Well ive been doing great around the ladies,(keeping a good vibe that is), but i feel that sometimes asking for the girls number may be inappropriate...especially if ive just met the girl on the spot and only been talking to her for 5-10 mins. So how can i go about doing this without seeming too strong or whatever.

Cuz ive been successful once at a situation like this, but ive been denied a few times, so i got like a negative mind/nervous mind set when asking for their digits.

So what can i do/say to make it more smoother.

EDIT:: May i add, situation wise, like talking to a girl working at a store or restaurant...short-notice type deal

[This message has been edited by NitrousMafia (edited 03-11-2007).]

Just be like "hey, you wanna hang out again sometime?" if she says yes, just casually ask if you can get her number, just say it like it's an "oh by the way" type of thing. Works every time.

why would you want the # of chicks you've known for 5 minutes

maybe get to know them a little better.... duh

quote:Originally posted by Ballin:

why would you want the # of chicks you've known for 5 minutes

maybe get to know them a little better.... duh



^^^^ Cause maybe they are in a situation where i cant really do that. Such as a waitress at a restaurant or a girl working behind the counter at some store.....this is the kind of situations that i need it for.



[This message has been edited by NitrousMafia (edited 03-11-2007).]

Chicks like strong confident guys thats why booze helps.

^^^ booze for what? me? i dont need it im alright talking to them, its just in the end to either sign her up or to let her go. Lately ive been pulling the george mcfly, "What if she says no, im not sure if i can take that kind of rejection"...lol not really but my mind just is playing the yes/no deal, usually if im in the right mindset i ask regardless...whether or not it sounds right but shit...IDK i just need a firmer line.

Drunk people are just more confident and i get the babes most when im drunk.

so you want a good pick-up line which doesnt require circumstances to be in your favour............sorry i got none im hung over so im not thinkin to well.

Just ask and be all like hey so you wanna chill sometime? Well can I have your # something like that. OR you could just ask

yea ^^^ true that, but sometimes i get off on the wrong tone, what u said there made me think of something.....that might work.

Yea just asking them plain out is the basic way, and i like approaching stuff differently..then what is expected.

then think of your own ways. Theres many creative ways to get a girls number. I will not list any because I do not want you stealing any of mine But you should be able to think of some

first of all man trying to spit at females in the work environment really isn't cool at all.

girls that work in dept stores in customer service or restaurant as a waitress are supposed to be nice to people because it's part of their job. so really going beyond the "curteousy level" can be inappropriate, and jus because she is polite and receptive to you doesn't mean she is interested.. so just keep that in mind whenever you are tryin to game on females who are at work, because it isn't the same as if you were jus tryin to talk to a girl at a party or in school or something. totally different.

with that bein said you jus have to be BOLD and CONFIDENT with what you do.. I recommend instead of asking for her number give her your number and let her know when would be a good time for her to call you.. "you should hit me up sometime, here take my number.. give me a call sometime in the evenings because i'm usually around then"

this is good because if the girl isn't interested she simply won't call and you won't have to sweat over her, and you can jus keep on campaigning to other females.. it's also worth noting that the person who makes the call is relinquishing a certain degree of power to the person receiving the call, so this puts you in a good position when you have females CALLING YOU instead of the other way around.. but i'm not gonna go into the psychology behind that. anyway take my advice and fuckin' take it easy on the mackin on females who are at work son.



[This message has been edited by DENKDAN (edited 03-11-2007).]

Do a Colombo.

Explain you have to go and find your friends again, turn to go then turn round and go

Wait a minute, I enjoyed this conversation, do you fancy hanging out sometime.

quote:Originally posted by DENKDAN:

first of all man trying to spit at females in the work environment really isn't cool at all.

girls that work in dept stores in customer service or restaurant as a waitress are supposed to be nice to people because it's part of their job. so really going beyond the "curteousy level" can be inappropriate, and jus because she is polite and receptive to you doesn't mean she is interested.. so just keep that in mind whenever you are tryin to game on females who are at work, because it isn't the same as if you were jus tryin to talk to a girl at a party or in school or something. totally different.

with that bein said you jus have to be BOLD and CONFIDENT with what you do.. I recommend instead of asking for her number give her your number and let her know when would be a good time for her to call you.. "you should hit me up sometime, here take my number.. give me a call sometime in the evenings because i'm usually around then"

this is good because if the girl isn't interested she simply won't call and you won't have to sweat over her, and you can jus keep on campaigning to other females.. it's also worth noting that the person who makes the call is relinquishing a certain degree of power to the person receiving the call, so this puts you in a good position when you have females CALLING YOU instead of the other way around.. but i'm not gonna go into the psychology behind that. anyway take my advice and fuckin' take it easy on the mackin on females who are at work son.





Yea i usually hand out or depending where im at give them my number first, i do that more than usually asking them, just depends on the current situation.....and yea i understand that talking to a girl just because shes nice doesnt mean shes interested but that dont mean you cant do work on her while shes at work...SCH

It works best if it's completely outrageous.

Also may i add, the few girls that i have in mind that i needed this help on, they set themselves up, like they are open to be exploited with smooth talk and such, cause of what they say. Im creative when it comes to stuff like this and i just cant respond with a simple answer....

"I don't mean to be forward or anything, but ... "

"...GTFO before I karate chop your face off"

HIT ME!!

quote:Originally posted by ZeroMalarki:

Do a Colombo.

Explain you have to go and find your friends again, turn to go then turn round and go

Wait a minute, I enjoyed this conversation, do you fancy hanging out sometime.

Hahaha nice.

Women generally expect guys to go up to them, talk to them for about 10 - 15 minutes, ask them generic questions, smother them with complements, then ask them for their numbers when the whole charade is done.

When you do the exact same thing to a girl at an event, it is highly likely it isn't the first time it's happened to her that night, and you'll probably end up nothing but another guy that joins the queue.

I find that the best way to grab a girls attention is to break the mould. Nothing too outrageous - a bold, straightforward "Hi, are you single?" can do wonders. It saves times and makes you sound like a confident male, not a shy mumbling teenage boy who has to invent all kinds of bullshit just to get someones number.

Just keep it short (less than 2 minutes) and to the point, with the air of someone who does this all the time. She would be so bowled over by your confidence she'll give you her number in no time. The is no trick to it apart from being totally natural. It's all in the body language, but don't go overboard.

If you fail, bust her on it, but don't carry on too much. If you fail outright, blame it on your lack of style or tact.

If you do it right you'll come away with her number and her admiration for standing out from the countless other wussy suckups.

The best thing to do once you're done is to move off to other girls immediately and she'll spend the rest of the night looking around for you, wondering about you and probably feeling a little jealous at you talking to other females. You can call her later in your own time to set up a date to get to know her. That is what dating is for afterall, not the initial contact.

In my experience, there isn't a female in the world that wouldn't react to a guy with such confidence. I reckon it's more of an instinct thing rather a idealistic thing, which means all that shit about girls liking guys that are sensitive etc = bullshit.



[This message has been edited by n20Xide (edited 03-13-2007).]

You need ridiculously solid game if you're number closing within 10-15mins. You should do at least 25mins, if possible.

Anyway, this excerpt is from the man himself while doing a number exchange (it's necessary to have your early game down). The following routine isn't exactly stand-alone, it just helps ensure the following meeting if she's already interested.

quote:'Now, I just want you to know, when we talk to each other on the phone tomorrow... and ultimately we're going to want to see each other again and not just talk on the phone. You know, I just want you to recognise that it's a weird situation... I know it's a weird situation. You and I are going to have to barrel through this together; because you're going to be given a choice at that moment, you know... are you going to go hang out with someone you don't know, or are you going to hang out with someone you already know. But if you were to think that way for all those people you now know, they wouldn't be in your life. All those people you know and love would not be a part of your life if you thought 'Oh, I am not going to hang out with someone new.' So I am going to barrel through the weirdness with you, because I don't really know you, but you're fucking fun... okay... and I promise nothing but great conversation... we're supposed to do this.'

It has a lot of 'know', in there, but if you say it with the right rhythm, it fucking works. A good way to test your patterns of speech for the approach is to actually 'sound out', what you say. For example, if you say 'How are you going?', you verbalise the phonics of your tone... onomatopoeia-wise it sounds something like 'nnh nnh nuh nuhh nnnh'... but you listen to the inflections by analysing the sounds you make (you will feel fruity doing this, but it works). Once you know how you use inflections with language, you can consciously change the way that you articulate. If you do this you can make the very way that you talk awesomely smooth.

Oh... and don't listen to Denkdan, he's fucking retarded. If you hand out phone numbers expecting the girl to call you, then you're going to lose... if she was into you enough to actually call you, then she'd be happy to give you her number. Giving your phone number out without enough rapport for her to give you hers demonstrates lower value.

[This message has been edited by Durell (edited 03-13-2007).]

Nice post bro ^^^^.... Yea idk if ihave 25 minutes, for the girl i have in question at the most i could have 15, pushing it hard.But this girl in question sat her self up where u can slide in some smooth moves...

Like some of things she said, u could easily without thinking come back with a smooth creative response, instead of just a yes or no type deal.

Yea i use to do that thing with my voice alot back in highschool and i still do sometimes, depends if i catch myself before i start saying what im going to say before hand. Like keeping my tone even, and confident sounding so to speak.

Overall id say my game is good enough for the challenge, but its up to the situation, if i fuck up or do something wrong etc......then closing the deal by asking/getting her number is the next part. Also im pretty confident when i go to do work with the ladies, its either do work or get the fuck out decision. So i either do 100% or 0% and abort. My saying is if i can get them to listen to whay i say with enough attention, then i got them by the ass. But if they aint on the same frequency as me, im out....

"EDIT": In other words ^^^ one of those "i cant refuse" situations.

Only problem is when doing this scheme is to find out if the girl is single or not...get nailed with that famous line, oh i have a boyfriend already. Oh well then i guess if she says that, move on....thats what id do.

[This message has been edited by NitrousMafia (edited 03-13-2007).]

"I find that the best way to grab a girls attention is to break the mould. Nothing too outrageous - a bold, straightforward "Hi, are you single?" can do wonders. It saves times and makes you sound like a confident male, not a shy mumbling teenage boy who has to invent all kinds of bullshit just to get someones number."



Yea that looks like a opening for me, i thought about that previously, like how many other dudes have tried to do work with her, and whether or not, depending on how i come on to her, if she'll be in the positon to automatically deny me from the start, or leave it open and say hey maybe this guy is descent?

Yea sometimes i dont feel ready to throwdown, especially if im not dressed correctly. I just automatticaly forget about action, cause u gotta think about the situation in both ways. If some scrounge ass looking girl comes up to you talking game, what will you do? Deny her or ignore her. So if i go up to some girl looking half assed, she'll think man what a bum.....

Oh yeah, i forgot to mention, that some of this shit may be recorded on camera. Mainly becuz if pull this off, its just a memorable situation that would be awsome to look back on. Just like in movies or whatever you see some dude trying to get some chicks number, and ur sitting there thinkin..he wont get it..i kno he wont..then WHAM the impossible happens.

Cause the main reason guys do alot of shit like this is because of peer pressure. I want to do it becuz of the challenge and cause some girls literally just grab all my attention, and to show up some people. I kno i shouldnt think along those lines, but thats what keeps me going. Its like my fuel for the fire.



[This message has been edited by NitrousMafia (edited 03-13-2007).]

Pfft, girls ask me for my number... (*isn't as hard core as sounded*)

You guys are all n00bs.....Just get small talk boom number works like 80% of the time for me if you get rejected who the fuck cares and move on to another whore

[This message has been edited by Tesla (edited 03-14-2007).]

Become a stalker.

When they deny to give their numbers. Just say it out for them and ask if you're right.

Go home that night and phone her, tell her you're coming over. You have to get their fast before she calls the police.

You can usually get in about 5-10 mins rape before being handcuffed. Good luck.

quote:Originally posted by Euda:

It works best if it's completely outrageous.

Write the question on your butt, then moon her

No but seriously, why bother wasting all this time and energy thinking up anything creative.

'Got a number?' 'great, write it down'

It's not hard. It's just that most people are scared of rejection so they come up with all these stupid little 'tricks' to trick a girl into giving her number, all of which are completely see through and come off as insecure and pathetic.

^^^ tricks? Dont mess around with that chicken shit bulshit, its called setting up the situation....none of that bulshit, hey i forgot my number, can i have yours?

...anything else?!

My favorite and personal one is "hey i think your really pretty (substituting pretty for hot, beautiful, gorgeous, etc. is ok), can I get your phone number?

Try it, it works pretty successfully.

quote:Originally posted by assassinate the president:

Write the question on your butt, then moon her



Write the question "Will you marry me?"

[This message has been edited by smallpox champion (edited 03-16-2007).]

Heh, getting a number is one thing, actually getting to talk to her is another. A girl will almost always give you a number, it's much easier then shutting you down. Then she will either not call you back or she will given you the wrong number.

25 minutes is a long fucking time. shit, 10 minutes is too long in my opinion. I like to keep it under 4. The guy who said to walk and say "hey, are you single?" and get the number in 2 minutes has the idea. The thing is you have to ask it right, like you're accusing her of being single. Imagine asking someone "Hey, is that wig?" it should be in that exact tone.

Also the guy who said to be like "well it was nice meeting you im gonna get back to my friends" then disconnect and turn around and say "hey u gotta phone number?" is right, that shit is straight from david deangelo and it works well i find but keep it under 5 minutes.

Simple Solution....dont ask for the Number.

Ask her for an Email address...

Makes you out to be a completely different guy (as most ask her for the digets)

AND email is pretty impersonal, so she has no reason to deny you that. Send a few emails back and forth, and then ask her for the number that way...

Asking for an email is a good idea, and then just tell her to write her number up top. She's already commited to giving you her information anyways, so she's kind of trapped.

Also, never be afraid to ask. If you meet a girl, and dont ask...then you walk away with nothing. If you ask and she says no, you walk away with nothing. So either way, you cant lose.

Yea, i doubt, if i was to be timed, if id make it over 10...cause i dont like fucking around...get down and dirty.

That email idea is better, but then u hafta wait for her to respond to u, VS. as if the phone number she was to give u was real u could speak to her right now.... But then copping both at the same time would be the way to really do work(thanks for that idea).

As for walking away and not asking, i feel like i left a page in the book of time left open, vs asking for her number and getting denied, i at least attempted and flipped to another page. By now some of the girls i seen and didnt say anything to are prolly taken by now. Either that or have a reason to stay single.....

[This message has been edited by NitrousMafia (edited 03-16-2007).]

email addys have a better chance for a response then cell phones do.

Read "The Game" by Neil Strauss

Alrite ill check that out, well school starts tomorrow ill post up if i think up any more questions, or if i get any descent results to share.

thx for all the responses so far.

you all got it wrong.

heres what your suggesting

you- hey

her- hi

you- bs for 2 minutes

you- can i get your number?

at this moment your giving her the option of saying no, thats the wrong way to do it

what you have to do is just make small talk aka find out if shes single. then just say something along the lines of "so what do you like to do, or what you doing this weekend"

if shes into you she will hint on it.

then say something along the lines of "well we should hang out this weekend if you got nothin goin on."

as long as she doesnt say "NO" your good.

at this point take out your phone hand it to her and say in a really joking way tell her to put her number in your contact list.

when she gives you your phone back call her here it ring, then hang up and say "and now you got my number"

its all a phycological thing. by telling them to put the number in your phone they wont say no. and you ask about 3 or 4 lead in questions to see if she is into you. if she turns one of the lead in questions down you just play it off as a harmless small talk question.

then once you get the number send her text messages

i dunno why chicks love texting so much but its pure gold.

then once you call her you kinda know what to talk about.

damn i typed for a while

^^^ nice...

Depends on when it is..morning..afternoon...evening..if im awake and such, and i see a girl somewhere that is potential, and im talking to her..i switch into like a auto pilot mode...where somehow dont ask how,I dont have like the feel of thought, like my mind goes blank, but in focus... I analyze what they say, then come back with something smooth(possibly making them laugh or to get info). Then i check like their eye contact and some body language. And if i think everything is going good(even tho it may not be, sort of giving myself a false/fake level of high confidence) ill push on and talk some game.

IDK how to compare it, this is stupid, but id say like a seizure, cause like a seizure u lose control and whatever happens, happens....its like sketchy...Same with this, like somehow i just switch over, i can feel this change(adrenaline+hormones rushing prolly HAHA) and i just sometimes step up and out...then other times..nothing. It just depends on the situation and if i get the click/rush going.

Anyone feel anything similar or can relate to what im talking to?

I'm a noob at this shit but I think half the work is done just by taking the initiative to go up and start talking to the girl. Instantly they'll be mentally scanning and asking themselves 'will i give him my number' if he asks. They know you will ask, DUH.

So you've done the hardest part which is getting the balls to start then its just a case of trial and error. If you chatted up all the girls you thought were hot in a day on the train, bus, library, whatever you have a FUCK LOAD of practice there. you might have a few numbers and you sift through those for your favourites.

Build a collection and you will be good at what you do and it will be routine and i guess sooner or later you will find yourself banging the girl you always thought you couldn't. WOOHOO. Oh yeh first you gotta take them out an all that shit, i guess here slowly introduce them to the real you, be neutral and dont offend/scare them. Well thats the plan/theory. Treat it like looking for a job, you expect rejection, just deal with it move on and keep probing, someone will give you their number and open their leges EVENTUALLY, odds are on your side if you try hard enough for long enough.

True that ^^^...Yea i was doing that alot before, just like a snowball rolling down a hill..just keep picking em up like its nothing, cause your like in the groove...but lately ive lost velocity and been fucking around