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Laboratory Tips Safety proceedures, test reagents, drilling rubber stoppers, bending glass tubes, etc. Contributed to by chemists.

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Old 2003-12-19, 14:57
mook mook is offline
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Default carmelized dope

SWIM has got sum dope before that is yellowy kinda-wet-but-not-really rocks

leaves a tiny browny residue when burnt; stings the back of the throat when smoked.

does powdering the dope down and washing with acetone cure this? what about a dual solvent? or is shit like this unable to be saved???
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Old 2003-12-19, 15:21
acidmelt acidmelt is offline
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well this has been covered here before many times and it always boils down to....... what was it cut with? if you knew (which i realize you dont) it would be quite easy to figure out a way to get the goods out. but you dont know so you will have to try different things until you figure it out. start with a cold anyhdrous acetone wash and see what you end up with, then maybe follow that up with an A/B. dual solvent recrystalization DOES NOT CLEAN ANYTHING. its just a method of recrystalizing. so dont do that and think you are going to get anything more pure.
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Old 2003-12-19, 15:32
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oops i forgot to say... its not a matter of cut

its a matter of impurity coming through from the pseudo from pill binders... im guessing its a carbohydrate based polymer; PEG or methocell or something like that

or maybe the cook burnt the pseudo/pill mass on the bottom of the beaker when extracting from pill mass; thats my guess as to why its yellow.. like some carbohydrate polymer carmelizing
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Old 2003-12-19, 22:35
sam-63 sam-63 is offline
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You might want to investigate in you got it too acidic as well, did you gas per instructions
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Old 2003-12-20, 01:07
em de em aye em de em aye is offline
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Say it's yellow cause god made likes chinese people
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Old 2003-12-20, 02:14
kirby kirby is offline
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meth oil is lightly yellow

this is why you see it that colour

follow acidmelts advice
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Old 2003-12-20, 03:54
gottagogo gottagogo is offline
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The yellow tint along with the sting in the throat definitely means too much acid remains in the product. This also means that the manufacture did not wash the post product with acetone. This would further indicate that they are not very experienced at what they do.

Now, if you still want to keep it and not go back and get your money, you need to wash it with dry acetone. Dual solvent recrystallization is indeed for recrystallizing the product after it has already been significantly cleaned. However it can be used with great success to clean post reaction product such as what you have.

When you wash crystallized or powdered solids, many of the impurities remain trapped inside the crystal structure. This is especially true of larger crystal structures. In a dual solvent, the crystals are broken down to liquid and then reformed. When you perform a dual solvent on trashy product, always use an excess of acetone. Probably 3 or 4 times as much for really discolored or stepped on stuff compared to what you would use just to make better crystals from already clean product.
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Old 2003-12-21, 06:55
mook mook is offline
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so if acid is the problem; cud i dissolve in dh20 and do an a/b?
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Old 2003-12-21, 07:47
kirby kirby is offline
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no

just a quick wash in dry acetone...

i need a favour from someone in bumfuck java..

your it..

drop me an email please
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Old 2003-12-21, 17:26
mook mook is offline
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i sent u mail kirbs but no reply???
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Old 2003-12-21, 17:36
mook mook is offline
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kirbs.. SWIM is going to singapore tommorow and then perth on christmas eve; so you'll have to email me by tommorw morning if u want anything done quick``!!
 
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