Switrd knows the time and effort it takes to end up with clean e. Now what would be the price range for buying e that was ready to go? Switrd has a friend that was interested in buying some, and wanted some insight on what he should be willing to pay. Thank you for any info.

what country...

down here its $25,000 for pill cleaned eph,,

$35000 for pharmaceutical grade

Switdk would charge about 1/2 the price of the completed product. considering it's about 1/3 of what's needed and cost 4 materials would jack it up 2 about half, which would be about right considering it is half the producto mundo. Add a 10-20 dinero labor fee in case they try to talk ya down.

For what amount kirby?! A kilogram?!

If so that is insane man!!!!!!!!!!

quote:Originally posted by Jamiroquai:

For what amount kirby?! A kilogram?!

If so that is insane man!!!!!!!!!!

Too right.

We pay 50ukp/gm for pure MDMA HCl (which is what I assume you mean by 'e')

Synth

hehe..well actually E=ephedrine,but I can see how that could easily interperated by you in the U.K. as MDMA>



Dunno if The States will ever have quantities of X in that high of amounts!!

Nevermind the fact we have sasafrass trees out the Yin-Yang!!!

Go figure man.



Jam.

quote:Originally posted by LwaysTired:

Switrd knows the time and effort it takes to end up with clean e. Now what would be the price range for buying e that was ready to go? Switrd has a friend that was interested in buying some, and wanted some insight on what he should be willing to pay. Thank you for any info.

Theres really no price set in stone.Just do the math is it or is it not worth it.You see its not really a money thing good deals come and go but never let anything fuck with your freedom.Quanities of clean E for sale smells like trouble to me but i dont no the details of your story but just use caution.I would tell your friend to test it first.As much as i get irratated with alot of uncle festers synths and his therioes.He suggested once to put any aquired chems in a location other then your own and leave them sit for a few months(cooling off period)that was good advice much better then the palladium idea.Anyway im rambelin on so ill shut up.If you can get some more details fill me in.TMG

yeah thats a kilo jam..

remembering meth down here is

$4000 an oz for 10%

$5000 an oz for 25%

$8000 an oz for 50%

$14000 an oz for crystal

so jam,,

oz prices for a kilo if selling crystal is $448,000 per kilo..

you can see why we would snap up kilos of eph for $25,000 to $35,000

quote:Originally posted by kirby:

yeah thats a kilo jam..

remembering meth down here is

$4000 an oz for 10%

$5000 an oz for 25%

$8000 an oz for 50%

$14000 an oz for crystal

so jam,,

oz prices for a kilo if selling crystal is $448,000 per kilo..

you can see why we would snap up kilos of eph for $25,000 to $35,000

thats insane shit man WOW. SWIM is also very VERY leary and suspicious about clean E "ready to go" being for sale. it makes his spidey senses tingle. his brain is screaming RUN FAR RUN FAST!!!! lol after all if one can clean E to perfection than he can damn sure do the rest and make the profit for himself since getting the E pristene is the hardest part about this game. hell any retard can do the rest. it just has DEA written all over it and even if the deal is genuinly straight up its easier to stay out of jail than get out of jail so SWIM abstains from such temptations.

quote:Originally posted by kirby:

yeah thats a kilo jam..

remembering meth down here is

$4000 an oz for 10%

$5000 an oz for 25%

$8000 an oz for 50%

$14000 an oz for crystal

so jam,,

oz prices for a kilo if selling crystal is $448,000 per kilo..

you can see why we would snap up kilos of eph for $25,000 to $35,000absolutely

Kirby you are full of it.

USD and AUD are nearly equal http://www.xe.com/ucc/ƒ

$14,000.00 for an ounce of meth and $30,000.00 for a kilo of eph is just total rooster poot.

Kilos of black market eph average $300usd [$400 Aussie] in the mexico/cali area, an ounce of methamphetamine "glass" averages $2500usd [$3400 Aussie]

Water soluable salts are to easy to smuggle for the price to be jacked up like that.

you ignorant cunt

theres 3 or 4 lads who post in totse,whom live in the same city as i do,,we chat here in lab tips, and who will verify crystal is 50 dollars a point..

you arrogant piece of shit,,whom thinks the worlds prices are set by cali/mexico,,you tunnel vision motherfucker

Table 2: Estimated price, purity and availability of amphetamine, 2000

Availability Price ($) Purity (%)

Gram Point

NSW Easy to very easy 90 50 15

SA Easy to very easy 50 30 17

VIC Variable 50 50 16

ACT Very easy 180 - 10

WA Very easy 200 50 23

QLD Easy to very easy 80 50 28

TAS Very easy 80 50 7

NT Easy to very easy 80 50 5 http://notes.med.unsw.edu.au/ndarc.nsf/website/Publications.monographs.mon47

eat shit

merry xmas wanker

santa claus buttfucks rudolph the red nose reindeer..

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Your own link even proves my point "$50-$200 a gram" it says compared to your bullshit $500 a gram.

You must of got kicked in the head by a kangaroo ayy mate?

Ill bring a kilo of eph to some dumbfuck aussie for $14,000.00 anyday. $13,000.00 for you kirb, you get the child discount for the childish reply you posted.

Act today and ill have swim gift wrap it.

What's funny here is the fact that you're telling kirby shit so much out of blatant ignorance and stupidity as to where his passport states as to his Country of origin and furthermore, you couldn't get Mexican ephedrine especially at the price you quoted and I'll tell you why.

Nothing over here is measured by the kilo and Mexico does not have a store anywhere in the entire country which sellls efedirina hydrochlorate period.

There's no way I'm gonna let you carry on here as if you know these phat-hook-ups like they're a dime a dozen.

I know ten-fold more about Mexico and what its all about than you will ever hope to. And I know for a fact that if you did as I do you wouldn't be bragging about shit such as you are here above.

Also, you don't know kirby. Not one bit man. And for you to attempt and "put-him-in-check-on-his-bullshit" is almost alarming to witness!!

Thre is not one word he has stated in the name of his own reckonings that is even half-assed stretched.

How do I know this? It doesn't matter but I know this all the same.

Man kirby is a cool motherfucker!!

So it speaks volumes about you when we all see you so blindly see and say what you think you see as if you know what the fuck is up here!!!

For the most part, Australians are pretty straight-up sons-a-bitches and engage in participation with respect and dignity.

Do the math:$450 per gram of crystal times 1000g's=$450,000

I've seen crystal here go for $50 per 1/4 g which would=$200 per g times 1000g's=$200,000

Australia was the first to sell pseudoephedrine sulphate.

Do you know dude how easy it would be to control supply of E with only harbors to import the shit?!

Leaving the rest of means to import it to organized crime?!

Those dudes are only in something if their is money to be made by the buckets.

You jack shit about Australia and Mexico as well.

Quit playing pretend here and spare us your rumors and gossip you are speaking here and trying to push them as facts on file!!!

Jam.

merry xmas you ignorant illiterate arrogant cocksucker

do the maths fuckwit,,

i said $14000 per ounce for crystal,which makes it 75% to 80%,,,

the graph said $200 per gram for 23%

now go back to your trailer and SHUT THE FUCK UP

quote:Originally posted by NeverSleepy:

Kirby you are full of it.

USD and AUD are nearly equal http://www.xe.com/ucc/ƒ

$14,000.00 for an ounce of meth and $30,000.00 for a kilo of eph is just total rooster poot.

Kilos of black market eph average $300usd [$400 Aussie] in the mexico/cali area, an ounce of methamphetamine "glass" averages $2500usd [$3400 Aussie]

Water soluable salts are to easy to smuggle for the price to be jacked up like that.



Dude even if Kirby was full of shit (which he is not) why the fuck do you care? He wasn't talking to you, stop burglerizing conversations. I'll shut up sense no one was talking to my dumb ass either. I just don't see Kirby as a spinner of bullshit. Besides anyone that has sent a Quokka sailing through the uprights can't be full of shit.

LwaysTired

I question why anyone would go thru the work and risk of cleaning ephy and not go the distance, it doesn't make sense, unless they have access to ephy that needed no additional cleaning. Which raises the question, If you had access to that kind of e would you sell it? Me either.

be safe

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hmf...u guys are worse than watching a soapy...stick to the numbers and we'll all sleep alot better...

In South Africa u can get 100gr's of E for about R100...in $'s thats about...18$...what the hell, for the guys in the UK we'll pay u to take the shit off our hands...lol

quote:Originally posted by NeverSleepy:

Your own link even proves my point "$50-$200 a gram" it says compared to your bullshit $500 a gram.

You must of got kicked in the head by a kangaroo ayy mate?

Ill bring a kilo of eph to some dumbfuck aussie for $14,000.00 anyday. $13,000.00 for you kirb, you get the child discount for the childish reply you posted.

Act today and ill have swim gift wrap it.



Hey there Sleepy why dont you get some rest.You need not insult or try to belittle people to get your point across.This isnt the hive where insults and derogatory remarks to people are accepted and the norm.I sense desperation in your posting.Maybe you need a vacation away from totse for awhile TMG

somebody give that dumbfuck NS a dollar so he can go buy himself some buisness, seems he cant mind his own, maybe he dont have none.

gotta love the christmas spirit

Switrd is in the Us. California to be exact. I was thinking like 50 bucks an oz. That would be reasonable right? Maybe a lil cheap at that.

quote:Originally posted by LwaysTired:

Switrd is in the Us. California to be exact. I was thinking like 50 bucks an oz. That would be reasonable right? Maybe a lil cheap at that.

damn you cheap bastard HAHAHA!!

50 bucks wouldnt cover the cost of pills, chems and work that it would take to produce an ounce of eph.

Many ways to aquire pseudo or effy.

Companys in india, africa ect. sell kilos for $50-$60, its totaly uncontrolled there. Its not that hard to find a re-mailer or travel to be your own remailer.

If thats to much trouble and you don't have any black market connections, getting a online prescription for single ingredient pseudo or effy pills is nothing more than a simple online questionere.

http://www.cyberdrugs.net/ $100-30g of effy

Or you could move to austraila, aquire $30,000 and find a lucky mate to trade your loot for a $50 sak of effy.

"damn you cheap bastard HAHAHA!!

50 bucks wouldnt cover the cost of pills, chems and work that it would take to produce an ounce of eph."

ahahahahahahahahahh sorry bout that....haahaha This dude is telling Switrd that 50 bucks is what he's been payin. Switrd was blessed a while back...and still has about 6 oz sitting around. Was told that it would expire if kept for too long. Now he sees why he was told that he ought to get rid of it for so cheap. hahaaahah Switrd's had it for about 3 months and has kept it well sealed and put away. There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it so far. Should he be worried? Switrd's been short on cash which is the reason he still has so much. He's waiting for some cash to invest in some matchbooks. He had found a grocery store that was getting rid of a box of 50 matchbooks for 50 cents a pop! And they were of excellent quality! No more though...Damn it!! They stopped selling them all together. (those bastards) He thought about picking up way more than he actually did that day. But his paranoid ass wouldn't ask 'em for more than 20 boxes.

quote:Originally posted by LwaysTired:

"damn you cheap bastard HAHAHA!!

50 bucks wouldnt cover the cost of pills, chems and work that it would take to produce an ounce of eph."

ahahahahahahahahahh sorry bout that....haahaha This dude is telling Switrd that 50 bucks is what he's been payin. Switrd was blessed a while back...and still has about 6 oz sitting around. Was told that it would expire if kept for too long. Now he sees why he was told that he ought to get rid of it for so cheap. hahaaahah Switrd's had it for about 3 months and has kept it well sealed and put away. There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it so far. Should he be worried? Switrd's been short on cash which is the reason he still has so much. He's waiting for some cash to invest in some matchbooks. He had found a grocery store that was getting rid of a box of 50 matchbooks for 50 cents a pop! And they were of excellent quality! No more though...Damn it!! They stopped selling them all together. (those bastards) He thought about picking up way more than he actually did that day. But his paranoid ass wouldn't ask 'em for more than 20 boxes.

i hate to tell you this but if you have had it 3 months it has already expired. SWIM will have to take the shit off your hands and he will only charge you 50 dollars an ounce to haul it off and dispose of it. no thank you is needed SWIM likes to help his roaddogs when he can cuz its just the kind of guy he is. heh

actually it will keep for awhile SWITRD. main thing is keep it cool & dry. SWIM would take some damprid or some dried epsoms and dump 2-3 tablespoons in a stack of 3 coffee filters. twist them up with the drying agent in the bottom and tie it off with a small zip tie. when your done it should look sorta like a comet. volia you now have home made dessicators that are far better and cheaper than store bought ones. for 6 ounces id make 3 or 4 of them. put it in a dark place that has an even day and night temp of around 60-70 degrees whatever sort of jar or can or whatever you put it in, after putting the lid on take some electrical tape and seal the edge where the lid meets the container with several wraps. theres no way in hell any moisture will form in your container now. when the pills are in there bubble pack nests from the manufacturer they have an expiration date of about 2 years if SWIM recalls and you know the manufacturer allows for a large window of error for liability reasons. SWIM wouldnt be suprised if they last 3-4 years stored properly maybe longer.

Well...YeeeHaaaww Is what I'm sayin to that rainman. Switrd has managed to keep 'em pretty safe up until now. He's got some damprid. I'll let 'em know about the comet idea. Yeah, Switrd happened to be in the right place at the right time. Somebody got into some trouble...that somebody's nephew who lived in the same house happened across it. Didn't know what it was. Asked me if I could identify it, so I asked Switrd. Hell yeah he could!! (well he could after asking about it here) He said, I don't know anything about it, but if you could lend me a helping hand. This kid's only about 17. So Switrd told 'em he'd see what he could do. Figured he's doing him a favor by telling him Switrd got stopped and had to get rid of it. *wink wink* Ya know what I mean...he did'nt have a clue and, when I told 'em what had happened..he was just glad switrd hadn't got caught with the stuff. He's a good kid and switrd wouldn't want to see him end up in jail or something. Especially since he had no idea what to do with the stuff. I know, I know...Switrd's a good citizen. hahahahah

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Oxygen is the degrading culprit, it will actualy oxadize the stuff into cat if left exposed for a few years.

The shelf life of pseudo or effy when not exposed to oxygen should be infinate. Pills are air tight so I don't even see a reason for a shelf life here besides a fda standard that requires it.

Right on Neversleepy, Switrd has seen the effects of e that was left out. The end result was really bad. The e degraded greatly. It changed colors and formed a black mold like skin over some of it. The airtight e shows no sign of any degrading...at least no visible signs.

quote:Originally posted by Jamiroquai:

hehe..well actually E=ephedrine,but I can see how that could easily interperated by you in the U.K. as MDMA>



Dunno if The States will ever have quantities of X in that high of amounts!!

Nevermind the fact we have sasafrass trees out the Yin-Yang!!!

Go figure man.



Jam.

One hears rumore that the Dutch cartels bey the sassy oils here in the US, and then they smuggle it into the Netherlands as peanut oil. Then the Dutch cooks make it into MDMA(Usualy called "E" in UK, & called "X" in the US). Not shure why there would not be more X cooks here.

quote:Originally posted by kirby:

yeah thats a kilo jam..

remembering meth down here is

$4000 an oz for 10%

$5000 an oz for 25%

$8000 an oz for 50%

$14000 an oz for crystal

so jam,,

oz prices for a kilo if selling crystal is $448,000 per kilo..

you can see why we would snap up kilos of eph for $25,000 to $35,000

You must be kidding Kerby. Those prices are insane. In the US, SWIMY heard, that low grade crank costs 50-80 U$D/g & high grade

crystal(glass) costs ~125 U$D/g. SWIMY ain't sure about OZs, but it sounds like you are talking about ~5-10 X the going prices here in the US. One did not think that there is that much difference between Aussie & US $s.

for fuck sake guys,,

did you sleep in economics class,,

it isnt the value of the dollar,,

its supply and demand,,

not many good cooks down here,,

not much quality is created,,

this makes a product expensive,,

not the worth of your bloody dollar,,

and to think you yanks set the world economy.

to give you an idea of how few organic chemists willing to play ball are in swims city,,when things came undone,swim was arrested outside the biggest lab ever busted,and all he did was build it for them and do one cook,2.1 kilos,,which the front page said was the largest quantity ever confiscated from a lab inside the state,,

very few do it down here,,thats why its expensive

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lol!!

and what,

pray tell,

is so funny,

mr jam

Well if you must pry kirby, very well.

I was laughing out loud at your antogonized annoyance at everyone having a hard time understanding and beleiving that the situation Down Under is in rerspects to meth, as you recite it is.

Then your perfect explanation to end all future explanations by breaking it down to the nuts and bolts of the matter.

Supply and Demand.

And the market that sets the price thereof.

I'll put my money on that you won't need bother explaining again or further why and how Oz is as profitable as it is.

Jam.

According to the thosands of aussie drug trend refrences found at google including the one kirby himself posted say a gram goes for $50-$200 and a ounce goes for $800-$1000

http://www.aic.gov.au/media/20001130.htmlƒ

http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/public-health/dpb/d&ainterventions/amphetaminesNSW.htmƒ

http://ndarc.med.unsw.edu.au/ndarc.nsf/website/IDRS.state.SA1998ƒ

You really are jerkoff aren't you?!

Well you really don't know kirby and you really don't take a hint man.

Therefore this thread has served its purpose and will be closed before any further pointless and worthless attempts be made to impress upon you that kirby is straight-up and I am going to let that be the final word here so thank you and goodbye.



Jam.

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never sleepy,

should be,

always dopey,

now read this you cocksucker,

5 Count 4 involved the sale of methylamphetamine. On the evening of 6 February 2001 an undercover police operative contacted Lehman and placed an order for 50 methylamphetamine tablets. Lehman approached the applicant who supplied him with the drugs. Lehman then sold the tablets to the undercover police operative for $1800. The 50 tablets were later weighed and analysed. They weighed 17.5 grams and had a purity of approximately 2 per cent.

6 Count 5 was the most serious offence charged. Once again, it involved a purchase by an undercover police operative. On this occasion he purchased from Lehman methylamphetamine weighing 29 grams with a purity of 11.2 per cent. The purchase price was $20,000. The methylamphetamine was supplied to Lehman by the applicant on 15 February 2001.

7 The offence the subject of count 6 arose out of the execution, by police, of a search warrant at the applicant's home in Como on 15 February 2001. There, they located 15 small "deal" bags on a coffee table in the lounge. These contained methylamphetamine weighing 2.68 grams with a purity of 3.7 per cent. The police also located a brown Billabong wallet containing a deal bag holding 0.11 grams of methylamphetamine with a purity of 3.1 per cent and a black plastic container containing two bags of amphetamine, the first containing a quantity of 3.1 grams with a purity of 5.1 per cent and the second containing 3.31 grams with a purity of 4.5 per cent.

8 Also located during the search were an MDMA test kit, electronic scales, an airmail envelope containing numerous small deal bags, a black bag containing deal bags, various containers of Glucodin and Epsom Salts, a tablet bottle containing 41 Ephedrine tablets, three Valium tablets and a note pad containing various handwritten calculations and initials.

well arsewiper,

if you wish to buy meth at 5% purity then yeah you can get it for $100 to $200 a gram or a grand an ounce,

but i was talking a higher grade,

so cuntface,

dont ever disagree with me again when all you got in your hand is your little dick.

I know you guys are going to think SWIM is out of this world but assuming SWIM took the time to start up a bogus chemical company(not to hard) and took the time to get an exporting license from china SWIM can get ephdrine for 50$US a Kilogram assumming SWIM buy's a min of 50 kilograms.

And thats not just 1 company there are many competitors out there SWIM can also get Ampethamine for 50$ a kilogram too.

The Shipping FedEx for 50kilograms is about another $500 from HongKong or Beijing

If anybody else is interested in getting the same connections just register at echinachem.com you need to own a chemical company or atleast do the song and the dance like SWIM did (If you dont own a company just put in an existing company as your the representive of dont worry it wont get back to you or just throw in SWIM Chemical Inc) It takes 24 hours to get approved(Don't Worry they dont look that hard) from there on you can place orders for just about any chemical out there expect for meth (SWIM looked non of them chinese make it).

Be warned if your phoning overseas doit late at night as night here is day there and its expensive and your going to be on the phone for awhile those chinese dont speak good english and somtimes it takes a few minutes for you to get them to understand what you want exactly.

SWIM Speak's from experience on this issue these aren't just "Idea's"

playwithyourself,

is this hypothetical,

or are you saying your doing this,

or have done it.

SWIM has done it expect for the minimum 50kilo purchase order even at 50$ a kilo SWIM just doesn't have that kind of money yet.

By all means your welcome to contact them without using echinachem.com both of these companies have access to ephedrine HCL at around $50 a kilogram remember to dail 001 before the number for international calls and be prepared to speak very slowly.

Supplier Contact Info

Company: China National Chemical Construction Jiangsu Company

Country: China

State: Jiangsu

City: Nanjing

Tel: 86-25-86630167

Fax: 86-25-83307058

Address: No.17 West Beijing Road,Nanjing,Jiangsu,China

Postal Code: 210024

Chifeng Pharmaceutical(Group) Co.,Ltd.

Country: China

State: Neimenggu

City: Chifeng

Tel: 86-476-8249527

Fax: 86-476-8224374

Address: 84, Yidong Street, HongshanDistrict, Chifeng,InnerMongolia, China

Postal Code: 024001

SWIM knows for a fact that what kirby says is true. New Zealand is even higher priced.

Playwithyourself,

i think your playing with yourself.

it would be interesting to know what country your from,

as any western country,

no matter the company name you get your import license under,

is going to have a very deep and serious look at you,your factory,your employees and anything else they feel like,

before they begin allowing the supply of ephedrine,

so oh playfull one,

leave yourself alone.

Please dont let your faggot ass speak those words again les i find out you are down here...

I dont have allot of respect for New Zealand, I hate the sheep and the crummy gravel roads. the fuckin overpriced petrol, and our fuckall doller value on the international market...

But what really fucks me off, is to hear utter faggots like you mention it,



please keep her out of your mouth ,

you fucking piss pool