a number of australian members have recieved emails from an unknown person named

HIVE_BEE

he states he is in possession of an unlimited supply of 240mg sudafeds and is asking for any and all aussi cooks whom wish to buy any to contact him..

his emails originate from a government site in either NSW or VIC,,though he states he has sent them from a library

(are libraries government)?

firstly,

has anyone had any dealings with HIVE_BEE?

have these dealings been successful?

secondly

the laws he recites,,are yank laws,,

we do not have entrapment laws,,nor do we have police officer declaration laws...

i would hope that if someone does answer either of these two questions,,

they would not have registered on the day,,

or a couple of days previously,,

i saw that HIVE_BEE registered 24.1.2004..

i would like to warn all members to be wary of any and all similar deals from anyone whom you have not known on a personal level for many years

good luck,

and DONT ever TRUST anyone EVER......

i display the email without the recipients name....







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From: Hive_BEE [mailto:hive_bee@rock.com]

Sent: Monday, 26 January 2004 9:47 AM

To:

Subject: RE:RE: ..





I have an almost unlimited acces to 240 mg Sudafed pills. Many of them are older (1996-2000), and have less fillers than new ones. I also can get the newer ones, or 60mg if you prefer. The amount I charge varies with how much you order from me, the most you will ever have to pay is 12 dollars per gram of psedoephedrine, and the least is 8.50, but you will have to buy kilos to get that price.



I have shipped to both Australia and New Zealnd quite a bit. This is how I do it: I ship by "media mail" ....it is the least searched, but it will take about 10 days to get it to you. The package you get will be a bottle of wine with a "congratulations on your weeding" card. Along with it I pack a book, "chicken soup for the married couples soul."



Anyways, the Sudafed is in the wine bottle, and looks flawless. I grind it with a blender and mix it with alcohol so that it dissolves. This way, if it is scanned or x-rayed, it will only show liquid. I can fit roughtly 250 grams of Sudo in a bottle. This is my preferred method. I have done it many, any times without failure. Another way I have done it in the past is as follows: I buy a designer fragrance bundle, such as "polo, ralph lauren", ect. I hollow out the deodorant stick that comes with the bundle and fill it with pseudo. I prefer not to do this, as it costs more to do it this way.



I usually have it sent to a PO box. In some parts of NZ and australia you can get them anonymously. I have also had it sent to an abandoned house. One guy even has it shipped to a friend's house.



As far as payment goes, I accept either Western Union, or if you are really paranoid and do not want a paper trail, I have other ways of doing it. I can have you buy me expensive gift certificates, send them to my friends's house, and I will then sell them on ebay. It is not exactly a fluid transactions, but it wroks and there is no paper trail connecting us.



You also asked how you know that I am not a cop. Well, here goes: in the USA, if someone asks if you work for the police, DEA, FBI, ect, you are required by law to tell them so if they specifically ask. I am not a cop. I also ask you to tell me the same before I will sell to you.Also, since I was the one to contact you and ask you if you wanted to buy something, if you were charged with anything, it would fall under "entrapment."



ALso, you were wondering how I can be sure that the cops don't track who I deliver to. This is quite easily answered. I do not bring all of the packages to the posty myself. I often have one of my friends do it for me. I also ship from different post offices. On average, I ship out 2 bottles per week, and I have been doing this for about 2 years. That is not really alot. Not quite eneough for the cops to track me.... but I am prepared if they do try. I keep no records in my home or car. I also make all of my emails, ect from public computers at libraries. SO if they search my house for any reason, they will not find your adress (even if they did it would probably be some abandoned house or anonymous PO box!).



let me know if you are still interested.

--Original Message--

From:

To: hive_bee@rock.com

Subject: RE: . its me again.





You have def. gained swims attention. How do you get it past the border

nazi's? How can swim trust that you're not a cop, and that they don't track

who you deliver too? How cheep can you get it? How fast can you deliver?

--

>

>Hey, After I wrote that last email, I just thought I should fill you in on

>who I am. I am not from Brissi, I am originally from New Zealand and I now

>live elswhere. I have supplied pseudo for people in New zealand and

>Australia- I know how hard it is to get there. I can get it cheap and get

>it past the border nazis quite easily. let me know if you are interested.

>-Hive_BEE P.S. I am not a cop.

>

Thanks for the warning Kirbs.

this slapper aint a cop??

shit for brains is a agent for the man

how did this asshole get email addresses anyways?

thanks kirby!

in reading the email again,

he states he dissolves sudafed into alcohol and puts the solution into a bottle.

sudafed does not fully dissolve into alcohol,

there is a pillmass left over.

sudafed,if uncleaned, and mixed with alcohol,

its expanders would begin working, and within 5 mins,youd have a solid block of a waxy soap.

ive got a feeling he isnt a cop,

just a young man trying to scam people.

Agreed. He should take note upon reading this Thread the absurdity he patronized in his open soliciting of prospective customers who are total strangers and not interested in beckoning his call due to instinctive powers that don't even need to be rationalized as to their accurate sense of caution o this hat looks to be a threat to ones personal freedoms and liberties.

HIVE_BEE what the fuck is your age man?!

I just gave you a clean slate man and you know what I'm referring to when I say this!

And you turn around and do this kind of shit?!

I do know man that kirby is reacting logically sensible here. And HIVE_BEE surely will take note the fct that his solicitaion of this nature is about as absurd for one to patronize it as it is absurd in soliciting it in the first place man! And I have to agree man that this is the act of a kid and not an adult player.

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Swim recently received an e-mail requesting

assistance in obtaining knowledge for the

production of meth. Info. was needed for a research paper. In browsing through threads

swim found a post to all members requesting

same info and contact addy was the same.

Swim replied as such.

Swim has no idea where you obtained this addy, nor why you would assume swim would

have any knowledge in this matter. Swim

requests answers to these questions and

suggest you do the research.

Swim has discussed this with a few family

members already. If anyone would like

addition info. feel free to pm or im.

Princess

that entrapment shit he speaks of is bullshit as well. any US citizen who has watched an episode of COPS on tv knows this. for example the cops set up a sting operation to bust hookers, cop pulls up and hooker gets into car. they banter back and forth. the hooker asks, "are you a cop" the cop says "no im not a cop" they banter some more, a price and act is agreed upon. the cop makes some prearranged signal. the other cops swoop in and arrest the hooker. she says "but i asked you if you were a cop and you said no" he says "well i lied" as the whore is hauled off to jail. so dont believe for 1 second that a cop has to tell you wether he is a cop and that if he says NO, anything after that is entrapment. it simply isnt so. SWIM knows for a fact that cops will do dope with you, shoot it, snort it, smoke it, sell it, buy it, whatever needs to be done to facillitate a bust. they will do ANYTHING to infiltrate your circle. and if you think your gonna get off simply cuz you asked them if they are a cop then you are a damn fool and will be doing hard time. the only entrapment you will realize is when ben dover has you trapped in a cell. then its fuck or fight.

aah ben,

he is a good man,

yet we all make such slanderous allegations against his sexual orientation..

A few days ago I read a post HIVE_BEE made about ghb a post which Jam locked.I remember thinking at that time that hivebee wasnt very smart but I figured it was just some snot nosed kid postin some shit we knew anyway cuz it happens all the time.Im in agreement with Kirb and Jam I dont think hes a cop but I do think he should be treated like one.Im sure theres one out there but he would have to look long and hard before he could find a dumbass or someone stupider then he(or she)is.I mean lettin everyone no this guys is an idiot is a good thing but I cant see anyone buyin precusors from someone they dont no,someone they will never see,someone that emailed them,and they want you to send the money up front.Ya right!HIVE_BEE needs a good bitch slappin and so does anybody whom would even consider doin buisness with him.Im thinkin HIVE_BEES name and or ip addy will BEE one of those that is banned from this web site 4EVER Ps. if you call yourself a hive bee then why dont you just kick it at the hive.

[This message has been edited by the meth god (edited 01-27-2004).]

I'd say you are all pretty safe, cops usually go after the ones in the papers, ones that are gonna bring them a nice pat on the back because they are the talk of the town, kirby ya are a good cunt for warning us, that's for sure, but bro..

People that are gonna go ' Oh okay! ' and order a pile of shit from this guy, fuck.

talk about being the ambluance at the bottom of the cliff.

I thought it was pretty funny.

There seems to be something in common with 'racaaaa' questions asking about 'smuggling ephedrine in alcohol' about the same time in BLTC.

NZ and OZ

wine bottles

in alcohol

smuggling

lots of it

no basic knowledge

The dates

good pickup kiwi,

well done..

I

only an australian could have such a name,

for it be only spoken in the ring,

now stop shagging your hand and speak your mind...

really, well there is a library here in town and i traced the IPs for the library and it came up as an .edu and i will put my money on hivebee being a cop or dea or something similar.

wow!

is pseudo really that valuable in oz or was that kid jsut trying to make a quick buck from the unknowing???



Out of curiosity--as I stated I know no one in oz.

Do they open sealed bottles with correct labels of unregulated chems in customs?

Reason I ask is there once was a canadian firm who sent bottles of 1000 effy pills in large body builder type labeled bottles with lots of cotton inside and a heat seal around the lid and properly packaged

I heard it worked for for the US but maybe aussie customs actually take OTC bottles apart&lt;shrug&gt; if it IS indeed closely regulated over there to more of an extent than the US (I doubt it)

Here, they just dont like people shipping in amounts over a certain threshold

Oz--how are the regs?

guess the kid wanted to make some bucks on the side

what is that stuff worth over there anyway?

I know you get cheap morphine (as compared to US) due to your proximity to asian supplier so I would have assumed effy would be a cheap deal for you oz guys

--

If I assumed wrongly-sorry- I thought US was rough but oz must be worse if you guys-actually- pay that much for feedstock



[This message has been edited by dan46 (edited 02-03-2004).]

quote:Originally posted by dan46:

wow!

is pseudo really that valuable in oz!

damn shame I dont ahve any clos aussie friends I could make some nice trades

Out of curiosity--as I stated I know no one in oz.

Do they opend sealed bottles with correct labels of unregulated chems in customs?

Reason I ask is there once was a canadian firm who send bottles of 1000 effy pills in large body builder type labeled bottles with lots of cotton inside and a heqt seal around the lid and properly packaged

I heard it worked for us but maybe aussie customs actually take OTC bottles apart&lt;shrug&gt;

guess the kid wanted to make some bucks on the side

man, I though US was rough

what a rediculous dumbass statement to make. if we were regulated as heavy here as they are over there then that price would be cheap to pay considering the returns that can be made. do you know how much meth sells for over there? i didnt think so. but the price is a direct reflection of how difficult it is to produce the shit, just like here or anywhere else. damn man use your head for something besides a hatrack.

hey wicked rain

fuck you!

I had no idea what the score was in ozland--only the ridiculous rates that kid was asking for sudafed

And, considering ozland is so close to asia as compared to the US -&gt; where pseudo and effy are manuf./available for cheap in large amounts I was curious as to why he wanted so much for his stupafeds

heck, morphine and H are cheap over there in oz (compared to u.s.) thanks to oz's proximity to the far east--why not ephedrine hcl as it is sold out of asian countries in 25kg drums?

Damned if I know anything about their laws and enforcement--THUS MY QUESTION

gheesh

lighten up--will ya?

[This message has been edited by dan46 (edited 02-03-2004).]

EDDYS LUNCH BOX HAS BEEN INFECTED!!!!! OH NO,RUN FOR THE HILLS YOUNG EDDY!

Speedy eddy-



Hello. I see you are in need of Pseudo. I live in another country, and I have the access needed and the ability to send you as much as you would like. I prefer to deal in large quantities, and I can send you a free sample if you would like. All of my pills are 240 mg pseudos, brand name "Sudafed 24 hour."



-Hive BEE.



pseudo is the only active ingredient in them.



........also if you have trouble finding matchbooks, I could send you those too. Here is a tip if you do find some: "diamond" brand is very difficult to work with. "Bean and Sons" matches have more RP and are easier to extract from.

EDDY GOT THIS IN HIS LUNCH BOX!! BEWARE YOUNG EDDYS!

hi dan,

heroin at the moment is $100aust per packet, that being just over a taste,,about .12 of a gram.

quarter grams are $180aust.

halves are $300aust

grams are $500aust,

they run between 8% and 20%...

morphine and opium is nonexistant,

with the occasional seller marketing pharmaceutical pethidine as morphine..

quote:Originally posted by kirby:

hi dan,

heroin at the moment is $100aust per packet, that being just over a taste,,about .12 of a gram.

quarter grams are $180aust.

halves are $300aust

grams are $500aust,

they run between 8% and 20%...

morphine and opium is nonexistant,

with the occasional seller marketing pharmaceutical pethidine as morphine..

Those lyin oz people on adh then!

I was amazed at the prices they were quoting as compared to what people tell me H is priced at in the USA on thier chat

But, your pricing is a lot more within beliveable boundarys---even with the dollar diff

Hey,

I know alot of you think I am a cop. Think what you like. I have gotten alot of Sudo into Australia and NZ whether you would like to beleive it or not.

Since you were wondering where I post from, I use a university library so that my posts cannot be traced back to my house. I just like to be careful.

Since you were wondering why I don't just post at the hive.... well, I was kicked out of the hive for offereing to sell to people. I met alot of contacts that way, but after a while one of them just stopped answering emails. He probably is either dead or in jail form what I know of him.

So I was left with all of this extra Sudo... What the fuck would you do with it?



by the way...

thanks for blowing my cover guys

I will not be posting under this user name again any time soon. Also, don't bother emailing me.

sorry if any of you were offended.

Hive bee is probably not a cop, but you can bet that he is mighty stupid.

hive bee,

your full of shit...

9-11 made everyone tighten up,

id agree that you can get away with anything once,

maybe twice,

but to tell me that you have gotten numerous pseudo parcels through our customs proves to me that you are a tugger of that little dick in those school pants you wear,

now fuck off,

before i really do let loose on your persona with the considerable literary talents i possess.

okai... he is a complete bullshit artist tryin to rip us off... that is plain to see, but he is defiently not a DEA or something of the sort, do you think the DEA would be dumb enough to send out an email that could be traced back to them? its just another LOSER thinking he can rip us off

.edu.gov/ is an address connected to any govt or quasi govt,educational institution, or University, in australia, and its territories.....doubt it's the POlice..just some funrunner..

.edu.gov/....this is the address for ALL govt and quasi govt educational institutions, and Universities(without the 'gov' part if private)...not a nark guys..just a funrunner..ignore him..