I heard that when meth is heated in a glass pipe and cooled.. if it leaves patterns of half moons, it's no good. Is this true? If so, what is it and how can I make it smokeable?

Don't know. I've never heard such a thing myself.

I would venture to guess though that if when you smoke it it doesn't get you high then it's been cut. <A HREF="http://techhelpers.net/e4u/drink/trink07.gif">http://techhelpers.net/e4u/drink/trink07.gif" width="90" height="90 (http://techhelpers.net/e4u/drink/trink07.gif" width="90" height="90)</A>

Well what about if it gets you 'out of it' and not a normal meth high where you're running around cleaning and stuff. Or makes your eyes sticky etc.

you heard??

imagine an ice block,

if you heat that little sucker,

it turns into a liquid,

heat it some more and it turns into vapour..

meth,

heat it and it turns into a liquid,

allow it to cool and it returns to a solid but with a noticable pinwheel formation..

heat it to a liquid again,,

and keep heating it,

it turns into a smoke,

now guess what,,

that smoke,

is the smokable bit,

you get that,

huh huh

Very Funny. Thanks for the tip..

heres the deal man, when a cook finishs his work he always checks to make sure that the product reduced from ephedrine to meth. to do this said cook would drop a bit into a glass pipe heat it till it melted then roll it in the glass while holding it up to a bright light. the rolling spread it out thin on the glass and as it cools it starts to make patterns. you want lines. you dont want circles. circles (pinwheels) means that theres unreduced eph. in your shit. straight lines means it is meth. SWIM was taught this many many years ago by a master of the game. these days its known by the term "cracking back" when you melt it, roll it, and cool it. you have cracked back. many people think that this is done to check for a clean burning product. well nowdays that is also something that needs checked. but SWIM is from the old school back in the 80`s when there was nothing in the pills to dirty your dope, was no need to check for contaminants. it was strictly cracked back to check on full reduction from eph. to meth. hell SWIM was crackin it back 15 years before he ever smoked his first hit. thru some in a test tube cracked it back, lines were good circles bad simple as that. then the test tube was thrown out still with the dope in it along with the other waste. nobody smoked the shit back in the day. the ritzy people snorted it and the outlaws injected it. yeah we were fuckin cosmic cowboys back then. life was crazy and no one gave a fuck. SWIM is glad he survived them days and shit is mellow now but he still wouldnt trade em or done anything different. goddamn man the memories are a rush just thinkin bout the dope we went thru, the shit we did. damn man you just wanted a simple answer to a simple question and i have wrote a fuckin book again. well at last the dope is still jammin. heh hope this helps explain your question.

ok,

eph comes in small circles like pin wheels,

meth comes in odd shapes but straight shards ,that all originate from the same point

exactly what i said....lines good, circles bad.

Thanks for your help. I think I have a problem on my hands then. What health or other problems might occur from smokin' the 'half moons' as I call 'em?

Also, Is there a way to fix to problem? Can I turn the eph into meth? I know it's gotta be possible

sure there is... do an I2/RP reaction and chuck the unreduced meth into the flask and let it finish reducing with the new reaction. do you know how to cook dope? if you never have cooked dope before than monkeys will fly out of your butt before you get that crap reduced all the way. its not hard per-se but it does take some knowledge and practise and can be dangerous. i assume your not a cook or you would know what to do with the shit without askin. perhaps find who you got it from and kick em in the head till there eyes pop out would be easier. how much of the crap do you have?

Not much.. I don't have the set up to do much either.. I thought I could use some shit around the house .. alcohol, baking soda, I don't know.. to fix it. I don't have any major shit around here.. just some msm. Thanks tho. Kicking him in the head till his eyes popped out sounds goood too tho!!

SWIM thought cracking back was a term referring to the crackling sound made when meth liquid resolidifies. Anything like this that is melted and then allowed to recrystallize makes that sound.

What is there is NO pattern.. looks white, not see through.. what's that?

What the fuck is SMIM? Sorry, I'm blonde

Don't know what Smim stands for, but Swim stands for Someone Who Isn't Me.

I meant SWIM.. thanks I knew it was something like that

SWIM

no pattern, clear for a minute, slowly turns white, sometimes circles sometimes just smooth... you have what swim calls purge.. un-reacted pseudo...

dont smoke it... it'll make you all tired, pissed off and REALLY wanting the good shit.

swim suggest snorting it. you'll feel something, maybe.

if it doenst KrackleBack,(the pattern) its bullshit.

quote:Originally posted by madchemist:

SWIM thought cracking back was a term referring to the crackling sound made when meth liquid resolidifies. Anything like this that is melted and then allowed to recrystallize makes that sound.

SWIM`s above post explaind crackin back MC. in 20 years SWIM has never heard the goods utter a peep when they were cracked back.

quote:Originally posted by kman:

Don't know what Smim stands for, but Swim stands for Someone Who Isn't Me.

Thanks for posting that bit of info. I had no idea what the term "SWIM" meant either, but was rather hesitant to ask.



- Rabbit -

I've never heard any noise either, but years of running chainsaws has left me half deaf, so I guess my vote doesn't count.

Meagain, swim's spent a lot of time thinking about the original question, and swim really wants to help , so here's what can be done. Send swim a minimum of a ball, and swim'll test it for you!

quote:Originally posted by Wicked_Rain:

SWIM`s above post explaind crackin back MC. in 20 years SWIM has never heard the goods utter a peep when they were cracked back.

OK, how about when you melt it on a piece of aluminum foil? As it cools, listen closely. You guys have heard it then right?? It makes quite a bit of noise then.

quote:Originally posted by AlwayzTired:

OK, how about when you melt it on a piece of aluminum foil? As it cools, listen closely. You guys have heard it then right?? It makes quite a bit of noise then.

ok yes SWIM has heard it on tinfoil but always figured it was the tinfoil making the noise lol. metal makes noise when contracting and expanding with heat and cold. maybe heat up some foil without any goods and it might just make noise anyways.

Hey just wondering anybody know about shooting speed? I've seen my friend do it so many times but never really stopped to give it my total attention. Im not to sure as to how many units of water to measure of meth, nor how to make sure theres no air in the needle when drawing up. Well i would like to ask him, but he recently was arrested, so im just curious is all.

Yes. Why do you want to know about that? Your veins have a limited life if you geeze, and smoking is just as good(well, almost), I think.

V

Swim doesn't play with the metal but knows alot that do, and to each his own way.

You are talkin serious shit especially if you don't know what you're doing. Remember the old saying curiousity killed the cat.

Princess

for shooting, meth is the same as coke, use enough dh20, not ditch water either, enough dh20 to dissolve the meth or coke, use a ciggerett filter cut small with sciseres to filter as u suck up the potion, as for measured doses, use a 1/2 of a 1/4 gram to start( even a bit less), dissolve with 20 to 30 cc's of dh20, then drop small cig filter into it to suck up through the filter, flick the tube a couple times to move air to top, then push out air,,, air in small amounts is normal (small bubble at very top) but with work u will get all air out.. the high is boreing with meth, u will get a wide awake feelings with a bit of fuzzy feeling.. long lasting though,,,, swim prefures coke for shooting,,, much nicer high,,, also a mix of coke and a small amount of meth is a nice buzz. stick with only new rigs for safety, and use dh20 instead of tap water, clean spoon. add meth, dissolve, filter as u suck it up n get high.... dont overdose as this is uncomfortable to say the least,,, swim has had shots that ( with meth ) set swims neck on fire,,,, never again..

rnx57

..and watch out for cotton fever!

Okay, so it might be bunk shit... well what does H look like smoked or melted - whatever.... is there anything ELSE it could be besides unreacted eph? I'm talking about the cloudy, no patterned stuff. It's doing something.. but I just don't know what

Listen here a minute blondie....hahaah You're asking questions here that the answers to may not make any sense to you...which leads to the badgering of our staff here in "Methania". I would suggest, (in a very nice way) that you should read a bunch of the old stuff here. When you kinda get a handle on the terms and such, then you can look some of that stuff up @ rhodium's site. Then finally....we'll all be waiting with open arms here for you.

*chanting* "long live the noobs!!"