Okay, so I'm planning on playing the old switcharoo. I'm going to print some professional
looking barcodes with a Dyno LabelWriter 400. I know it'll work. The online sales rep basically told me it would.

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Matt: Will the LabelWriter 400 print barcodes?
Lucy Chan: LabelWriter printers can print Code 39, Code 128, Codabar, UPC A/E, EAN 8/13/128, ITF-14 and Interleaved 2 of 5 barcodes.
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Matt: What type of barcode is on typical retail items?
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Lucy Chan: UPC barcodes are used in retail stores for sales checkout; inventory, etc.
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So, Any ideas?

get the barcodes all ready to be printed..(dont ask me on that one) and then print them off on some sticker paper, cut, yer done!

Essentially.

UPC bar codes are both human and machine readable. The bars tell the machine the same number as is printed underneath. That way, if the scanner isn't working the cashier can just type in the code.

If you want to wind up with a valid bar code you'll have to copy another item in that store. All you need to do is write down the numbers below the bar code, enter those into your label making software, and go nuts.

What kind of items should I try this out on? It would have to be something a cashier would just scan and throw into the bag.

okay, so swim has done this forever! @ wally world. kinda pick out the old cashiers that dont know about electronics. you could like try this combination the cd-r's or dvd-r's, and a cd burner or cd writer. something like that. it works. first time I did it I didnt even know, i even asked an employee to verify the price a young one too. it was a external cd burner which had cost 100 dollars, and it was at 5 dollars with the barcode. she didnt even look that the barcode was taped on with clear tape. lol

CD burners and writers are the same thing. Other than that you're on the right track.

I know, looking suspicious is my main concern.

One thing :

You have to make SURE the original barcode is blacked out/completely occulted.

The alarms at the stores carry the exact same lenses as the checkers but hidden.

If it reads "123456", it will allow "123456" to pass thru the gate.

If it reads "123456" and then, because it's more powerful, the gate reads "123457", you're in trouble.

WRONG.

Alarms are RFID and the like. The RFID tags are deactivated when the items are scanned. Otherwise, covering up the upc and walking out would save you every time. lrn2science.

best things to try on I would have to say would be flash cards/drives. Small technology things. If theyre behind glass just ask to see and slip the barcode onto it or something

Yeah right, snickers bars that you put in your pocket at the supermarket are RFID'ed...

Coke cans are RFID'ed too ! At least i guess that's why it ... sets the alarm off...

Oh, and i guess 15 years ago when alarms for supermarkets were just beginning with the "gates" thing, RFID was what set the alarms off, even tho it wasn't invented !

lrn2stfu.

wrong again, cokes and snickers do not set off alarms, only the more expensive items/alcohol that do have a RFID

Wanna try your luck ?

He speaks the truth , Cokes and Snickers and snacks dont set off the alarm , well over here in TESCOs and such they dont..

Only the alcohol and electronics set off the alarms here.
Ive stolen shit with barcodes on them before and nothing happened.

So if you just steal an item without putting a fake barcode on it, the alarm WONT go off???

God damn it you guys are fucking retards, the ink isn't magic on barcodes.

And FaZ the only booze that sets the alarms off are the ones with those big tags on them and they're easy to take off. And if you're getting a pack of beer and not individual ones then check for tags.

Previously I've done this for many weeks in various stores just for my grocery shopping where I take bags from a previous visit, bag up shit, throw in cart and then walk out.

I started typing then was actually at a loss of words, so all I'm going to say is this. If you think that barcodes actually set off alarms, then you have absolutely no right even being in BI.

I am old and experienced enough to guarantee cokes and candys DO set off alarms.

They did in the 80's and 90's and still do today.

You're just a bunch of fucking idiots. Stealing from a walmart with level zero security doesn't mean you're cleaver, it means you're a dumb small fry.

I have been involved or at the core of theft operations that far exceed the capacities and skill of the knowitall-donothing-smart-asses above.

You'll be allowed to criticize and comment after having participated in operations that net an average of 200.000$ for a 4-man team.

It pissed me off to no end to see such brats whine and brag about "their knowledge" (gained from youtube) when in fact they don't know jack shit; most of them are too scared to smuggle a bar of candy out of a mom&pop store and would piss their pants even thinking about jamming a REAL phone alarm.

This kind of "oh i know how it goes" shit is always the FIRST to shake and cry when confronted by the cops and the FIRST to shit their pants and rat everyone out.

I wish i had you fuckers in line right now so i could beat the living crap out of you.

I had quoted your entire first post and yelled "story time!" but then I saw
in response to
Alarms really are RFID based. Not upc based. The RFID deactivator really is used when they scan the items for checkout.

My example would work if it was barcodes as some retard suggested, and not radio devices. If you don't believe me I invite you to find something, preferably a spider wrap thing, and walk out with it (covering the upc to be safe!). The alarm will go off. Snickers bars are never rfid'ed. Thats why they will never set the alarms off. And just because they didn't have the RFID standard didn't mean that they can't use similar radio-based antitheft devices.


And all I can say is: WTF. You can't pull 200K if you can't pass basic reading comprehension. You can't intercept/mimic phone based alarms if you can't understand how the most basic security devices work.

I'd end "Lrn2Read" but thats sorta like yelling at a deaf man now, ain't it.

i don't generally come to bad ideas. mainly because it reeks of stupid.

if any of you entertained for one second the notion that ink barcodes will set off alarm, you really ought to be sterilized. that is without a doubt the stupidest thing i have ever heard as regards to criminal activities.

snickers bars have never - i repeat, NEVER - at any time in the history of the universe set off alarms. EVER. PERIOD. thats fucking ridiculous. i'm not talking at eldorhan, because if he wasn't trolling, he wouldn't be intelligent enough to use a computer. the rest of you. HOLY FUCK.

i remember why i stopped coming to BI.

No one here has ever stole a pack of gum or some shit?? You put the gum in your pocket when no one is looking (just look over your sholder once or twice) and leave the store. No alarm goes off whatsoever. But it has a UPC (barcode)!!1 No shit, every god damned item the store sells has a barcode. A barcode serves one fucking purpose: to make the asshole behind the counter's life easier. 100% truth. The teenage guy working the counter can have all your shit scanned and put in the cart in under 2 minutes. But if he had to do it by hand... So yes, all a barcode does is get scanned and the computer reads the number (so your lazy ass doesn't have to type it in one by one) and it finds that number in the data base and adds the price of that item to your receipt. Wow. Real high tech shit guys.

So that's how UPC's work huh? Ok...so what the fuck is this RFID thing everyone is going on about? That's a security tag. It's called a loss prevention device. They are a bit costly since you must buy them (unlike UPC's which come on the item as it arrives to your store) so generally, the store only places them on higher value items. These would be electronics and alcohol to prevent someone from stealing a case since they can get in legal trouble for it. Think about that. If they went around putting an RFID tag on a pack of 25 cent gum they would be losing money since the tags cost about 15 cents a piece. They can easily afford to put them on higher up goods such as CD's since they are actually SAVING money by making it that much harder for someone to steal. Now how do people get caught by these? They are Radio Frequency Identification Devices, that means that the information is transmitted via radio frequency. The RFID reader at the counter deactivates that frequency (which is very low or they would be setting the gate RFID reader off from their shelves). The one at the door would pick up this frequency from a very short distance, so that's why they are places close together and if the door is pretty big they have about 3-4 of them to make damn sure they catch you. And that about wraps it up.

Eldorhan, robbing a store through power of firearms and will, has nothing to compare to petty barcode switching so I don't know why you brought that up. So it's no wonder you have no clue as to what the fuck your talking about.

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God damn this is typical BI... What seems to be the start of an interesting thread quickly degenerates into the stupidity that we now know as BI.

You've never stole anything from a store let alone taken part in any other form of theft, and stealing from your mummy's purse doesn't count.

....Yep you're full of shit, so shut da fuck up nigger.

OMG LMFAO ROFLBBQSAUCE

Are you serious or are you fucking trolling?! Thats just the stupidest shit I have ever heard man.

learn2research!!

Guess

called it

You ruin all our fun.

can this dyno labelwriter 400 print barcodes on sticker paper so they could be put on the package like a sticker.

also....what site is it that sells these dyno barcode machines. i found a site that sell dymo. but the site looked sketchy and im sure it was a knockoff.

Just use a printer and glossy sticker paper.

Wow! I posted the thread well over a year ago. I've successfully implemented this scheme a LONG time ago. It works great but I did it without purchasing that expensive ass label printer. I just dl'd BarcodeMagic, purchased some 1 inch inkjet lables from OfficeMax and copied the barcodes into MS Office and printed them out. It works great. Especially at smaller stores where the employees just don't give a shit.

Actual piece of useful information:

At Target, when the original bar code is damaged or gone, someone with a portable printer (usually fitting room) can print up a new one that honestly looks ghetto-fied. The label printer mentioned earlier could probably print it, I will try and grab a picture next time I see one of these.

To get teh number (called a DPCI at target, stands for department, class, item) a team member has to find the same item elsewhere and scan the bar code of it with the PDA or look on the price label on the shelf for the DPCI. (doing this for more than 2 items is a shit job) Then a portable printer is found and the new bar code is printed. Its about an inch by 1.25 inches in size and has a bar code readable only by the checkouts and the DPCI number below it.

The DPCI is different from the UPC. Most other stores (Wal Mart, etc.) will have a similar system

good idea talking to the online rep, i wouldent have thought of that gl with ur plan