[b]Note:If you are having trouble with your Sinus/Allergy-60's, then the way to Pinwheel City is outlined by the write-up from Wicked below me here.

I inititially had a usual longass post here whereby various modes of attack against the blue shite some have come to report about.

But no need and none of it was going to make it easier than Wicked has here before you.

So this food for thought has be edited from the original draft to sop here and say:"Don't buy any red hots......any 120's.........any 240's........and just go buy the 60's for a smoother and simple route to Pinwheel City but Pinwheel City is only going to show-up on the horizen if your TCE/JP-is-as-directed-by-Wickeds' buddy swiw advises you to!! <A HREF="http://users.telenet.be/eforum/emoticons4u/violent/sterb303.gif">http://users.telenet.be/eforum/emoticons4u/violent/sterb303.gif" width="90" height="90 (http://users.telenet.be/eforum/emoticons4u/violent/sterb303.gif" width="90" height="90)</A>



Jam.

[This message has been edited by Jamiroquai (edited 01-01-2004).]

SWIM has used the TCE/JD extensivly. SWIM has test run 5 different brands of 60`s. SWIM has done em with chlor. mal. and with trip. SWIM has ALWAYS had most excellent results. SWIM has experienced two things when it comes to bees not being able to get the blue out.

1. they are not powdering the psuedo before each step by putting it thru a fine sieve strainer.

2. they are using to much JD in the mix and/or they are letting the pill mass set in the TCE/JD to long thereby causing heavy metal (cobalt) to stay with the psuedo causing the blue color that wont leave.

this is the proper way to do it:

when you have all the pills broken out of there bubble nests mortar & pestle them to as fine as you can get them. then run them thru a fine sieve strainer. the pills will be like coarse flour or fine silica sand. run the TCE/JD wash making sure that you mix the TCE/JD at a ratio of 10 to 1. thats 10 parts TCE to one part JD. EXAMPLE: 100 ml TCE=10 ml of JD, 500 ml TCE=50 ml JD. etc. DO NOT use more JD than what SWIM has outlined. let the pill mass set in the TCE/JD for 3 minutes. after its has filtered thru a SINGLE coffee filter spread it out on a glass plate and let it dry till bone dry. DO NOT set the plate on any heat scource to speed the drying, strictly room temp. after the pill mass is dry and before adding the denat alky run them thru the fine sieve strainer again. DO NOT skip this. it is important to powder them down at each step SWIM has outlined here as doing this exposes the entire surface area of the mass to whatever chems, solvents etc. that are involved in each step leaving no place for gakks to hide. after the 3 denat alky pulls are evapped and scraped up, again make sure its bone dry and run the psuedo thru the fine sieve AGAIN before the tone wash. after the tone wash dry the psuedo out bone dry again. the final step is passing the psuedo thru the fine seive yet again before it go`s in the flask. SWIM has traced every failure of this method that has been brought to his attention to operator error NOT ONCE has it been because of the pills provided they were white 60`s.

SWIM is not saying your wrong Jam. SWIM is simply stating what he has experienced. SWIM has well over 50 extractions involving over 10,000 pills to date and not once has it failed for SWIM and crew at upallnight productions. the only thing that needs be done for success is follow the writeup TO THE LETTER and use the pills outlined in the writeup ONLY. get some succesful extractions under your belt and then experiment with different pills, substitutions etc.

No that's exactly what was needing to be said Wicked!! <A HREF="http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoticons4u/fingers/fing32.gif">http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoticons4u/fingers/fing32.gif" width="90" height="90 (http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoticons4u/fingers/fing32.gif" width="90" height="90)</A> Reason I had brought this topic up was that I've seen quite a few mentions about this blue stuff showing uo and that it was pertaining to the Sinus/Allergy-60's.

But if it's merely a matter of following directions for a sure-fire success then the solution couldn't be answered more simpley!!

But what you sid above me here is perfect in nippping this som'bitch in the bud. <A HREF="http://users.telenet.be/eforum/emoticons4u/violent/sterb028.gif">http://users.telenet.be/eforum/emoticons4u/violent/sterb028.gif" width="90" height="90 (http://users.telenet.be/eforum/emoticons4u/violent/sterb028.gif" width="90" height="90)</A>

And that way any future questions/bitch & moans about this matter can be directed here.

As futile as it may sound, I really do intend to give some structure to totse Lab Tips in respects to git-go.

And I can't do it alone so again. anything any of you guys see missing and feel needs inclusion don't be shy man and post that puppy on the Board here and it'll be here for future refrence for one and all.

If you ask me the archives for git-go here needsome serious updating and document-dumping like none other!! The Vicks inhalers to......well the whole damn thing. <A HREF="http://users.telenet.be/eforum/emoticons4u/violent/sterb303.gif">http://users.telenet.be/eforum/emoticons4u/violent/sterb303.gif" width="90" height="90 (http://users.telenet.be/eforum/emoticons4u/violent/sterb303.gif" width="90" height="90)</A> Perhaps we'll collectively have to see about that and submit some new proper and accurate methodologies to be read upon when a new Kat comes and sees this site for the first time andreads those "Speed" archives. Just like I myself did back on day one here.



I reckon Wicked I need to go back and edit my post above yours now!!! hehe........

I can dig it though.

This case is closed.

Jam.