to start off, swim was given rp still soakin in jar, filtered, dryed it, then tone washed it few times n hot dh2o it as a final n dryed it. was given dg green box 60's, soaked in denatured alchol till clear, filtered n dryed on stove till pinwheeled, tone flashed n scrapped it up. while drying rp in oven on lowest settin ( electric stove) swim decided to put suse in on a filter to dry it up good, went to sleep for bout 3 hrs, rp was nice n dry, but suse took on a tint of yellow look. hopen it wasent ruined by 120 degree heat.

made 7 grams cry io outa tin 2%, did the usuall, crystals crshed out, poured off most through a filter, added cold dh2o into jar, swirled n poured off most of dh2o through filter, washed 4 or so times. squished, wrung out,put in jar with dryed epsoms. all in little light of course.

time comes, swim addes suse, cry io some what dry, mabey a tad moist, swirled it together, it clumps up a bit, put flask on ice water while swim weights out rp, swim used 7 g's of suse, 7 g's of cry io, and 4 g's of rp. drop in rp, mixed it without any dh2o added, io starts meltin, mixin in good, rxn starts, little smoke, kinda a slow easy rxn. warm it slightly with bic lighter, it bubbles nice n shiny, thick mud, added two drops with eye dropper of dh2o. put it on 150 degree oil bath. 2 hrs later added a g or so of rp, nother hr at round 200. smelled good. took off bath added 1/2 the volume in hot-hot dh2o, rp falls right out, fluid is clear with a slight tint of yellow, boiled it for 5 min, filtered out rp, put fluid in pull jar, added some colemans, lyed to white floatys ( shoots). added some more colemans ( given to swim as swim likes naptha n never tryed colemans) swirled, now swims colemans is blue??, added a bit more lye n tryed a pull, gassed n got nothin, not even a cloudy np?. ok so swim figures ph is not up there. adds more lye till close to locked (a bit thick) more colemans, more blue, let sit, pulled n gassed,, notta damn thing, now swims losen hope, tryed dryin colemans on stove to see if theres anything in it,,,, notta, a blue slimy oil is all thats left in pyrex??, now swim has a jar with a small amount of coles on top, a lye layer under that, and water layer under that and wondering wtf to do with it. swim believes the shits there, or something is there, ido-e or ido-m, or cleaner suse, mabey good meth. but cant get it with colemans. plannin on gettin some naptha to try a pull, more muratic to gas with or even try a water pull.

any thoughts or suggestion welcome,

flameing encouraged,,,,lol.

bee safe n peace out

PS, swim has had good luck with a 1-3-3 mix usen 1/2 the weight of suse in dh2o, usen naptha and gassin, what went wrong swim dont know, could have been a couple diff things, swim going back to da basics in next dream, lest swim made out on free mb-rp, which is being washed again n a muratic soak this time round. also have a tinted yellow, very bitter suse,,, how or what way should swim use to further clean this up?

RNX57

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quote:was given dg green box 60's, soaked in denatured alchol till clear, filtered n dryed on stove till pinwheeled, tone flashed n scrapped it up. <----Is this the only clean-up that was done to the pseudo?! Just an alcohol-pull?! If so, the road to defeat started here!!

quote:but suse took on a tint of yellow look. hopen it wasent ruined by 120 degree heat.

Yes. Very possible. The cystaline structure of the pure pseudo is degraded and deformed into a plausible unfit crystaline structure which is unable to properly reduce down to D. But after reading the whole story here I'm almost quite certain the culprit is gakk from your apparent alcohol-pull for the pseudo and the lack of doing a proper gakk-patrol on the pseudo. But burning never makes for even mediocre yields so you had two-strikesagainst you straight out of the gate.



quote:added some more colemans ( given to swim as swim likes naptha n never tryed colemans) swirled, now swims colemans is blue??Sounds like gakk

quote:a blue slimy oil is all thats left in pyrexHas to be gakk. Very much so. Perhaps the pseudo was damaged to begin with and the gakk got super-imposed in with it from melting into one big bunch of shite.

SWIM's has used colemans in the past and it always turned blue too. Don't know why it turns colors that way but it sure helps when siphoning off.

After the alcohol pull and filtering, was the liquid clear or milky looking? SWIM knows that DG 60's are full of wax and buffers so SWIM suggests when filtering putting a cotton ball in the funnel along with a bunch of coffee filters stacked on top.

You really shouldn't use coleman. That blue you see is a rust inhibitor.

hey thanks Jam, swim wonders if swim trys the hot IPA n tone to recrystalize after denatured washin n dryin, would that produce clean enough effie, swims heard (ppl) say they just wash with o2, but dont believe it as swim knows this cant be clean enough for rp/io rxn, also could recrystalizeing swims yellow tinted left overs from last dream make this useable, or does swim chuck it and in future do a denatured pull n dry, then recrystalize via hot ipa n tone, does the ipa need to be annhydrous?, tone allready is. got supplys today, naptha, good muratic, denatured, tone, buck a box 60's from dg, 99% ipa, only could dream 3- 1 oz bottles of 2% tin, get some tomorrow, swims gonna denatural new 60's, then recrystalize that, wont touch old stuff till swim hears something from ya Jam. swim has done rxn with suse cleaned with denatured only and had good dream, but recrystalizeing sounds easy to be sure it clean.

anything else from da fellas is welcome.

going to soak rp in muratic to clean it further, as rp is allmost unfindable here in hicksville usa, got lucky bein given 20+ g of rp, and will rinse io extra good.would resubliming be a wise choice to learn in next dream?



thanks jam, u make a great mod.

rnx57

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its a good idea to make all your shit anhydrous cause its easier to evap when it is plus it only costs pocket change and in his opinion is well worth the time...swim does it automatically when he gets his

you have 99% ipa which swim would think it would be good enough but hes sure it wouldnt hurt to throw a little in..

p.s. have you tried tce/japan dryer for your suedo

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no swim havent tryed the jap/tc deal, we have a napa around here, not sure if swim can find jap dryer. but it sounds rough to do from what swim read but swim will try to find that and try it out.

thanks sitinbckchillin for ya input, same to anyone with input as swim gotta refine to cleaner than normal swim guess's

rnx57

The TCE/JD cleaning is much easier than many other ways of cleaning, and swim definitely likes it better than boiling flammable solvents that can ignite spontaneously!

great point k-man, swim while look for tce and jap dryer in morning and reread wicked's post on use, wonder if denatured washin n dryin, then recrystalizen it via hot ipa and tone in freezer would get suse close to useable since swim got everything for that.

thanks all

rnx57

Rxn - ried the tc/jap dryer method and believe me swim will tell u it is not as hard as sounds. was dubious, but told to follow to the letter and if u do u will be happy. any paint store carries the jap dryer.

hats off to all who pointed swim in that directioin!!!

thanks squirrelyone, swims gonna go do some lookin first thing in morning, n will do as wrote by wicked. glad u said it not as bad as it sounds, swim wants the cleanest suse he can get, gots no time for another learn n lose batch.

ps: can swim find tech whatever at napa store? it has to be the only ingredent on the back of can righto.

rnx57

quote:also could recrystalizeing swims yellow tinted left overs from last dream make this useableRecrystalizing doesn't clean anything. It just makes the crystals form with more conformity. I wouldn't suggest using the burnt pseudo as it is unlikely able to reduce properly or effectively.



quote:but recrystalizeing sounds easy to be sure it clean.

Again, throw out the misconception here that recrystalizing cleans up anything. Tone should be of considerations if this is what is needed(cleaning-up).

quote:would resubliming be a wise choice to learn in next dream?

Resubliming would be a wise choice. Also, buy you a roll of waxpaper for iodine-doings. You will learn with a quickness that it is your best friend here and clean-up is a snap. But yes. Resubliming is a very wise choice for every dream. Like Dad used to always say:"Son, if somethings worth doing, it's worth doing right!"



Turns out he he ain't just whistling Dixie!!

Jam.

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great, swim was under assumption that recrystalizing left all junk in tone. going to do the tce/jap cleaner, anyone need 10 bucks worth of denatured, lol

going now to search for resublimeing iodine from tin.

thanks again Jam, ur knowledge is invauluable, and free is hard to believe, if ya lived round here swim would even up wiff ya

rnx57

swim dont know if napa has was your looking for but swim knows autoslut does

tetrachloroethylene and carbon dioxide thats it no exeptions or subs

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understood, thanks sitin. hopen napy gots it, or its a 20 min ride to nearest area that may have it. got another question for anyone, swim opened used rp filter and it sure smells like d_pe, would it? even if the suse was burnt a bit?, smell alone makes swims dink hard, thinkin of tryin a pull with napths to see if anything will come of it,, damn shit smells soooooo goooood.

gawd swim hates good smellin , bad dreams.

rnx57



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