Right now, I have 2 girls trying to commit suicide because of me. And I'm really worried. One may be doing so as we speak. The other I have stopped from doing so because I said I would kill myself if she did, and she is in love with me but we're not together, which is why she wants to do this. But she won't stop trying to get me to promise not to do so, and it's really worrying me. The other girl, the one who I'm not sure of what she's doing right now, wants to because I broke up with her, because it's been taking all my willpower not to kill her. I know that sounds bad, but it's a problem of mine. Everyone I am close to, I have the desire to kill. In fact, I almost put an axe through my best friend's chest the other day. And I do love this girl, but I couldn't stand it if I killed her at some point, so I'm just staying away from her completely. So, any help? Please Totse, I need some help right now.

phone-911-let the pros deal with it

One girl will kill herself if I tell the authorities, and it won't stop the other...besides, I don't know if she is, and if I call in a false alarm, they'll stop trusting me, which is bad if i have proof and have to call again.

quote:Originally posted by neophoenix:

Everyone I am close to, I have the desire to kill. In fact, I almost put an axe through my best friend's chest the other day. And I do love this girl, but I couldn't stand it if I killed her at some point, so I'm just staying away from her completely. So, any help? Please Totse, I need some help right now.

You're obviously fucking weird, tell them about your "desire" and maybe they'll realize they're better off without you.

Stop being crazy/dating crazy chicks.

Problem solved.

quote:Originally posted by Schmazz:

Stop being crazy/dating crazy chicks.

Problem solved.



Easier said than done. RLY.

-F☺rd

What the fuck, kid, okay:

1. There just trying to get your attention, Neither of them are going to kill themselves over a boy not likeing them.. That would be rediculous. And if so, they probubly have a mental problem.

2. You have a mental problem. You broke up with a girl because you had a constant urge to kill her. Tell her about it if your worried about her. She probubly thinks SHE did something wrong, when infact it was really.. your fault

3. Troll

4. Profit

Look, if they are that fucked up, it ain't your problem. Really.

Tell the school counselor, or a teacher, or someone in authority, and move on with your life. Generally people do this as a guilt trip to try and get someone to do something for them, so they aren't serious, but best not to risk it.

Oh, and stop associating with Emo's if you can't handle the crap that goes along with them.....

You're one fucked up motherfucker

I suggest that you get your little bottom in your car and drive to get help from a professional

1. I know I'm fucked up.

2. I can't drive yet.

3. Professionals have never helped me before, what makes you think they'll start now?

4. They would kill themselves. We met in an insane asylum. They were there for attempted suicide.

5. I DID tell her about it. That didn't help. She knows it's my fault, but she says she "Can't live without me."

6. None of the above really helps. Maybe someone can provide some way to at least help me cope with this?

I'd appreciate it, thanks :P

NeoPhoenix

quote:Originally posted by Schmazz:

Stop being crazy/dating crazy chicks.

Problem solved.

Yeah, it really is easier said than done. Esp. because I'm crazy so I guess it attracts them? I dunno. Help...T.T

EDIT: To add this quote in and comment on it.

[This message has been edited by neophoenix (edited 03-30-2007).]

Truth is, no one's going to be able to really help you on this forum in one post. It would take a lot of time to get the bottom, and hopefully, vanquish your demons.

Psychologist, psychiatrists, shit you can even try some metaphysical master if that's what you're into. I know it's cliche, but if you have to WANT to change to change. You have to want to help yourself. Those "professionals" won't be able to do anything without you letting them, it's like hypnosis.

I'm assuming that you're in high school since you said you can't drive yet. You might hate this but, a lot of your crazy emotions are being stirred by the crazy shit that goes on in puberty. You're brain isn't completely formed yet. Not only that, but you still have a lot to learn.

I by no means am trying to downplay your issues. I hope you can find strength in knowing that there's shitload of other people who have SERIOUS, disturbing issues. People who can conquer them. It may be very rare, but it's possible.

The girls, I don't know what to tell you about them. Call their parents? Get them committed? Stay on the phone and feed their depression? I have no idea. Personally, I wouldn't deal with it. I guess I would to a point, but there's a point where you have to differentiate where your responsibility [for them] ends and where YOU MATTER more begins. All I have to say is YOU should be your number one priority. If you have to keep these girls from slicing their wrists at the expense of school, or work, or other relationships, you need to reanalyze what's important to you.

Telling you you're the reason they're going to kill themselves is fucking disgusting. You don't need people like this around you. If I were you, I wouldn't talk or see them. But that's at your discretion.

Good luck, man. I really think if you really wanted you could be successful in some type of therapy or spirituality. If that's not your thing, try reading. My goal is to be the best person I can be. I've curved some serious patterns of behavior and thinking with the help of therapy, meditation, my boyfriend, and books. I'm a testament that you have complete control over your life and anything you want, you can do.

It's all in your head.

quote:They were there for attempted suicide.

Great. Chances are they did it out of dramaticism keen of pubescent teen females. Knowing this habit, they will most likely fail yet again.

Ironic that people who suck at life are prone to fail suicide.

I think you need some tough love. You are an idiot of one of the highest caliber. You wanna put an axe through your friend? What kind of dumbass wants to kill a friend over some petty bullshit? Ohh, its the kind of dumbass that was never spanked as a child and told every night when he went to sleep that he was special and could do no wrong.

You really make me laugh you know. To think of the little spoiled bitch inside of your head that wants to kill anyone that pisses him off.

Stop being such a bitch. Stop crying when someone does something you dont like. Deal with it because its going to happen every day when you get out from under mommy's apron.

As for your suicidal friends, fuck them. Dramaticism excludes intelligence, and intelligence is something one needs in at least small quantities to kill themselves. Maybe a bit of luck as well. At any rate, that is their own ignorance to kill themselves over a loser like you.

At any rate, stop throwing temper tantrums and people wont hate you. Nobody likes a 2 year old for a friend, moron.

I hope you are still reading all this because its pointing out the cause of all of this shit. You have a temper tantrum and no self control and it manifests itself in your actions.

BTW, me being a total asshole has kept at least one person from suicide on these boards before, so its not like my flame is completely without merit.

MrMojo is right, it is all in your head. In your head is that spoiled bitch that likes to throw things when he doesnt get his way. The fact that you post shows me you want to change this. When you feel like losing it, do this:

Stop thinking.

Close your eyes.

Take some breaths concentrating on a giant white wall in fron of you.

Lose your anger.

Keep focusing on the wall until you are calm.

Now that you are calm, assess the situation logically. Why were you mad? What can you do to diplomatically reslove the situation? Should you just walk away?

I used to be like you, except without the murderous rampage part. I used to beat the shit out of my brother and sister when they pissed me off. I then got int the meditation and parapsycology thing and it evened me out very nicely.



quote:I've curved some serious patterns

Its "curbed".

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Thank you a lot MrMojoRisin. ^_^ That helps a lot. I've been working with a therapist since December, but I can do better. Thank you again. I felt better just reading your post. ^_^

As for the post above this one, I don't desire to kill out of anger, I was never EVER spoiled as a child, and I am not a fucking 2 year old. I grew up dirt fucking poor and am barely better than that right now. My parents were never around long enough to spoil me, and I never got my way. In fact, I never got anything but what I needed as a child, and I had to deal with my entire families problems without saying a fucking word or I got yelled at. That's part of my problem right now, I was never able to show other people how I feel, because I was taught I have to grow up to be strong enough to take care of myself as well as everyone around me. So shut your fucking mouth you don't fucking know anything. Plus, I'm not trying to commit suicide.

Next, I can't even remember the last time I was mad. I don't desire to kill because I get mad. In fact, when I feel that way, I'm very calm, and plan it out. I don't think my friend has ever made me mad ever. So once again, Shut the fuck up.

-Neco ater nihil



NeoPhoenix

There is a 0.5% chance of them succeeding.

I suggest you take it.

One does not wish to murder because they feel like petting a kitten, dumbass. They do it from anger, fear, or stupidity.

You are not angry, and obviously not fearful lest you would not be in such a situation. The only other alternative is stupidity, which would explain your inability to pick out any useful information in my post.

So you are a farm animal whos destiny is to toil in the field?

But I dont think so. I feel you dont want to change. You grew up dirt poor? Could it be deep-seated jealousy?

After reading your post again, it really sounds like my life growing up except I did get my way and wasnt too poor until I was around 10. Yay for Japan for dumping cheap shit on our shores.

Still, there is much animus in what you say. Difficulty to empathize could very well be a symptom of the root cause. I know more than I let on through experience.

So, tell us about this axe and friend situation. What happened? What triggered it? What were you thinking? Thing slike this go a long way to finding the problem.

I wasn't thinking anything. We were chopping down trees in his backyard. We were done and he sat down in his driveway with another friend of mine. I still had the axe (it was actually a dull splitting maul, but it worked) and I was standing there in his driveway talking to him, and randomly felt the desire to put the axe as far through his breastbone as I could, as well as my other friend. I found myself raising the axe to do so, several times, and it took all my willpower to walk away so I didn't.

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quote:Originally posted by neophoenix:

I wasn't thinking anything. We were chopping down trees in his backyard. We were done and he sat down in his driveway with another friend of mine. I still had the axe (it was actually a dull splitting maul, but it worked) and I was standing there in his driveway talking to him, and randomly felt the desire to put the axe as far through his breastbone as I could, as well as my other friend. I found myself raising the axe to do so, several times, and it took all my willpower to walk away so I didn't.

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Sound a bit like OCD!

Yeah I've had expierience :S

Obviously you had this erge to kill him yet you find it 'wrong' or you just don't want to (for whatever reason) do so.

It's as if one side of you is saying "FUCKING DO IT!" and another is saying "WTF? You lunitic!"

If it's OCD then just tell yourself that it's just obssesive thoughts and nothing more!

Hope that helps some how

GOOD LUCK!

quote:Originally posted by neophoenix:

I wasn't thinking anything. We were chopping down trees in his backyard. We were done and he sat down in his driveway with another friend of mine. I still had the axe (it was actually a dull splitting maul, but it worked) and I was standing there in his driveway talking to him, and randomly felt the desire to put the axe as far through his breastbone as I could, as well as my other friend. I found myself raising the axe to do so, several times, and it took all my willpower to walk away so I didn't.

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Talk to your therapist about pharmaceutical intervention... seriously. Standard SSRI treatment of OCD would probably do you wonders.

Frankly, it's much better to get mental health care on the outside than in a prison... 'n if you're going to prison, it's much better to be there for something you *chose* to do, rather than a random homicidal compulsion. Not to mention, the whole "shit, I can't believe I axe-murdered my friend" for the rest of your life - even if you're a kidiot now (and honestly, for a psycho axe-murderer, you sound like you've got your head screwed on better than a lot of people) - it'll eventually take its toll.

Now... teh gurlz...

Take a deep breath. Accept that whether or not they kill themselves is their own goddamn problem. Learn to let go.

From there... if you wanna be friends, if you wanna hang out, if ya wanna be fuckbuddies on tuesdays, but not on thursdays - whatever, man. Go for it.

You control what you do (well, except the compulsive axe-murdering, apparently). What they do is their problem, not yours.

ROTFLMAO, this is awesome! Their damned if you do and their damned if you don't!

But seriously, you should really consider calling the local sheriff and explaining the whole situation at least. If you call 911 they will think it is a prank call or they will just get pissed off if nothing was happening at that moment. However, if you call the sheriff they will most likely respond in some helpful way, even if it is just sending in a social worker.

You're a fucking nut case.

I'm already on meds for OCD, and I'm going to try accepting that their fate is their own to decide and I really can't do anything about it. Thank you. ^_^

I'll probably go get my meds assessed to see if it can deal with my OCD better.

If I explain this all to the sheriff, or 911, or whatever, ya know what they're gonna say?

quote:Originally posted by woopsueypigs77:

You're a fucking nut case.

Yeah. They'll probably arrest me or something. So for now I'll just ignore and see what happens. I'll post an update if it come about.

Okay. Do NOT let yourself walk away from this with anything less than NO DESIRE AT ALL to hear ANYTHING about these girls ever again. Imagine what you'd feel like if you just said "well, its up to them now" and they ended up killing themselves.

You can talk to your ex. She obviously understood you on some level (assuming the relationship wasn't purely physical, which I wouldn't think it is) and she'll understand you now. Tell her about your problem and how you need to be alone. Tell her that you dont' want to not be with her, but that you can't now because of whats going on, and tell her that she needs to understand that for your sake. As for the other girl, I would just say you lie your ass off and hope she gets more stable. Or, tell her that you need to be alone because of whats going on with you, but you care about her and will be there for her etc.

Don't give up on this dude. I would say that you can't, once you get involved. And to ArgonPlasma, unless you have some compelling ass evidence that this guy is trolling, shut the fuck up. Suicide and mental disorders are NOTHING to be mocked.

Don't worry about it. 9.9999999/10 girls will do this for attention. If I were you I wouldn't believe the "I'm just going to kill myself and end it all if you don't go out with me" line unless the girl has a history of depression, other mental issues, abusive family/broken home, or anything else that would warrant killing ones self.

But hey, thats just me...

Edit: Actually just do this, to solve your problem... Next time you hear them say anything about commiting suicide because of you, just hand them a syringe full of air and tell them to get to work... They will either be like "WTF NO!!!!"(Problem solved) or start crying and get away from you(Problem solved). Both endings will reveal that they were being dramatic. No chance that they would actually do it(miracles do happen though).

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