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Old 2004-01-16, 09:46
chemist2wannabe chemist2wannabe is offline
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Default would this ice synthesis work?

The production and purification of pseudoepehdrine free base

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Buy sudafed capsules; the more the merrier!

Method: Take 10 sudafed capsules apart, and place the little round granules

into a clean dish. These granules contain the pseudoephedrine hydrochloride

and inorganic filler. Crush the granules until they are no more than a very

fine powder. I suggest using the 100 milligram capsules at this point.

Approximate end yield will be roughly 1 gram of product.

Place 100 mls of room temperature water into the extraction funnel,

and CAREFULLY add all of the powdder into the funnel. Place a cap on the

funnel, invert, and open the stopcock. MAKE SURE YOU ARE WEARING YOUR SAFETY

GOGGLES AT THIS POINT! Swirl the funnel around to dissolve the material.

There will be a significant amount of undissolved white powder; do not be

concerned, this is inorganic filler. After 10 mins of shaking, dip a glass

rod into the liquid and touch the drop on the tip of the stirring rod to a

piece of moist BLUE litmus paper. The litmus paper should turn red where it

has been touched. This means that the solution is acidic, and that a

significant proportion of the pseudoephedrine hydrochloride has in fact

dissolved in the water. If the litmus paper has turned red, you can go on to

the next step. If not, repeat he shaking 5 more minutes until the litmus

paper does turn red.

Add 50 mls of diethyl ether to the separation funnel. BE VERY CAREFUL AT THIS

STAGE. MAKE SURE YOU ARE WORKING IN A WELL VENTILATED AREA AND PLEASE DON'T

DO SOMETHING FUCKING STUPID LIKE SMOKE CIGARETTES OR YOU DESERVE WHAT WILL

HAPPEN! YOU DESERVE TO GET LUNG CANCER OR HAVE YOUR FUCKING FACE BLOWN OFF!

The diethyl ether is less dense than the water solution and will float on top.

Add 10 mls of the 1 molar sodium hydroxide, cap the funnel, invert and

IMMEDIATELY release the stopcock to vent off the gas that forms. Point the

end of the funnel AWAY from your eyes! Periodically swirl and vent the funnel

to release any gas. When no more gas is given off after venting, draw off a

little of the liquid from the lower layer into a thimble. Test it with a piece

of moist RED litmus paper. If it stays red, add 10 more mls of the sodium

hydroxide solution, invert funnel, swirl and vent until no more gas is given

off. Repeat this UNTIL the red litmus paper turns blue. At this stage, the

water solution is basic, the pseudoephedrine hydrochloride is in the free base

form, and is located entirely within the diethyl ether layer.

Draw off the lower water layer and discard it. Pour off the ether

layer into a beaker with 10 grams of anhydrous sodium sulfate. The sodium

sulfate is a drying agent and will remove most of the water that is in the

ether solution (very little really since ether is non polar and water is very

polar). Cap the beaker with a piece of saran wrap and let it sit in a well

ventilated COOL area overnite (not the fridge). Don't smoke within 2 miles of

this. Ether is FLAMMABLE and forms EXPLOSIVE peroxides which tend to

spontaneously detonate.

Decant off the ether into a dry round bottom flask. Heat this flask

over a pot of very hot water. This will take only a few minutes to evaporate.

You will be left with a clear syrupy liquid that looks like childrens tylenol

drops. This is the pure pseudoephedrine free base. If you have a death wish,

you can try some now (scoop it up with a spoon, a toothpick, etc). Swallow

it, or put it on a cigarette and smoke it. I don't care. You're stupid if you

do.



Production of methylamphetamine free base

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Add the 95% ethanol or everclear drop by drop until the sludge is

dissolved. It should go into solution very easily. I doubt it if many people

will be able to get 100% ethanol, but the purer the better, since trace

amounts of water inhibit the next step in the preparation.

Total volume should not exceed 50 mls at this point. You can make

the solution up to 50 mls if you wish. VERY carefully add 1 gram of sodium

borohydride to the solution, add the relux condensor to the top of the round

bottom flask, and start to boil the mixture (eg, on a hot plate...NOT on an

open flame. The cold water going thru the reflux condensor will keep the

ethanol from evaporating, yet the high temperature of the reaction vessel will

allow the reaction to go forward as desired. Let this go for about 4 hours.

Take away from the hot plate and let cool slowly to room temperature.

AFTER the solution has cooled to room temperature, add 50 mls of

saturated salt solution. At this point, you should see little oil drops

floating on the surface of the liquid. This is methylamphetamine. Add 50 mls

of diethyl ether to the COOLED flask( room temperature is ok ). Transfer the

contents to a separatory funnel, cap, invert, and IMMEDIATELY open the

stopcock. Some gas will escape. Close the stopcock, gently swirl, and open to

vent off and gas. Repeat until no more pressure developes after 5-10 seconds

of gentle agitation.

Draw off the lower layer and set aside for a moment. Drain the upper

ether layer into a beaker containing 10 grams of sodium sulfate. Add the layer

that you had set aside BACK to the separatory funnel, and add another 50 mls

of ether. Cap, invert, vent, etc until NO more pressure developes. Drain off

the lower water layer and discard. Drain the ether layer into the beaker with

the first portion of ether. Cover this with saran wrap and let sit over nite.

Decant the ether solution into a clean beaker and gently heat this

over very hot water. As the ether evaporates( please use good ventilation ),

you will be left with a beige sludge. This beige sludge is methylamphetamine.

You can do two things at this stage; i) Prepare 'glass' for smoking or

freebasing (very fucking stupid), or prepare crystal meth for shooting up

(very very fucking stupid).



i) if you want to prepare solid ice, stick the beaker in the freezer,

and hope that crystal formation starts. If it doesn't, take 5 or 6

chemistry course and you'll learn where you fucked up.

ii) if you want to prepare `crystal' for shooting up, dissolve the beige

ice in about 10 mls of anhydrous (very dry) diethyl ether. Add ethereal

HCL drop by drop. After each drop, you'll see a little white suspension

form. This is methylamphetamine hydrochloride. Add ethereal HCL until

no more white powder forms. You could then decant off any ether, and

let the powder dry on tinfoil or whatever. This should be 90% pure.

Reliabilty of this synthetic method: It works, and in a lab, you can go from

starting material to finished product in about 8 hours IF you know what

you're doing (and you probably don't). To the best of my knowledge, this has

never been published, but the general reaction scheme of catalyic

hydrogenolysis is well documented. At ALL stages, glassware should be kept

very dry.
 #2 
Old 2004-01-16, 19:41
Speddy Eddy Speddy Eddy is offline
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Default Re: would this ice synthesis work?

yea,it would.
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Old 2004-01-16, 22:49
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Default Re: would this ice synthesis work?

I had to re-read this man before I expended a flame on your behalf. But I caught on to the freebase methodology at hand and saw what is at hand here. I will give you much props on the diethyl ether mandatory pre-cautionaries. Acetone and diethyl ether combustions are the top two main causes for clandestine lab explosions/incinerations. But you need to re-read this yourself and see that you left out vital components to make this a complete outline of methodology at hand. I'm guessing this was due to being mega-torqued, but please edit this and include the left-out compnents so as to give a better and concise picture of what you've got on the table to offer here.



quote:Don't smoke within 2 miles of

this. Ether is FLAMMABLE and forms EXPLOSIVE peroxides which tend to

spontaneously detonate.

This is no bullshit man. Plus the vapor-trails linger at ground levels.



quote:Add ethereal

HCLWhat is this?! Judging by your refrencing methylamphetamineI'm guessing you don't live Stateside.



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[This message has been edited by Jamiroquai (edited 01-16-2004).]
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Old 2004-01-17, 02:29
madchemist madchemist is offline
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Default Re: would this ice synthesis work?

Damn thats wierd, I just mentioned NaBH4 in another thread just as a spontaneous thought, and then here this is, a suggested metal hydride reduction. I wonder if it will reduce the pseudo directly, although your better off trying to reduce an ester with it.
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Old 2004-01-17, 02:36
madchemist madchemist is offline
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Oh yeah but a lot of that shit at the end about the meth freebase and shit is bullshit. The majority of meth used whether injected, smoked, snorted, or eaten is in the form of the hydrochloride salt. Freebase meth is an oil, it will never crystallize unless you cool it far enough. Which doesn't really form crystals, and turns back to oil when removed from the cold. Also, I dunno about smoking meth freebase oil, but as far as eating goes it didn't have quite the effect (barely any at all) of the salt form. SWIM tried some freebase before while steam distilling, just out of curiosity. It irritates your lips and tongue and tastes god-awefull. It tastes exactly like it smells, like dead fish that had some ammonia poured all over it, with extreme bitterness. Not something SWIM has repeated.
 
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