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Laboratory Tips Safety proceedures, test reagents, drilling rubber stoppers, bending glass tubes, etc. Contributed to by chemists.

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Old 2004-01-23, 02:48
OZs2KEYs OZs2KEYs is offline
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Default H3PO3 from Fertilizer Q's..

Swim has a few questions about obtaining h3po3 from fertilizers.

What is the average pureity of it? Swim thinks he saw somewhere that it was 70%+?

How does someone go about finding out which bag contains the goods and which one doesnt?

When the correct bag is found, will the goods be just little crystalls that need to be picked out or will it be mixed in very well so some kind of solovent soak, filter, evap, or something along those line be needed?

Swim keeps looking for info, but it all talks about H3PO3 first, then say things like "Phosphite is a significant source of Phosphorus " And that this type of fertilzer contains Phosphite, is this still talking about the same thing?
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Old 2004-01-23, 03:32
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Default Re: H3PO3 from Fertilizer Q's..

hi oz,

jam listed a couple of articles,,so did jade,,on what you ask...

there over in wet dreams in the dreamin in blue forum,,,i think..

wet d is down for a few hours but have a look when it comes back online.

not many of us can help you with what you ask as it isnt something many of us need so very few of us have done it...

if you carry through with it,,itd be nice for you to come back and write a thread on what you did,,mistakes you made,,and conclusions and results/yield you recieved.

good luck
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Old 2004-01-23, 21:01
OZs2KEYs OZs2KEYs is offline
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Default Re: H3PO3 from Fertilizer Q's..

Well swims friend said that when useing LG H3PO3 the results were great, never got less than a 50% return, even when dreaming 1g, and never had a problem, even with the first time out, and it was the only way he ever tried it, with no hands on teaching.

When i find this info for swim, i'll post back on the findings and results of if he belived it was better to just ball up and order it and become a little paranoid or to get it from fertizer.
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Old 2004-01-23, 21:23
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Order it. It's gonna be too late before you know it.

Jam.
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Old 2004-01-24, 08:34
Gordon853 Gordon853 is offline
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Default Re: H3PO3 from Fertilizer Q's..

Isn't H3PO3 watched by Big Brother? Swim is scared as hell of ordering any chemical. Anyone have opinions on the safety of ordering various chemicals?
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Old 2004-01-24, 09:00
kirby kirby is offline
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Default Re: H3PO3 from Fertilizer Q's..

every chemical has a different opinion,,

be specific
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Old 2004-01-24, 09:38
Gordon853 Gordon853 is offline
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Default Re: H3PO3 from Fertilizer Q's..

Specifically H3PO3. Is it watched in the U.S.? Is there any way to find out whether it is safe to order it?
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Old 2004-01-24, 10:15
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Default Re: H3PO3 from Fertilizer Q's..

what did your last slave die of.



Identification Codes for Listed Chemicals – List I Chemicals

The following section presents the DEA Code, the Harmonized Code, and the Chemical Abstract Number for List I and List II chemicals. Note that individual salts, isomers, esters, salts of esters, and salts of isomers have unique Chemical Abstract Numbers.

List I Chemicals



Chemical

DEA Code

New Harmonized Code

Chemical Abstract Number



N-Acetylanthranilic acid and its salts and esters

8522

2924.29.7590

[89-52-1]



Anthranilic acid and its salts and esters

8530

2922.43.0000

[118-92-3]



Benzaldehyde

8256

2912.21.0000

[100-52-7]



Benzyl cyanide

8735

2926.90.4700

[140-29-4]



Ephedrine and its salts, optical isomers, and salts of optical isomers

8113

2939.41.0000

[299-42-3]



Ergonovine and its salts (Tariff name:Ergometrine)

8675

2939.61.0000

[60-79-7]



Ergotamine and its salts

8676

2939.62.0000

[113-15-5]



Ethylamine and its salts

8678

2921.19.1000

[75-04-7]



Gamma-butyrolactone

2011

2932.29.5010

[96-48-0]



Hydriodic acid (57%)

6695

2811.19.6050

[10034-85-2]



Isosafrole

8704

2932.91.0000

[120-58-1]



Methylamine and its salts

8520

2921.11.0000

[74-89-5]



3, 4-Methylenedioxyphenyl-2-propanone (Tariff name: 1-(1,3-benzodioxol-5-yl)-2-propanone)

8502

2932.92.0000

4676-39-5]



N-Methylephedrine and its salts, optical isomers, and salts of optical isomers

8115

2939.49.0000

[522-79-4]



N-Methylpseudoephedrine and its salts, optical isomers, and salts of optical isomers

8119

2939.49.0000

[14222-20-9]



Nitroethane

6724

2904.90.0000

[79-24-3]



Norpseudoephedrine and its salts, optical isomers, and salts of optical isomers

8317

2939.49.0000

[429-39-7]



Phenylacetic acid and its salts and esters

8791

2916.34.1000

[103-82-2]



Phenylpropanolamine and its salts, optical isomers, and salts of optical isomers

1225

2939.49.0000

[14838-15-4]



Piperidine and its salts

2704

2933.32.1000

[110-89-4]



Piperonal

8750

2932.93.0000

[120-57-0]



Propionic anhydride

8328

2915.50.5000

[123-62-6]



Pseudoephedrine and its salts, optical isomers, and salts of optical isomers

8112

2939.42.0000

[90-84-2]



Safrole (includes safrole-rich essential oils, such as sassafras oil and camphor oil 1070)

8323

2932.94.0000

[94-59-7]



Red Phosphorus

6795

2804.70.0000

[7723-14-0]



White Phosphorus

6796

2804.70.0000

[7723-14-0]



Hypophosphorus acid and its salts

6797

2811.19.6050

[6303-21-5]



Appendix A

Identification Codes for Listed Chemicals – List II Chemicals

The following section presents the DEA Code, the Harmonized Code, and the Chemical Abstract Number for List II chemicals. Note that individual salts, isomers, esters, salts of esters, and salts of isomers have unique Chemical Abstract Numbers.

List II Chemicals



Chemical

DEA Code

New Harmonized Code

Chemical Abstract Number



Acetic anhydride

8519

2915.24.0000

[108-24-7]



Acetone

6532

2914.11.1000/

2914.11.5000

[67-64-1]



Benzyl chloride

8570

2903.69.2000

[100-44-7]



Ethyl ether

6584

2909.11.0000

[60-29-7]



Hydrogen chloride

6545

2806.10.0000

[7647-01-0]



Iodine

6699

2801.20.0000

[7553-56-2]



Methyl ethyl ketone (2-Butanone)

6714

2914.12.0000

[78-93-3]



Methyl isobutyl ketone (MIBK)

6715

2914.13.0000

[108-10-1]



Potassium permanganate

6579

2841.61.0000

[7722-64-7]



Sulfuric acid

6552

2807.00.0000

[7664-93-9]



Toluene

6594

2902.30.0000

[108-88-3]

Special Surveillance List of Chemicals, Products, Materials and Equipment Used in the Clandestine Production of Controlled Substances or Listed Chemicals

Background

The Comprehensive Methamphetamine Control Act of 1996 (MCA) makes it unlawful for any person to distribute a laboratory supply to a person who uses, or attempts to use, that laboratory supply to manufacture a controlled substance or a listed chemical, with reckless disregard for the illegal uses to which such laboratory supply will be put. Individuals who violate this provision are subject to a civil penalty of not more than $25,000; businesses which violate this provision are subject to a civil penalty of not more than $250,000. The term "laboratory supply" is defined as "a listed chemical or any chemical, substance, or item on a special surveillance list published by the Attorney General, which contains chemicals, products, materials, or equipment used in the manufacture of controlled substances and listed chemicals."

Special Surveillance List

Chemicals

All listed chemicals as specified in 21 CFR § 1310.02 (a) or (b) or 21 U.S.C. § 802 (34) or (35). This includes all chemical mixtures and all over-the-counter (OTC) products and dietary supplements which contain a listed chemical, regardless of their dosage form or packaging and regardless of whether the chemical mixture, drug product or dietary supplement is exempt from regulatory controls.

Ammonia Gas

Ammonium Formate

Bromobenzene

1,1-Carbonyldiimidazole

Cyclohexanone

1,1-Dichloro-1-fluoroethane (e.g., Freon 141B)

Diethylamine and its salts

2,5-Dimethoxyphenethylamine and its salts

Formamide

Formic Acid

Hypophosphorous Acid

Lithium Metal

Lithium Aluminum Hydride

Magnesium Metal (Turnings)

Mercuric Chloride

N-Methylformamide

Organomagnesium Halides (Grignard Reagents) (e.g., ethylmagnesium bromide and phenyl-magnesium bromide)

Phenylethanolamine and its salts

Phosphorus Pentachloride

Potassium Dichromate

Pyridine and its salts

Red Phosphorus

Sodium Dichromate

Sodium Metal

Thionyl Chloride

ortho-Toluidine

Trichloromonofluoromethane (e.g., Freon-11, Carrene-2)

Trichlorotrifluoroethane (e.g., Freon 113)

Equipment

Hydrogenators

Tableting Machines

Encapsulating Machines

22 Liter Heating Mantels

Additional Information

The Special Surveillance List appeared as a Final Notice in the Federal Register on May 13, 1999. A Correction to the Final Notice appeared in the Federal Register on September 17, 1999.



[This message has been edited by kirby (edited 01-24-2004).]
 #9 
Old 2004-01-25, 12:06
bucky wingwing bucky wingwing is offline
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Default Re: H3PO3 from Fertilizer Q's..

Ozkey, foliar spray is what you want.

Used for root rot and other things plently round in Oz.

It will need to contain aqueous di-potassium

phosphonate and mono-potassium phosphonate in the region of 400g/litre. swim has a stock pile but not extracted yet.method is simple and well known just Use The Fucken Search Engine for method.
 
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