I wrote this a while back and it was quite a popular thread. It however, got 'eaten' by one of totse's down time glitches. Several of you expressed dismay at the time and so having just discovered I did indeed keep a copy of the original post , I thought i'd repost.

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I find it funny how you teach us more than you do your kids (points to alcohol thread). It makes for a nice bedtime story.

What I wish had've happened for my first time would have been more care for me. My boyfriend at the time and I were very much in love (or lust, whatever), but it was sort of a 'struggle to get it in' then pump away sort of thing. Great that he enjoyed it and all, but more attention on me and how I liked it would have been nice.

Plus I think he had it in his head that if he kept fucking away I'd eventually orgasm. NO! Just no. He went for far too long, and it just made the whole pain thing worse.

Also, no real cuddling afterwards. Maybe a cuddle or two then he got up to play a computer game.

Man, that guy was a bit of a douche.

My first time was terrible. I didn't have the heart to plough her groin with all my might and as such barely penetrated that tight tight candy. If I could go back and do it again, this time I'd rip her sides open. That is all.

I remember this thread. Good post.

Yep. Don't even slide your hand down her pants unless you can feel her desire through her clothes first.

You can break her hymen with your fingers instead of your cock and give her an awesome orgasm if you pay attention to how she is responding. That's how I lost mine. It totally unplanned and unexpected, completely pain free, and was my first orgasm ever.

The times we tried to plan it...never worked.

So do you want to go on top her fist time or let her go on top? It seems like you would want her on top so she can control the speed and all that shit. Advice?

Yeah, and what ketch said...

"What i would like is every woman who reads this to add her 'what worked for me' and her own 'what i wish he had done!' . Any good tips from the men as to what seemed to work would also be great."

lol

Excellent post, 'Ketch.

"BTW for the goths among us...'clean' means NO nail varnish as this can cause a toxic shock!"

cripes! That's scary I used to masterbate with nail varnish on all the time!!! Luckily I don't bother wearing nail varnish.... too much hassle touching up the chips every time you plan on leaving the house lol.

My first time was a bit crap.... there wasn't really any foreplay or anything.... but that was more my fault than his I was like "Just hurry up and fuck me my Mum will be home in half an hour!" In actual fact she was home in 20 mins.... so I sent him to the bathroom to finish himself off while I got dressed lmao. But yeah it didn't hurt AT ALL even though he had a pretty huge cock because I'd been wanking with various things since I was about 12. So my advice would be buy your girlfriend a dildo so she can fuck herself first and get the pain and blood (if there is any) bit out of the way before you get in bed with her. Note I say dildo not vibrator.... if you go and buy her a rampant rabbit or something then the chances are sex with you will be a disappointment after that.... so yeah something as big as a cock but not so fancy that she'll enjoy it too much.
Oh and this is probably a bit obvious but I'll say it anyway.... if you're into anything kinky or you want to shove a finger up her ass or anything then save that for after you've already done it a couple of times.

I wish everyone I have ever or ever will have sex with would read this thread.

Needless to day my first time was shit. But I think having at least one awkward unsatisfying sex experience is sort of a right of passage into the sex world.

I support this thread being stickied.

Can't wait to fucking debrain my new virgin girlfriend and this showed me how to go about it best.

Should her panties/thongs be visibly wet? Like soaking through or is that stuff moisture-wicking or whatever?

For favourite yes but not all women produce copious amounts of fluid so you may have to go by other signs.

"ooOOOMMMG FUCK ME NOW!!" is usually a fairly safe sign.

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This thread is about first time sex, not first time smoking. Sorry.

"She must be soaking" is SO true; takes away most of the pain (or she'll be so into it she doesn't really care) and it can't be that comfortable for the guy either...

I wanted to do this, trouble was with the means of getting a dildo; difficult while I, and all 'trusted' friends were under 18

what are you doing back? isnt your ma stalking totse?

I dont remember where i found this but it's a really good guide. Here's part 1:



In order to make a girl go crazy using your mouth, this is what I recommend:

Remember every girl is different, so you may wish to vary the style, speed, and force with which you perform oral upon her. These are just some general pointers that work for *most* women, not all. And remember, it's all about the WAY you do what you do. Be sexy about it. Be into it, be passionate, and above all, be receptive to her body language and what she asks you to do and responds to.

Start by breathing over her pussy, and her thighs. Kiss her inner thighs softly at first, maybe lick on them and suck on them in different places. Run your tongue along them towards her pussy, but don't touch it. Kiss above her pussy (especially if she's shaved) and lick and tease the area above her clitoris. Make sure your mouth and tongue are really wet.

When you've teased her to the point where she's squirming and moaning a little, or telling you to start licking the pussy itself, then it's time to move your head right between her legs, and position your lips and tongue directly over her clitoris (if she hasn't already pushed your head down there). At first lick the clitoris softly (make sure your mouth is wet) and slowly, not much force, just teasingly, delicately. Kiss it. Kiss it passionately, the way you kiss her mouth. Caress it with your lips and tongue. Don't forget to interject kissing and licking her inner thighs and licking her labia as a variation. Lick her hole, too. Slip your tongue into her hole. If she likes that, slide your tongue in and out of her hole, like it's a cock. Do that forcefully, but don't hurt her. Lick her ass, if you can get to it. For that, licking from behind is the best, when she's on all fours. Lick around her ass, around the rim, and then slide your tongue inside (if you dare!). Don't do


it too hard, and make sure you don't force it in. Just teasingly, gently, letting her know you love her body and want to pleasure her in every way. One thing girls usually love is when you lick from the bottom of their asshole right up to the top of their clit in one long, luscious lick. You can do that a few times.

If she reacts to a certain thing, repeat it. Now for the serious stuff: When she starts to enjoy it, begin a rhythm of licking her. Lick her whichever way she likes the best (ASK HER!) or whichever makes her moan the loudest. And REPEAT it. Over and over, in a rhythmic motion. Make your neck work, put your whole head movement into it. It should be a sweeping, repeating, constant motion, with your tongue and lips either caressing or encircling, swirling and stimulating her clit over and over until she starts to shudder.

As she enjoys it more, you can get a little harder. Some girls like it very hard (lots of pressure), and very fast (super fast), but most girls like it softer and more delicately. Kiss it as if its delicate. Lick it as if its delicate, don't press your face in too hard once you're in the rhythmic motion. You should try and tease her clitty to orgasm, not force it to orgasm.

Some girls, when they're coming, like a variation. When she starts coming, and starts to throb, DON'T STOP - but some girls like you to make it harder (or softer) at the point of orgasm), or to suck or nibble on it a little bit. Very few girls like you to just leave it alone. Most of them, though, like for you to JUSTKEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING until they're done coming. Then, once they've collapsed and are exhausted, either carry on going, starting from scratch (to make them come again), or slide up and kiss them on the lips, letting them taste their love juices from your mouth. Then it's time to either receive oral, make love, or curl up and go to sleep.

I hope this works and I hope she loves it. For more methodological detail, just ask about which part, specifically, you need help with.


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FINGERING HER CLITTY – soft and slow

While it may be fun to slide your fingers in and finger inside her pussy, I'll concentrate first of all on playing with her clitty. Most girls, when they masturbate, concentrate on the clitoris, which is actually not inside the pussy at all, it is above the entrance.

In case you don't know, when the pubic hair gives way to the beginnings of the pussy slit itself, you are right above the clitoris. It is less than half an inch below that point at the very top of the pussy, and it is often hidden behind folds of pussy meat and protective layers – at the very very top of the pussy, on the outside.

It is between the two pussy lips, but at the top of them, where they meet. You will know when you find it because it sticks out a little from the rest of the pussy, and there is nothing above it but pubic hair (or shaved, sexy girlie skin, if she shaves down there).

Now, the way lots of girls like to be fingered to orgasm is slow, soft, and very very gently. First, make sure it's nice and wet (licking and kissing it is always a great idea – if you want to know how to do that, ask me for oral advice), by using lube or even better – wetting your fingers with your mouth. If she's really wet, you might even want to dip your fingers gently into her hole, and get them wet like that, before placing them over the clitty.

If she's not wet, don't start playing with the clitty before you've touched her and kissed her in other places: kiss her lips, bite and nibble on her neck, suck her earlobes and nipples, kiss her tummy, put your tongue in her ear, run your hands up and down her back, kiss her inner thighs, her legs, suck her toes, kiss her ass: whatever it takes to get her wet, whatever she likes. You can talk dirty to her too, and whisper right into her ear – lots of girls find that a big turn-on.

When she's ready, place one or two fingers (your first and middle finger, usually) over her clitty, when it's wet and slippery, and start to gently rub and tease. Rub it slowly from side to side, or up and down. Rub around it, too. Not hard. In fact, you might not want to have too much contact between your fingers and her pussy. Try to be as light and delicate as you can, just tease it and play with it as if it were the delicate petals of a flower.

You can vary the motion, firmness of your touch, and the speed with which you touch her, but at the end of it, you should be turning her on and you should feel it swelling and expanding. If it's getting less wet, spit on your hand or use her pussy juice or more lube and keep it REALLY wet.

Once she's getting really into it, find a regular motion that she likes, and repeat it again and again. Not necessarily harder or faster (unless that works), but perhaps more firmly, more repetitive. Circular motions usually work well. Sucking her nipple or kissing her while you're doing it often helps.

When she's squirming and getting into it, just keep doing what you're doing, continue with the motion, and before long, she should start throbbing (you'll feel it pulsing) and she'll gyrate and have a really powerful orgasm. This can take anything from one minute to thirty minutes, but it's usually between five and fifteen. Don't keep going after five minutes if she's not enjoying it at all. If she starts enjoying it less, vary it, because the idea is to BUILD the pressure and the pleasure. It's a very slow, gentle process.

If it doesn't work, don't worry, it doesn't work on every girl. Try the harder one or the squirting one (internal) and best of all, try licking her pussy to orgasm (write me again if you want that advice).

FINGERING HER CLITTY – harder

Some girls are hypersensitive and like it rough. With these girls, the above will work, and can often lead to more powerful orgasms, but there is a quicker, faster way. That way is fingering her clitoris (same place) much harder, pressing fairly hard down on it with your finger, and rubbing it from side to side.

This way, again, make sure it's really wet and she's horny, then find the clit with your finger (this works standing up really well) and start moving your finger from side to side while pressing on it. As she starts to enjoy it, do it harder and faster. After thirty seconds to two minutes, she'll start really enjoying it, and just keep going harder and faster. Make sure it's wet. Press even harder on the clit itself and keep rubbing from side to side, over and over, as fast as you can.

If this hurts at any time, or she says she doesn't like it, you should stop.

If it works, she'll have, like, a mini-orgasm, where she suddenly goes tense and peaks and cums, quickly, then comes down again. You can keep going and make her cum again. It's not hard. Keep doing it till she gets sore if you like. Some women can orgasm ten or more times like this. My girlfriend and I broke the record when she came over a hundred times this way in less than an hour. So as you can see, this is very very very productive if your girl is hypersensitive and you do it right.

If those two don't work, and she won't tell you how to do it (maybe ‘cause she doesn't know), you need to try the squirting orgasm. This is the BEST of the three and involves going inside. Are you ready? This could change your life and her life

Part 2:

MAKING HER SQUIRT

There are many ways to use your fingers to make a girl go crazy, and some of the best are to be found by simple exploration - try different things, different numbers of fingers, different parts of her pussy and ass, and be innovative and inventive. Some of the best fingering comes in conjunction with oral... but there is one, shining act which transcends all sexuality, and gives a woman - any woman - the best orgasm of her LIFE. If I am sharing this advice with you it's because I think you're a nice guy or girl. This is not the kind of knowledge which should be bestowed upon predators or misogynists. You should only know this and use this if you LOVE women.

Here goes:

Start by performing a little oral on her inner thighs, labia and clitty especially, to get her nice and wet. The rest of this (except for, perhaps, the very end) can be enhanced by continually sucking and licking the clitoris throughout the duration of the act - oral definitely increases the power and pleasure or the female ejaculating orgasm.

Now, take the hand that you write with, and take the two fingers closest to your thumb (your pointer/index finger and your middle finger) and make them wet with your mouth, with hers, or with her pussy juice (she should be glistening wet for this to work properly). MAKE SURE YOUR NAILS ARE TRIMMED AND NOT SHARP.

Slide those two fingers in, with the fingerprint part of the fingers facing up (nails down), slide them in firmly but slowly, as far as they will go without using too much pressure. If she is really tight you make need to start with one, and if there is a lot of wetness but resistance, you may need to tease and taste her pussy some more. Once you get those fingers in, tease her inner walls slowly with the pads of your fingers, and get her even more juicy. When you think that she is ready to have the orgasm of her life, you may begin:

Now you will maneuver your fingers to find her g-spot. Yes, it exists, and yes, every woman has one. Slide your fingers in about 2 inches, UP, and then BACK towards the front of the pussy (like you're going up behind her clitty). Her g-spot is actually a patch of her inner walls which is on the FRONT INNER WALL of her pussy, above the hole itself. So, in, up, and back towards the entrance. You should feel, on that wall, a very rough patch of skin – rougher than the rest of her smooth inner pussy. You've found it. Congratulations.

By making a beckoning motion with your two fingers (a come hither, bending fingers motion), you should be able to pull the fingerprint/pad part of the tips of your two fingers against that spot. Try it. Pull back against it with your two fingers and press a little. Tease it, stimulate it with your fingers. Make her feel good. She should be squirming and breathing very heavily by now.

As you start to rhythmically tap/press/pull your fingertips against the g-spot, she should start getting wetter. If you're doing it right, and she's comfortable with it, you'll start to hear squelching, sponge-like sounds. The g-spot is like a sponge, it contains a lot of liquid, and feels rough. Keep pressing your fingers against it, over and over, rhythmically, with the same kind of rhythm as if you were sliding your cock in and out of her pussy.

As she starts to get wetter, and enjoy it more, start doing it harder. The more she thrashes from side to side, the harder you do it. Eventually, you can replace the tapping/poking of the g-spot with an outright speed-sliding of those two fingers in and out of her hole. Do it faster and faster, maintain the rhythm, but increase the force. Even when you're slamming them straight in and out of her hole, try and maintain an upward, outward force with the fingertips, so you're still pressing up against that g-spot even as you're slamming her with your fingers with reckless abandon.

Through all of this, she should be squelching, squirming and OBVIOUSLY loving it. If she's not, you should stop. If she says it hurts (especially if she says it more than once, you might want to stop or at LEAST slow down or not do it so hard. Make sure she's always wet – not dry for any period of time.

Now here's the crucial part. When she gets close to ejaculation, she will say that she needs to pee. SHE DOES NOT NEED TO PEE. It's just a temporary sensation that will pass, but you have to make sure she knows about it beforehand, and you have to make sure she does not stop you, and you do not desist in your slamming. Hold her legs apart with the other hand, if you have to. You can even use your head or knees or whatever to hold her legs open, but make sure she stays relatively still (or she might get hurt on your fingers) and that you KEEP GOING. In fact, when she needs to pee, that's when you should start doing it harder, cause orgasm is around the corner.

10-50 seconds after the pee sensation begins, she will start to cum. When she does, DON'T STOP. Just do it harder and harder and harder, pressuring the g-spot upwards all the while. Now she should start to ejaculate. She'll scream, and her pussy will start shooting clear (transparent), odorless liquid all over the place. There could be a lot of it, it might soak you completely and soak the sheets and everything around her, so make sure you're prepared.

I guarantee you, if she's never had one before, the squirting orgasm will be the best orgasm of her life. In my experience, 97% of women are capable of having them, and in certain circumstances, I think it's more like 99.9%. If you want her to ejaculate in great volumes, have her drink lots of water before you do it, and stay well hydrated. Once she's finished squirting, SHE CAN SQUIRT AGAIN. Especially if you didn't do it too hard, and still got her to cum, you can usually start all over, and between one and ten minutes later, she'll be squirting again. Usually, you have to do it harder each time. My record is seven. The girl that squirted seven times in 45 minutes passed out for 6 hours afterwards (it's physically exhausting and dehydrating) so be careful if you try more than 2 at once.

Most girls pass out after a couple of them. This can make a girl fall in love and at the very least want to fuck your brains out, so use it wisely rather than to your advantage. Don't take advantage of people using this. If you do it wrong, or if she's on her period, she might bleed. That's usually okay, but just make sure you don't hurt her, and you stop if she's screaming with pain, rather than pleasure. You should always have a safe word with your partner, and you should always make sure she knows what you intend to do and that she's fine with it. Enjoy this, and I hope it works out for you; I hope it works out for HER, even more so. If it does… well, just wait and see. I'm jealous of women because of g-spot orgasms! There's NO male equivalent – it's just absolute ecstasy, nothing less. Remember there are at least fifty ways to make a woman cum (actually lots more) and at least five different types of orgasms so don't limit yourselves to this whether it works or not.

Once you're actually making love to her, it's in your hands... but I will tell you, try not to be nervous or do anything differently... the HARDER you are and the more into it you are, the less it will hurt her. Try to make sure you're at maximum hardness and that she's completely saking wet when you slide it into her...

Try to put some emotion in.

Losing virginity is a big deal for girls...The first time they've had a cock inside them, being that close to a person, having to allow what happens to happen....
If you feel for this girl (which I hope you bloody do!) tell her how much she means to you...Keep the kissing, stroking and eye contact going.

Sex for a guy is physical...Sex for a girl is emotional. Be nice and do it emotionally. You're already going slow so talk to her, stroke her, look into her eyes and tell her you love her (and be honest when you say it!)

Basically, make it memorable...If she's giving you the untouched, treat it with respect. And by untouched, I mean virginity.

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Wow, this has been a great thread. Got some things I'd like to try in the future.

Anyway, my first time was pretty...well to be honest it was pretty bad. We went for a walk in the back woods in this place in Maine, found a treehouse, and fucked there. It was spontaneous and unfulfilling. I feel really bad about that experience, but it wasn't her first time so I suppose it coulda been worse.

Just last week I took my ex-gf's (now we're best friends who hook up a lot) virginity- great experience for the both of us. I went nice and slow at first and I couldn't tell if she was in pain. We tried a few different positions, though our flexibility (or lack thereof) made our choices limited. We both finished at the same time, though she's usually very horny so I think she orgasmed a few times. She was nice and tight and hardly any blood.

I'm totally trying that g-spot thing. I've massaged it in the past, but I haven't made her squirt.

I've heard from a lot of people that a massage and at least half an hour of foreplay helps. Btw I think that thing smoky posted is from the female orgasm blackbook (somewhere on piratebay).