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#1
 2004-01-19, 23:18
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zynko 
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DMT Spirit Molecule
Has anyone here heard somthing wierd about DMT. I heard stuff like when tooken at a certain does for some people, that there faces distort for a little bit as if they were in a wind tunnel. If this is true, what and where do i get the stuff to extract it?
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#2
 2004-01-19, 23:56
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Re: DMT Spirit Molecule
Have you read DMT: The Spirit Molecule by Rick Strassman, M.D.?
If not, it is worth checking out. The info I could share would be summarizations on his work... therefore, I'd suggest going to the source. And plus... Alex Grey's book cover artwork is always nice... (He also did the cd artwork for Tool - Lateralus)
Peace,
G.R.
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#3
 2004-01-20, 01:27
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Re: DMT Spirit Molecule
various plants can be used to extract dmt.
just try a wordsearch with following plant names:
mimosa hostillis
psychotria viridis
acacia maidenii
acacia obtusifolia
acacia phlebophylla = very endangered species
phalaris arundinacea
phalaris spp.
phragmites australis
and many others some even native to the u.s.
[This message has been edited by plantcarer (edited 01-21-2004).]
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#4
 2004-01-20, 03:08
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Re: DMT Spirit Molecule
actually most of those contain 5-Meo-DMT, not DMT. There is a huge difference. the 5-meo-dmt is much more uncomfortable than the regular dmt and much stronger. a lot of people dont like dmt, and even more people than that dont like 5meodmt. if you havent done it before i would suggest trying something else a little less strong to start with.
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#5
 2004-01-20, 03:09
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acidmelt 
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Re: DMT Spirit Molecule
and to find out what you will need for extractions then read about a/b of organic matter.
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#6
 2004-01-20, 04:58
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plantcarer 
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Re: DMT Spirit Molecule
no, most of them contain only dmt!
viridis for example is a very clean dmt source. the phalaris and phragmites contain 5-meo-dmt and bufotenin aswell true, but stay away from those anyway because they contain gramin which is hard to remove and will make you sick.
australiens use acacia obtusifolia (bark or phyllodes) and maidenii.
the rest of you, get hostillis bark from brazil.
pm me, if you look for bark!
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#7
 2004-01-20, 05:13
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plantcarer 
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Re: DMT Spirit Molecule
hmm, @ acidmelt you obviously dont know much about dmt plants other wise you would not have posted an answere like you did.
u make it sound like my list is wrong, but i tell you just because some body asks for "dmt" those plants will not change there alkaloid profile for you!!!
all dmt plants contain a mixture of actives,
and the one containing mostly dmt are the ones i mentioned, there are NO better ones.
acacia phlebophylla is the best in this regard, it allmost only contains dmt as major alkaloid. but this plant is very threatend to be extinct soon.
aswell viridis is used in ayahuasca brews, because it contains n,n-dmt but no 5meo!
do your homework befor,
criticising my post!
pm me if u look for bark!
[This message has been edited by plantcarer (edited 01-20-2004).]
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#8
 2004-01-20, 16:54
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acidmelt 
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Re: DMT Spirit Molecule
yeah i dont know shit about drugs,,, your right. actually of the list you posted a few of them cant even be considered viable since they are almost extinct, of the other 5 that you posted... 3 of them are 5-Meo-Dmt. so most (being over 50%) of the plants that you posted are 5-Meo-DMT... not including the few that would be impossible to get of course.
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#9
 2004-01-20, 17:08
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Re: DMT Spirit Molecule
lol!!
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#10
 2004-01-21, 01:46
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plantcarer 
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Re: DMT Spirit Molecule
what ever hoot's your tooter!
i add
desmanthus illinoensis
to the list, because its a native to
your country!
if you want bark,
e-mail me!
dr_hc_feelgood@yahoo.com
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#11
 2004-01-21, 02:48
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Re: DMT Spirit Molecule
Man it ain't that often at all I see someone challenge you AM.
But my moneys on you Bro. Always.
Just felt like I had to say that with hopes of not imposing here.
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#12
 2004-01-21, 05:58
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plantcarer 
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Re: DMT Spirit Molecule
not a challenge at all,
AM knows about stuff, i dont know about,
i learned a lot here,
no doubt!
and i respect the rules.
I know about plants and growing them,
i tried to help and still believe,
its a good list.
might add:
arundo donax= dmt and crap (bufo&5meO).
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