SWIM got into a fight with his step-dad. Words were exchanged, then it ended with SWIM saying" Youd understand if you pull your head out of your ass" Well, that didnt sit too well with SWIM's step dad. It ended up with SWIM being slammed against a cupboard, while also simultaneously breaking a cabinet door. Then down against a counter top being held down and choked to where it was difficult breathing. Although he knows he shouldnt have said that, is what SWIM's stepfather did justified or not?

Not really. If SWIM's stepfather loses his temper to that extent, he should get help, whether or not it's child abuse - that just compounds the problem.

Not at all. Maybe one act of violence is excusable- but going on to more after breaking a door is definitely not.

How old is swim?

If it were your father, then hell yes. Your stepfather? Cut off his balls.

I would call that "attempted murder," personally.

Either turn him in or have him whacked.

quote:Originally posted by JoePedo:

I would call that "attempted murder," personally.

Either turn him in or have him whacked.

If he can manhandle the OP like that, he would have no problem escalating "attempted murder" into murder. Youd make a damn good lawyer, asshole.

At any rate, it was no justified in the least. Neither was your backtalk.

That's a little over the top. And you should watch your words.

If all SWIM did was mouth off then yes it was over the top but unless SWIM is under the age of 16 or so it really isn't child abuse , more likely ABH/GBH.

quote:Originally posted by ArgonPlasma2000:

If he can manhandle the OP like that, he would have no problem escalating "attempted murder" into murder. Youd make a damn good lawyer, asshole.

Yeah, well... I ain't claiming that I seek to represent the man as an attorney, nor do I currently wish to act to represent myself as qualified to do so...

...just sayin' that I, as a private citizen, would consider breaking wooden architecture with my brainpan, followed by strangulation, to be a reasonable facimile of "attempted murder" when trying to deduce what might be considered "reasonable force" - and I, personally, would.

If someone wants advice as to whether they, themselves, should - by all means, consult with an attorney... which, as you were so kind to note, I am not.

You need proof such as bruising

Hitting children is never justified. You have no recourse, he has no fear of being retaliated against. If I were you, I would blackmail him. Like, a full weeks pay or more. Remind him that it will be much more costly for him to go to court. In America, what your stepfather has done constitutes assault, and would even if you were an adult.

Step fathers should never physically harm a step child.

Its just not on.

To add to that, the actions the step father took are unacceptable even as a father if all that sparked it off was an argument.

Chocking someone is only one off killing them.

Is the guy an alcoholic or something?

Doe's SWIM have contact with his birth father?

Because if he gives a shit its likely he'll want to kill him.

I was in a similar situation, which was ended with me breaking cunts jaw.

SWIM's father is dead. SWIM didnt retaliate because he didnt want to escalate any more. SWIM cant take him to court because that is his houses only source of income SWIM's mother is out of a job and is searching for one right now. SWIM's step father is not an alcoholic or anything like that. SWIM knows he shouldnt of said that, but SWIM says it was more of a test then anything, because SWIM's step brother says the same things, or even ones that are worse, but never has he laid a hand on SWIM's step brother. And as SWIM predicted, it would be much worse for him. This isnt the first time something like this has happened to SWIM though.

I'm not a father, but I think that is completely out of line, especially as a step-father. As a parent in my opinion, you have to expect to be told some bad things once in a while and I do agree in punishment but not that kind of punishment. Especially as a step-father, doesnt he know that it is very hard for a kid to accept someone as their father who is not actually their real father? I think thats out of line completely.

EDIT- Based on your response, if you have contact with your real father or some adult you trust, you should honestly tell him. In my opinion, this guy deserves to have his ass kicked.

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Close to the same happened to me, ages ago. Was about when I was 14, or so.

I was slammed into a wall repeatedly by my Dad, so hard that I had bruise marks on my back from the wall, and on my neck and shoulder from his fingers. I pushed him on the ground, and he got up and took a few swings at me, which I ducked and sidestepped. All this while swearing and yelling repeatedly at me. It ended when my sister stepped in the middle, crying.

Subsequently, I ran out of the house, and didn't talk to him for a year and a half after that. Didn't seem him for two and a half years. The first time I talked to him after that, he was on the edge of tears, and told me how much he was sorry and how he realizes that one night I lost all respect for one of the men I respected most in my life.

Nowadays, he refuses to yell or swear at anyone. He drinks half as much as he used to. I didn't have to fight him back, or call the police or anything. He learned by realizing that one stupid night nearly lost him his son.

So if your step dad has any respect for you, it's not too hard to make him realize what a brash situation that was.

You deserve it, just for using SWIM 5 times in a single paragraph. It really doesnt make you cool.

quote:Originally posted by Zykaz:

So if your step dad has any respect for you, it's not too hard to make him realize what a brash situation that was.

Haha, he has no respect for me. He believes that he went easy on me and I didnt get what I deserved.

quote:never has he laid a hand on SWIM's step brother.

Typical...asshole stepdads tend to treat their biological children far better than stepkids.

quote:Originally posted by Ali G in da house:

Haha, he has no respect for me. He believes that he went easy on me and I didnt get what I deserved.

Where did SWIM go ?

But seriously, just watch your step around him, avoid problems at all cost.

There is nothing you can do, and of course he over reacted, but you really dont need us to tell you that.

Are you looking for advice on what to do next or what? What was the real reason you posted this here? Just looking for support?

Not meaning to sound like an asshole, but you have to look rationally at your situation, and be honest with us if you want real support.

I bet you-er, your friend- doesn't tell his stepdad to pull his head out of his ass again... kids are too much of pansies these days....unless you're really hurt, he didnt go too far...

quote:Originally posted by chickenpoop:

I bet you-er, your friend- doesn't tell his stepdad to pull his head out of his ass again... kids are too much of pansies these days....unless you're really hurt, he didnt go too far...

Don't bitch when he kills his dad then.

OH wait, you claim some BS difference. It's okay fof the parent to threaten to kill their child, or even do it, but it's wrong for a child to be preemptive on that bastard/bitch's ass.

EDIT: OP, Wait for him to attack again. Kick his ass, if possible or if not get a few friends to fuck him up. Fuck the Family and all the Moralist BS it stands for

quote:Originally posted by streetjusticeforall:

Are you looking for advice on what to do next or what? What was the real reason you posted this here? Just looking for support?

Not meaning to sound like an asshole, but you have to look rationally at your situation, and be honest with us if you want real support.

I dont know why I posted this honestly, Im not looking for sympathy or anything, I just felt an urge to post it, maybe to vent a little. And be honest with you, what would you like me to tell you, Im all ears.

^^^You fucking ass, since when am I supposed to be a quiet submissive fuck because I happen to be younger than you?

I for one have never thought it made sense that your parents fucking own you. If you come down to it, its biological lottery, which is basically the same thing as divine right with different wording. What fucking practical excuse is there for anyone under 18 being a fucking tool? What, are we too "weak-minded"? Like women, black people, mexicans, etc, were? Until their respective civil rights movements got them out of that status. I know young people who are way more intelligent and way more strong-willed than adults. I've seen people who are supposedly self-reliant bitch themselves out for what equates for fucking money and toys. The concept of "children being quiet and obedient to their elders" is such incredible bullshit.

Strike back at those who attempt to demean you. You are not a second class human, you're fucking equal if not superior to them. Demand respect and do NOT settle for anything less.

My step dad tried that once when I was fourteen. I kicked the shit out of him with a peice of wood and choked him out on the kitchen floor. He never tried it again. Fucking faggot...