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| Sex and Affection Anything and everything about sex and relations. Please try to keep this forum on-topic, since things tend to wander a bit. Search through old topics before posting a new one, as questions get repeated a lot here. |
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#1
 2007-03-16, 01:05
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Fascismo 
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Dating tips for men
Abandon Hope
Ogre Littletroll
Woman is not human. Not in the sense we know. Although they resemble humans and mimic some of our behavior, Woman is more like a snake with tits and an ass.
They live according to a different set of rules than what we would consider fair and ethical. Woman acts and speaks according to whatever suits her emotional needs in the moment; and in doing so, anything is fair game. Lying, cheating, betrayal, nagging, and various forms of cruelty are all acceptable, provided that she feels her actions are justified, but regardless of how absurd her criteria for justification may be. Breaking appointments is perfectly acceptable and require no explanation.
Woman desires power. She may want to be equal to Man but she desires what is superior to her. Woman is constantly at odds with herself; she wants what she can't have; and when she gets what she wants she no longer wants it.
Woman is a whore; this is her natural state. She wants to be ravaged like a piece of meat; she wants to be violated; to be raped, to be sodomized. She is vile and perverted. Woman despises herself, and although she may want respect, she despises those who yield it to her.
Man is an emotional creature; affectionate, loyal, loving, fair and just. This is his natural state. Men who are not like this have only learned to become so through emulating the behavior of Woman, or have otherwise become corrupted due to emotional abuse.
Woman has the ability to do Man great emotional harm. Woman takes delight in manipulating the emotions of men so as to cause us anger, frustration, confusion, profound sadness and blind rage. She does this, whether knowingly or not, to test the emotional fortitude and power of men, to measure her own power, to feed her ego, to validate herself, or many other reasons. At no time does she feels her actions are immoral, no matter how cruel they may be. If the man retaliates, in an attempt to safeguard his emotional well-being, it is, in our legal system, a prosecutable crime.
But herein lies insight to understanding woman's desire. As previously stated, Woman desires what is superior to her. If a woman can control a thing, she is superior to it, and ergo does not desire of it. If she cannot control it, it must therefore be superior, and ergo she feels desire for it. This explains why Woman will do things which seem cruel to us, but to her, it is only her way of testing a man's desirability, although she may not be aware of this consciously.
Woman desires what she cannot have. She is attracted to married men, homosexual men, and the otherwise "taken", and may go to great extremes to sabotage a man's bonds with another so that she may have him to herself. Such a man is difficult to emotionally manipulate, since his needs are already met. Woman must go to great lengths to win him over. The greater the effort she must make, the more she desires him. Woman desires a challenge.
But the man who is single and available, willing and ready, this she finds repulsive. There goes a man who is free for the taking; to have and to hold; loyal and true; Woman regards him with disgust.
The single man truly has a dilemma. The single man is lonely; and as such is emotionally frail and vulnerable; he is easily manipulated by Woman and ergo undesirable. The very thing he needs to cure him of his vulnerability is the thing he cannot attain; and the greater his need, the more unattainable it becomes.
So then, what can such a man do?
A man must extinguish his desires, as in the Buddhist way of non-attachment. Buddhism states that desire is the cause of suffering; nowhere is this more obvious than in the case of the single man. If you desire something it has power over you; and if it is a woman you desire then she has that power; the very power that, once yielded to her, repels her.
The single man must give her NOTHING.
This is easier said than done, however. Woman is clever. It is only a matter of time before she finds a way to push through your cool exterior, drops your defenses, makes you feel safe, reaches in and pulls out your carefully guarded innate desire. (The so-called "inner wuss".)
And when that happens, she suddenly drops your sorry ass like a rock.
And the closer you got to attaining your desire, the harder was the fall.
Ultimately, what is the goal? Is the goal for the single man to acquire the thing that he desires? Actually, no. The goal is for the single man to acquire emotional well-being. He must safeguard this well-being above all else. How does he do this? By not sticking his neck out, or his head up, or his dick out, or his heart on his sleeve, however you want to put it, in harms way, where it can get cut off. And the only way to avoid a fall is to stay down.
The one thing that causes the single man's downfall, every time, is hope. The deluded belief that this time it will be better; this time it will be different; this time it's going to work out. Once he feels hope, he suddenly exposes himself emotionally, and, with penis flapping about in the wind for all to see, happily hands Woman his testicles so that she can gleefully crush them.
Do I propose that the single man simply not approach Woman? Not at all.
I suggest that he may do so, but only with the thought in mind that he will be rejected. Not might, but will, without doubt. If not today, then tomorrow. In effect, he has already been rejected even before approaching her. That being the case, she can't hurt him he is already dead. Although he may find her desirable, he hopes for nothing, and expects nothing. Without expectation, he is free to interact with the woman and let that interaction run it's course, wherever it goes. The man must suppress any delusion of hope. It is a mental discipline. In effect all he must do is not yield to the temptation to place his emotional well-being in harm's way.
This is nothing new; I am only adapting the philosophy of the Resolute Acceptance of Death. The warrior goes into battle knowing he is already dead; therefore he has nothing to fear. In the same way, the single man engages a woman knowing he has already been rejected.
If the single man is going to feel anything it should be fear. Not fear of rejection, but the fear of a person who can cause him great emotional harm. Here is someone who can hurt him and should be regarded as an opponent in battle. This man must face his fear and engage his opponent. She will try to raise his hopes. She does this whether knowingly or not; she may be testing him; she may just want to validate her own ego, to test her own power.
A taken man is impervious to her machinations; there is already another woman, or perhaps many women in his life, that draw his emotional attention away from her. But the single man does not have this advantage. It is not enough to require of the single man to free himself of desires; sooner or later, Woman will find them. The single man must have something as his focus, his anchor, his center, to keep from straying into harm's way. What the single man has is rejection. He has his long history of failure as proof in validation of his pessimism. As long as he keeps this constant thought in the center of his interaction with her, he will remain serene, focused, and impervious to Woman's manipulations. He must remain confident in his own pessimism.
I then put forth the possibility, hypothetically speaking, that in doing so, the single man, being of serene and focused mind, emotionally impenetrable, free of attachment, centered and disciplined, may start to appear desirable to Woman. And as her efforts to break his focus continuously fail, she will grow frustrated and try even harder. Thusly the seeds of attraction are sown within her and shall begin to grow into desire.
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#2
 2007-03-16, 01:10
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Re: Dating tips for men
Wow, someones a little biased, if not downright bitter.
Nevertheless, theres a lot of truth in what you say, and no woman would ever agree with you, but you're right.
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#3
 2007-03-16, 01:23
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Fascismo 
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Re: Dating tips for men
Good for you for reading the whole thing. To be honest, I expected a whole slew of tl/drs and still do.
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#4
 2007-03-16, 01:24
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Re: Dating tips for men
quote:Woman is a whore; this is her natural state. She wants to be ravaged like a piece of meat; she wants to be violated; to be raped, to be sodomized. She is vile and perverted.
I'll keep that in account.
But this is biased.
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#5
 2007-03-16, 02:31
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wooty 
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Re: Dating tips for men
You got it in your mind that you have to be a stoic ubermensch to be attractive to women, but that's wrong.
If you're a healthy man, in mind and body, and have goals and ambitions, then you will be attractive to women.
Girls just want to have fun. Maybe for marriages and long term relationships some of this shit is true (that they'll test their power, whatever) but I'm sure most of your post doesn't apply to getting laid in general.
By all means, if you want to be a hitman or a samurai, apply the resolute acceptance of death, and sculpt yourself into a superbeing, but you don't need that to get some pussy.
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#6
 2007-03-16, 02:34
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Re: Dating tips for men
I never said I read the whole thing, I think I made it about halfway through. And what I read was pretty much dead on. You need to work on your delivery though, it sends your readers into instant-defensive mode. Even the guys.
And starwars, that bit about them being whores really is dead on.
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#7
 2007-03-16, 02:53
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Lolo_Ferrari 
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Re: Dating tips for men
::Applauds::
Congratulations, you've found out the truth.
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#8
 2007-03-17, 03:20
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Fascismo 
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Re: Dating tips for men
I didn't write this, I got it off an article on http://www.heretical.org.
[This message has been edited by Fascismo (edited 03-17-2007).]
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#9
 2007-03-17, 03:27
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Mojo Savage 
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Re: Dating tips for men
If you believe this, then sorry chums but I think you really are pricks... Some of that crap, woman testing her boundaries and whatnot, sure it has a grain of truth, but for the most part I think Simon or whoever wrote this is just trying to compensate for the lack of good times in his dreary existence...
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#10
 2007-03-17, 03:51
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Re: Dating tips for men
Yeah, that fascist probably couldn't get the "will to power" going in his "master race" if you know what I mean...
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#11
 2007-03-17, 04:11
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Rocko 
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Re: Dating tips for men
Actually, not showing any emotion (except humor, satisfaction, and basic man stuff) around women is a very good policy.
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#12
 2007-03-17, 04:18
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Nephtys-Ra 
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Re: Dating tips for men
Haha, this poor sonofabitch hasn't gotten laid for years and is all bitter.
rofflewaffles
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#13
 2007-03-17, 04:19
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captain_kirk 
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Re: Dating tips for men
Holy generalizations batman.
I wouldn't hop in your pants.
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#14
 2007-03-17, 04:48
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Moloch 
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Re: Dating tips for men
You almost seem to be proud to be human. I'm probably just confused, but much of the time I feel ashamed at being part of that collective. Not so much ashamed as self-loathing. I pride myself solely on the fact that I can hate myself more than anyone else, and that is my unalienable right as a human being, albeit a forced one. Get off the horse and learn to stand on your own feet. Who knows? You might look a little taller.
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#15
 2007-03-17, 05:16
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Jeffery_Huntar 
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Re: Dating tips for men
quote:Originally posted by Lolo_Ferrari:
::Applauds::
Congratulations, you've found out the truth.
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#16
 2007-03-17, 05:17
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Mojo Savage 
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Re: Dating tips for men
Okay did Moloch's post make much sense to anyone? As far as I can tell, he hates himself so much for standing out from the collective.(I see it as a good thing to stand out)
...Or is it that he hates himself for not standing out?
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#17
 2007-03-17, 05:31
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Moloch 
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Re: Dating tips for men
I digressed too much. My point was mostly in the last three sentences, and when I decided to finish reading his article, he sort of said what I was saying there.
Edit to address the digress:
As far as I can tell, he hates himself so much for standing out from the collective.(I see it as a good thing to stand out)
I was saying that after the feelings of hatred, I find pride and strength in that I could feel intense self-worth from within self-devaluation. The metaphorical horse (applying to someone who needs to be higher than people to determine worth) will die and other people value you more if you see them eye to eye.
[This message has been edited by Moloch (edited 03-17-2007).]
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#18
 2007-03-17, 06:33
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Kitsune555 
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Re: Dating tips for men
www.themysterymethod.com (http://www.themysterymethod.com)
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#19
 2007-03-17, 06:52
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stab 
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Re: Dating tips for men
My god, you're all idiots.
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#20
 2007-03-17, 07:24
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Bazzle 
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Re: Dating tips for men
ok...little teenage virgins acting stoic and hardass isnt hot. or attractive or resolute or whatever.
its fucking lame, so cut it the fuck out.
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