anyone tried making the hydrodic first with phosphoric (H3PO4) and potassium iodide (KI) if so is the HI & P-phed all you need for reduc. or do ya still need the P4 to keep it going? any HI & p-phed reduction procedure or ratio?

very good question blem

may i refer you to a post by "shorty" on that insect board

or--I can relate swim's exp but, sadly, not on here as he was only chattin in a bar anyway

and jam would only relay it to his handlers for followup again

it is the route to go nowadays for HI method and you can use some impossible to control precursors as well

you have to hit the books in a good college library

if I told you some of the methods for HI you would laugh till you read up on them--they are so common yet unknown

forget the usual bs if you intend to go at it for a time

you want otc forever ideas

and there is as much of the one pre. as there is sand on the beach

keep seeking and you shall find--many ideas

oh, i wish i could expound but I cannot

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