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Old 2004-01-03, 23:36
moonmeister moonmeister is offline
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Default Proper Etiquette for Buying at a Lab Store

Being as da Man may hassle Lab Stuff Eqipment

Dealers; what are good tips for being very

cool & professional when buying?

Even buying filter paper #1>5, should I wear

a baseball cap pulled low & sweats? A good

suit & fedora? Shades? Shiny shoes?



Though, I could order online. Fisher Science

only needs a small degree to figure out their

online cat. Why for instance are their dumb

funnels listing paper sizes in mm; while the

paper is listed in cm? What just divide the

mm by 2.5 or what?

Do I really want to order a 6 pack of funnels?

Maybe I'll just stick local.



[This message has been edited by moonmeister (edited 01-04-2004).]
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Old 2004-01-04, 01:39
kirby kirby is offline
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Default Re: Proper Etiquette for Buying at a Lab Store

Chapter 13

LYING

swims feels that the best criminals are born great liars.

swim knows he was born with the ability to lie and appear

very sincere.

the people whom you must lie to, when you choose to be a

meth cook could easily be stated as everyone

swim would like to share with you some of the lies he told.

swim returned from working offshore, 3 days later goes

down to company workshop and cleans returned diving

gear, at lunch time he borrows the work truck saying he

needs to pick up a chest of drawers for his wife.

he is dressed in work overalls with badges on shoulders and

back,red wings work boots,heavy anchor link gold chain,

rolex, has short hair, clean shaven, no earings or tattoos,

work clipboard with work stationary.

he arrives at the gas supply business and choose a dopey

looking counter hand,,says he wants to open an account,

the clerk begins to fill out the paper work and asks swim what

he needs

swim states his company does marine engineering work, that they have

4 prawn trawlers coming in from the exmouth gulf and they

need there wiring stripped out and replaced,,and there

refrigeration needs servicing,,that they first need anhydrous

ammonia to flush and scale the refrigeration stainless steel

tubing after it has been welded, and later we will need the

freon to fill it.

he signs the account form putting down his address as the

mailing address,,goes outside and watches them load a 34kilo

container of anhydrous into the company truck,,he drops the

anhydrous at his home and goes back to work

next day he borrows the truck again,,dressed the same, drives

to a lab supply business and parks where the office staff can

see company logo on truck

goes inside and asks for a catelogue and the forms to start an

account,,explains that his boss isnt happy with (name there

competition) and wishes to start trading with them

he fills out paperwork and opens an account,,purchases ph

papers and sulphuric acid,,pays out of a company envelope

with (lab and office consumables--petty cash $200) written

on it,,under that is welding gloves$19 and a new figure of

$181,,then 6mm iron powder welding rods $48,,with new figure

$133,,now in front of the receptionist write ph and acid with

the price next to it,,deduct that from the total and write new

total

over the next 3 months he buys a lot of glass ware and bits

and pieces,,he has catelogue so begins faxing orders through

with right serial number from the catelogue,,he adds 4 x 250

gram can sodium metal

when he goes to the lab company in a week to pick up order

one of the chem guys comes downstairs and asks him why

he wants it,,swim states they have 11 tons of stainless steel

equipment coming in from offshore and they mix the metal

in a bath with acids ,,immerse the equipment in the bath and it

scales the stainless,,chem guy said ok and went back upstairs

swim still has both these accounts to this day

swim feels that lying is another skill that you must have,

all good criminals can lie to there mother looking her in the

eye,,if you cant lie,,find a new job

and lets define lying,,,if people minded there own business,,

then you wouldnt have to lie to them,,why is it wrong to

lie to a nosy inquisitive person who asks questions they

have no right to

why is it wrong to lie to a person who asks questions like,,

where did the gear come from,,or,,how much can you get

mind you,,the wife does have the right to ask him where he is

going,,,and swim is an arsehole for saying he is going over to

help bung when in fact he is spending the night with a lady

gardener

sometimes its better to say nothing than to lie,,or put an

expression on your face that makes people know not to ask

those types of questions again

always maintain eye contact when you do lie..

never lie and smile at the same time.

when lying,,lead him away from the lie with another part of

the story eg,,,when swim was asked about why he needed the

anhydrous ammonia,,he spoke of prawn trawlers,,and exmouth

gulf,,and all the electrical wiring,,and the need to strip it out

and replace it,,of welding pin prick holes in the stainless

tubing,,then how he needed it for scaling,,and finally how he

needed freon to refill it

this gives him much to think on,,he has to process all that,,

and then he gets the why,,when done correctly it is a very

decieving way to lie

always weave 95% fact with your little bit of bullshit..

whenever possible,,have another person with you whom

appears honest and disinterested in whats being said,,but

when asked,,confirms the lie 100%

whenever possible have the extras with you,,eg;,,the right

clothes,,stationary,,vehicle,,updated history knowledge,,

the right look, short hair,clean etc etc

learn to lie without opening your mouth,,,if your a wealthy

drug lord,,and you wish to pass yourself off as a worker,,

learn to do it from your appearance

dont buy something with 100 dollar bills if yourve just told

him your a labourer

if you say your a labourer and you havent done a days work

in your life,,dont let him see your hands,,,

if you say yourve just come from work,,,roll in the dirt and

rub muck into your hands

if you get the background and appearance right,, 9 out of ten

times they dont even ask the questions requiring you to lie

always downplay who you are,,dont do the drug drop off in

your new BMW convertible

dont ever let anyone ever see your guns,,

if you wear them,,

hide them well,,,

and if you wear them,,

wear two

dont ever go to a fight without your guns,,i dont care if the

rules are no weapons,,fuck the rules,,there is only one rule,

he who wins makes the rules

if your not prepared to pull a gun,,

dont wear it..

if you pull a gun,aim and fire within half a second..

many a wanker has pulled a gun,with the intention of frightening someone,,to have it taken off them,,,and used on them

when questioned by those whom dont matter,,learn to say

one thing,,and do another

if the legislated laws gave us the freedom of choice we are

entitled too,,then we wouldnt have to deceive

read who your going to lie to,,

find information about him or her..

dont try to tell a chemical engineer anything that isnt fact,,

in the aforementioned scenario at the lab supply business,

it would have been just as acceptable for me to say to the

employee from upstairs that i was the purchasing clerk for

the company,, and i wouldnt have a clue what they do

down on the floor

always do your homework

to survive this game,,it will be because you perceived the

problem before it eventuated



if in doubt

run away



[This message has been edited by kirby (edited 01-04-2004).]
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Old 2004-01-04, 02:19
bucky wingwing bucky wingwing is offline
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Default Re: Proper Etiquette for Buying at a Lab Store

mutha fuckin legend kirbs
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Old 2004-01-04, 02:25
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hehe.......you can tell kirby speaks from experience here!!! Good words of wisdom though kirby.



If you truely want a much more unconcerning way to gather stuff for your home Hobbyist Chemistries then I would recommend using an online Merchant.

Reason is because unless you are some Big Dog who is just one wrong move away from the Cops nabbing your ass, then the shear volume of "usual" lab items ordered at an online Merchant vending such goods is totally a matter of business as usual for the Merchants point of view in regards to your orders.

And I would myself, personally say:"Fuck Fisher Sci!!" There are better resources available man.

I am myself in developement and under construction for a new website offering lab supplie bar-none unsurpassed in price for the selection offered. And this one will be selling more than just glassware. I just recently signed a contract with a vendor who has an insane inventory of miscellaneous labware whereby the prices are rock-bottom thus as is my style of doing business, I pass-on the savings and rely on volume to make sure the checks for crazy-cash for me keep coming and my customers keep coming back and give positive feedback to their prospective friends and associates.I do have some items from my vendors' inventory already in stock with more coming every week. This business venture will be strictly an online/virtual Mercantile. And is going to kill my competitors' customer base!!! Capitalism at its best! <A HREF="http://users.telenet.be/eforum/emoticons4u/violent/sterb028.gif">http://users.telenet.be/eforum/emoticons4u/violent/sterb028.gif" width="90" height="90 (http://users.telenet.be/eforum/emoticons4u/violent/sterb028.gif" width="90" height="90)</A>



Jam.
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Old 2004-01-04, 03:43
moonmeister moonmeister is offline
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Default Re: Proper Etiquette for Buying at a Lab Store

Oh ya! Problems? Kick 'em to the Kirb, he'll

take care of them.

Jam: I would suppose, that not all useful **

will be available? LiAl* or suchlike is just

too weird to contemplate I'm sure.

"I'm just mad about saff...ah ah...oh ya

I'm just mad about saffron, she's just mad

about me" Donovan
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Old 2004-01-04, 05:34
Wicked_Rain Wicked_Rain is offline
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Default Re: Proper Etiquette for Buying at a Lab Store

SWIM is also very good at this. SWIM can sell hubcaps to a motherfucker that dont even have a car.
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Old 2004-01-04, 07:14
kirby kirby is offline
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Default Re: Proper Etiquette for Buying at a Lab Store

i just bloody knew it wicked,,

thats why your living in a cave on the yukon with mrs kodiak,

sold one to many freezers to the eskimoes did we
 
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