ANY FUCKING SENSE AT ALL???!!!111

Your mod just got back from a trip to the ATM , to find a strange girl sitting at the table talking to my eldest. She and he then went to the local shop together and then up into his bedroom (without a bio-hazard suit,so she gets full marks for bravery I guess).

He did of course omit to introduce her, having been brought up in a barn[/sarcasm].

So far nothing really unusual. I don't even bother learning the girls' names these days until they have been here several times.

I did ask him in passing if she was one of his girlfriends but he denied that and just labelled her as a 'mate'.

However, while they were upstairs youngest offsprung comes to me and tells me that this girl is only 14.

Not that that bothers me over much these days. Here in Norfolk....

But it seems that this girl had an older boyfriend last year with whom she was sexually involved.

She accused of him raping her!

I know this for a fact because the police came round to interview my lads. I just hadn't realised it was this girl.

After putting this boy through a fair imitation of hell, the charges were dropped as it was clear to all that the sex had infact been consensual etc (although personally I think its his own fault -a 23 year old sleeping with a 13 year old is asking for trouble even in Norfolk.)

AnD a girl with this track record my 18 year old son brings home and is alone with??!

Sometimes I find it really hard to resist the urge to SMACK HIM UPSIDE THE HEAD!

Come on, S&A, tell me that I am being too harsh, too prejudgemental and I should give this girl a chance etc.





[This message has been edited by jackketch (edited 03-18-2007).]

quote:Originally posted by jackketch:

[b]Come on, S&A, tell em that I am being too harsh, too prejudgemental and I should give this girl a chance etc.





Nope. She's got a proven record of being a psycho.

quote:Originally posted by jackketch:

[b]

Come on, S&A, tell em that I am being too harsh, too prejudgemental and I should give this girl a chance etc.

Just make sure your son knows all this. (He probably does.)

Not sure if you should care one way or another about giving the girl a chance unless they're actually in a relationship. It sounds like you might be jumping the gun a bit.

quote:Originally posted by oc6:

Just make sure your son knows all this. (He probably does.)

Not sure if you should care one way or another about giving the girl a chance unless they're actually in a relationship. It sounds like you might be jumping the gun a bit.

He does. I am perhaps a little paranoid, you know why.

quote:Originally posted by jackketch:

He does. I am perhaps a little paranoid, you know why.



Perhaps. Maybe mention it to him once...in passing.

quote:Originally posted by oc6:



Perhaps. Maybe mention it to him once...in passing.

in passing...with a lead pipe?

Well, i'd say you have reason to be worried ketch, there isnt a big difference maturity wise from 13 to 14, if i were you, i would make sure my son was very careful in this situation, theres nothing worse then a 14 year old claiming rape cause the guy dumped her. Revenge can be a bitch, and 14 year olds wont understand (nor care) about what happens to YOUR son, if she accuses him. If i were in your shoes, i would make sure that if he wants to fuck her, that when they DO break it off, that he does it without her feeling angry at him, cause 14 year old girls, really dont care whos life they fuck up. Hurt their feelings, they'll take your nuts.

quote:Originally posted by jackketch:

in passing...with a lead pipe?

*laughs *

If that is what goes for subtle in your home...by all means...

<3

quote:Originally posted by oc6:

*laughs *

If that is what goes for subtle in your home...by all means...

<3

I shall go take my anger out on the fillet steaks for the meal now.

*beats his meat *

(for those who are sad enough to wonder what the Ketch eats , its fillet steak sammichs in fresh baked ciabata with caramelised onions tonight).

[This message has been edited by jackketch (edited 03-18-2007).]

Norfolk isn't that bad. Look at Wales!

I'm also 18 and a dude in Norfolk but definately wouldn't date someone below the age of consent.

Maybe you should have a talk with him forbidding him to date girls under 16 not just because he could get in shit but also because it looks fucking weird.

I couldn't date someone that young, it would just be annoying with them loving pokemon or whatever and lolling when people say 'cheese'

Unleash the real-life-ban-hammer? :-D!

quote:Originally posted by jackketch:

[b]

I did ask him in passing if she was one of his girlfriends but he denied that and just labelled her as a 'mate'.

I know this for a fact because the police came round to interview my lads. I just hadn't realised it was this girl.





Didn't you say something a while back about being really proud of your son's for being people that all their friends trusted and could seek help from?

Last night I, after everyone had gone home and things were over, me and a female friend of mine sat up in my back room until two o'clock in the morning drinking Jack Daniels and talking.

She has a boyfriend, but never the less, just because two young people, of opposite genders, happen to be in the same room together, alone, for long periods of time, does not necesserily meant that they are in any way romantically (if the word can be applied in this context) "engaged".

I also spent thursday night in the bedroom of a very attractive girl (it's been a very social week), arriving home at twenty minutes past one in the morning. I am not "going out" with this girl, contrary to popular belief.

Basically all I'm saying is that you shouldn't jump to conclusions. Instead, maybe you should mention it in casual conversation, such as when he's eating his breakfast and your leaning over to get milk out of the fridge and if he denies it leave it there.

Quite how you can casually ask if he's screwing an underage girl is your's to figure out.

I wouldn't trust some dude to spend hours in a room with my girlfriend.

Quick question you need to consider: Is she your son's type? At any rate: I am willing to bet you anything that he's hers. Fourteen year old girls do not understand the idea behind guys and girls being friends. Women typically gun for older men. Chances are she wants a little of the 'Ketch DNA on her chin.

I would explain the seriousness of the situation to your son. If he listens then that's all you can do. Leave it be, just make sure he knows.

Jack, you GOTTA do something about this.

http://i15.tinypic.com/33tnx1i.jpg

It is rather idiotic of him..

I fucking hate girls like that, in fact, I wouldn't let someone who falsely cried rape into my house! Full stop!

It says enough about that person's nature, I reckon.

quote:Originally posted by deathtojack:

I wouldn't trust some dude to spend hours in a room with my girlfriend.



Me and him are friends, plus she told him where she was.

*sigh* I used to be a teenager... I learned from my own mistakes.

I grew up a little and realised that learning from other people's mistakes gets you through life safer, though things aren't exactly drummed into your head quite the same.

I also realised that people had been trying to tell me that throughout my teenage years and I never listened.

Jack, Im sure your son knows of this girl's past and isn't actually going to rape her. So I doubt you have much to worry about.

EDIT: I is chnge mind coz 3 posts under r smrt and i belev them now. beat his up now hrd

[This message has been edited by Docta? (edited 03-18-2007).]

Ketch, I am coming for supper, that sounds fucking delicious.

Anyway, when I was a kid my dad electrocuted one time, and he beat my ass when I got out of line, and now I'm fucking awesome. It's probably not too late to form your eldest into the most respectable of gentlemen....who would still get laid.

BEAT THE FUCK OUT OF HIM!!

i proclaim you smack him upside the bakc of his dome. he certainly fucking deserves it. i mean if she was 15... THATS a different story. your offspring just happens to have a very bad case of craving sex. and he thinks he can do whatever he wants because hes 18. (i just turned 18, i feel the same way) so tell him in your house, he does not smash bitches 2 years under the age of his own. may be harsh, but the fucker sounds remedial.

NO, YOU ARE NOT TO HARSH, YOU NEED TO INTERVENE IMMEDIATELY.

NOW

Some girls are just fucking crazy like that, and will make up false shit thinking it's cute or some form of control, hell who really knows why some of them do it.

I had a girl make false allegations against me once. Nothing ever happened from this FIRST incident. Then she calls me crying wanting to get back with me. I said Okay, in the meantime I called a good friend of mine who is an attorney, he told me I was fucking crazy to hook back up with this chick. He said look if you do just get pics, vids, and at least audio recordings.

Well that turned out to be the best advise ever and I did follow it. Within months we broke up again and she calls the police for the second time with false allegations. I get a call to come in for a chat.

I called my attorney, he said don't talk to them, get me your pics, vids, and audios ASAP. I did, he meet with the police and I have never heard another word from the police or this fucking bitch.

Stay away from women who have the propensity to think like this. Even if they claim, "Oh I promise, I'll never do it again!"

Go smack your son up the side of the head.

Rinse and repeat.

quote:Originally posted by bloodenangel:

Go smack your son up the side of the head.

Rinse and repeat.

I had the chance to date a girl who had done a similar thing with the rape accusations. Even though she was my own age (actually like 2 months older) i was still like "oh hell no! i know what happened to the last guy!"

And to do it in a situation where she is that much younger... what a BAD FUCKING IDEA.

and now i've got the needle, but i can't shake - and i can't breathe. i take it away but i want more and more... one day i'm gonna lose the war.

lyin in my plastic bed, thinikin' how things were so cool to me. and my baby likes to shoot pool. i like lyin naked in my bedroom. tyin on the dinosaur tonight... and i've got the needle...

She's already accused someone of rape once. Who's gonna believe her this time? I say your son should rape her for real just for the aggravation she caused that other dude.

quote:Originally posted by mysterectomy:

She's already accused someone of rape once. Who's gonna believe her this time? I say your son should rape her for real just for the aggravation she caused that other dude.

Don't matter none if even the police and the DA don't believe her.Thanks to the Fem-Nazis these days EVERY accusation, however incredible, of rape has to be fully investigated...paper suits at dawn kinda thing, massive invasions of personal liberties (for example the taking and holding of the guy's DNA forever-whether charges are brought or not) etc etc.

kill her

quote:Originally posted by d1rty piss stool:

kill her

LOL sometimes the direct approach...

NO, but seriously I have decided to ask my son not to bring her home again. I don't want to go all nazi and slap a 'Hausverbot' on her but if he doesn't have the sense to see she's too bigger risk to even be friends with then I will ban her from my property.

how did he find the stupity to do this? you really wonder jack? i mean... common

Once certain "thinking" area's become active, they suck blood from area's wich should have been used for thinkin, thus not only becomin an active voice, but also the stronger one cause the original thinkin center is to busy fightin for oxygen

In other words, he's a horny teen, what did ya expect?

And you do realise sex in an alley makes it much more likely it was rape if she accuses someone again *stares at jack and his she's banned from the house statement*

quote:Originally posted by Dextros:

Ketch, I am coming for supper, that sounds fucking delicious.

That means you'd get to see the sight of a 6 ft skinhead waving a 14" knife, 'dancing' around the kitchen while listening to an elective mix of 'Cajun, Stomps From The Swamps', German Folk, IRA rebel songs, Punk and BBC Radio 4.

'ton Papa et ta Mama'

' so warn's die olle Ritter's Leut'

'gales in Rockall, Shannon'

' with armed cars and tanks and guns...'

'pretty vayyyy-cunt'

Culturally challenged...much?



[This message has been edited by jackketch (edited 03-19-2007).]

quote:Originally posted by jackketch:

in passing...with a lead pipe?

affirmative

God gave men two heads. With only enough blood to run one. A lead pipe should do nicely to turn the correct one on

Yeah I think You should give him a stern "talking to" with the largest lead pipe in your possession. This whole situation just screams DANGER WILL ROBINSON,DANGER WILL ROBINSON!!!! BAD FUCKING IDEA,BAD FUCKING IDEA!!!!!

Wait, so you didn't kick her out once you learned about that whole false rape story?

Couldn't you get in trouble if she said he raped her while you were home?

Maybe she is related to the guy that killed all the hookers. And your sons just a victim?

Sometimes a smack in the face is the only thing that'll wake up sleeping motherfuckers.

quote:Originally posted by CptnCrackHound:

He said look if you do just get pics, vids, and at least audio recordings.



that's a brilliant idea

i can imagine that conversation

"son i want you to take this camera and record everything you do with this girl"



[This message has been edited by tyrael (edited 03-19-2007).]

You should definitely talk to your son. If there's nothing between them than trust him, you obviously have before. If you still have suspicions, bug his room.

He probably knows the risks involved, and I'd think he'd act maturely. In defense of horny teenage boys, I spent most of sunday alone with someone elses girlfriend, and NOTHING happened, because we're JUST FRIENDS. This is a perfectly possible and probable scenario.

Your job as a parent is to let your child experience life just enough to get the most out of it, but not enough to get his ass in jail/ground.

In my opinion, time to curb that enthusiasm. Put the foot down if you have to - kids are stupid, it's for his own good.

Give him the fatherly talk

you know the one with the almost comically reassuring voice where you dont TELL HIM whats to do but you say what you "think"

EDIT:

In that case the fatherly talk works =P

I think I need to get some of this gene

[This message has been edited by GorgoN (edited 03-20-2007).]

quote:Originally posted by GorgoN:

Give him the fatherly talk

you know the one with the almost comically reassuring voice where you dont TELL HIM whats to do but you say what you "think"

either that or take him to a hooker

Why on earth would I want to pay for that when he gets all the sex he wants gratis???!!

(he has inherited the Ketchian 'irresistible to all women' gene).

Seriously! I am narked at the mere suggestion that any son of mine might have to pay for sex!!

Hell, even my crippled son gets enough action!

Radio 4 is good. INLA songs are good too, you should look into that.

Mmm, your son always sounds like a total ignorant tit...

You going to point your observations "firmly" to him then? Maybe he's considered it, and really isn't romantically interested. Probably not though...

Would suck if he gets into the same sketchy situation as the other lad. Maybe you could embarrass her when she's around again; something alone the lines of "ohhh, Katie mcwhatthefuck, ahhh that rings a bell, I think some coppers were round 'ere a while back mentioning your name, rob a bank or something, did ya?"

She might not want to come back so quickly

Ketch, I can easily follow your concern.

My take on this would be to forbid that girl in the house, because she is a potential danger to your son.

She accused someone of rape, something VERY serious. I wouldn't trust her for anything, and especially not with my kids.

She may not be doing a thing like that again, who knows, she could have learned a lesson.

But I wouldn't test it on my own kids.

Yes, we do all learn from mistakes, but there are mistakes that we'd rather be without, and I think accusations of rape just might be one of those.

I think where you went wrong is when you decided to reproduce.

ok lets see here..

Basics: 18yr old son + Crazy Ass 14yr old bitch = ?

? = your son getting fucked some how.

ok now, you said something about a 14" knife which you use to cook with? Now..take that knife and repeatedly stab this 14yr old bitch with it over and over and over again. Then, go forth and burn her body and the cloths you were wearing at that time. Then carefully dispose of the knife somewhere will it NEVER will be found.

and that solves your problem!

well

your kids an idiot

also

op: ur in australia?

awesome

Fuck, If it where my kid I would be up there telling the girl to leave before she blaims my kid for rape.

quote:Originally posted by jackketch:

However, while they were upstairs youngest offsprung comes to me and tells me that this girl is only 14.

Not that that bothers me over much these days. Here in Norfolk....

But it seems that this girl had an older boyfriend last year with whom she was sexually involved.

She accused of him raping her!

I know this for a fact because the police came round to interview my lads. I just hadn't realised it was this girl.

After putting this boy through a fair imitation of hell, the charges were dropped as it was clear to all that the sex had infact been consensual etc (although personally I think its his own fault -a 23 year old sleeping with a 13 year old is asking for trouble even in Norfolk.)



Damn, nigga...

I support your son's gradeschool-schlupping ways, and am proud of you for raising him with the confidence to resist the social pressure to be a 'breast man' if he doesn't want to... but shit...

...there's been a long-standing tradition of social philosophy that accusing someone of rape is the only thing that's as fucked up as rape, y'know what I mean?

Would you encourage your son to hang out with someone who had a bad reputation for, I dunno, murder out of impulse control, rather than by premeditation? What if they had an argument over the remote?

I'd encourage him to go back down to the gradeschool where he found her and find someone else. Anyone else. 'n that goes for if they really are 'just friends,' too.

let him have sex with her, if you were in his situation, you'd want to tap that ass.

quote:Originally posted by jackketch:

in passing...with a lead pipe?

I'm not sure if your mentality is rubbing off on me, or mine off on you, but this is a splendid idea.



Imagine the trouble that girl could cause for you yourself, let alone your son.



You *are* the grownup of the house, why dont you just ban her from your home?

My boyfriends psycho mother did that to me, and me and him had been going out for over a year..

What are you going to do about this situation?

quote:Originally posted by Nascarphreak008:

Then carefully dispose of the knife somewhere will it NEVER will be found.



I liked your idea right up till that point..

quote:Originally posted by yoyobek:

I liked your idea right up till that point..

me too...I mean, come on! Its an antique 100 year old carbon steel hand made Sabatier with ebony nugent handle in a full tang, worth a bout $250 and I just sent it at great expense to amish-land to get it sharpened!

Thanks to modern medical science sons *can* be replaced...decent french knives of that quality ...not!