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Laboratory Tips Safety proceedures, test reagents, drilling rubber stoppers, bending glass tubes, etc. Contributed to by chemists.

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Old 2004-01-06, 15:27
Infosponge Infosponge is offline
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erm...I've bin reading again...good 4 me...right!?!

Ok...right or wrong and why...

E/I2/RP...1/1.2/1...after 8-12 hours with no dh20...ready?

Should heat be added as a preference and how hot in deg C (50-80C?)

Signs to look for...
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Old 2004-01-06, 16:16
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what have you been reading...

12 grams of e

4 grams of red

12 grams of i

3 ml of dnh2o

first 4hrs, temp is aroung 65c

last 4 temp is 75c

youll get good gear after the 8 hours,,

but most think 24 to 36 hours creates the best,,

myself,,

i wouldnt have a fuckin clue,,

im a man,

i dance with ammonia and metal...
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Old 2004-01-06, 21:56
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quote:E/I2/RP...1/1.2/1...after 8-12 hours with no dh20...ready?You will a drop or two of water. The ratios are a-ok.

quote:Should heat be added as a preference and how hot in deg C (50-80C?)not sure what you mean by as a preference, but shoot for 60C-95C.

And signs to look for is oily honey is an substance thatwhen tilted in flask so as to get on the flasks wall the oily substance is runny and not sticking to the wall like it did and does while it's first reducing/reacting. The honey will turn a golden-yelow color you can't miss. Also, the RP will sort-of "drop" and applying a higher heat no longer causes bubbling and a noticeable reacting of the precursors inside. Don't rely on how it smells and in a nutshell that's about it.

Jam.

[This message has been edited by Jamiroquai (edited 01-06-2004).]
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Old 2004-01-07, 02:38
kirby kirby is offline
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jam

are you saying the ratio is

12 grams of eph

1 gram of red

1.2 grams of I
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Old 2004-01-07, 03:24
Wicked_Rain Wicked_Rain is offline
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nowhere does sponge say anything about 12 of anything. he is asking about the ratios E-1 gram/I2-1.2 grams/RP-1 gram

look at it again lol

to answer the question now. yes those are good ratios for match book RP.

if you had lab grade RP the ratios would be

E-1 gram/I2-1.2 grams/RP-0.3 grams

this has been covered a million times SWIM typed it just yesterday in another thread.

as far as the water go`s SWIM has found that 0.5 ml per gram of E is the bare minimum on that long of a cook with 0.7 ml being the maximum for that length of cook. those water ratios are figuring on your precursors being bone dry. if you choose to use damp I2 and shit then SWIM dont have a clue as he drys all his shit bone fuckin dry so he dont have to guess at the water amount.

chuckles at the real man comment by kirby
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Old 2004-01-07, 03:39
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wicked

E/12/RP...1/1.2/1

i read that as

12g of e

1g of red

1.2 of i
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Old 2004-01-07, 05:00
Infosponge Infosponge is offline
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kewl...thanks for the Info!
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Old 2004-01-07, 05:31
kirby kirby is offline
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talk about word blindness

ok i see it now
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Old 2004-01-07, 08:26
Wicked_Rain Wicked_Rain is offline
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lol i could tell you had a eye-typo kirby

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Old 2004-01-07, 16:13
acidmelt acidmelt is offline
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E/12/RP...1/1.2/1

i read that as

12g of e

1g of red

1.2 of i

hmmm i dont see how that was read as 12g of E.... am i missing something?
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Old 2004-01-07, 20:03
kman kman is offline
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AM, you put 12 instead of I2, but it's easy to see how both you and Kirby could make the mistake, because 12 looks a lot like I2.
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Old 2004-01-08, 00:39
acidmelt acidmelt is offline
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OHH I see now,,, sorry.
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Old 2004-01-08, 07:58
RNX57 RNX57 is offline
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swim had to take a double take when read first time.
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Old 2004-01-09, 13:03
chiselwac chiselwac is offline
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3/3 to 3.5/1 E/I2/RP(ratios preceeding not weights).... Depending on how much you gonna burn.... Did a 980g other night, put H2O on it 112 minutes later. Although disappointingly enough only got a little over 300 back on first pull. Shakin' is a bitch, bout time to go back to gassin.
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Old 2004-01-09, 13:13
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SWIAs personal preference has always been titrating but to each there own.
 
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