OK, sorry about the blatant newbie question..

I am just wondering what the diff. is between prescription methamphetamine ( say for obesity ), and the kind you make using the Nazi method, or Birch method...

Does the presciption stuff give you a high? Thanks

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I don't think they precribe RX meth here for being too fuckin fat, Mainly for ADHD or hyper activity in children in the forms of ridlin, I just had some the other day, Gal gave the whole fuckin bottle of it, her kid was takin it and her DR gave her something else, I read the label, methadrine I think is what it said, before I could look again the gal done ripped the label from it, they were 20mg white pills, not the same high as our crank, more of a clean speed buzz, the stuff made in the wild we will call it, is a trippier buzz, make your fuckin hair on your neck stick straight out, europhoria, fuckin makes me jackoff all day.

Hang on, looking through my collection of pill books now, I was going to do that the other day, but fuck it, I tossed 4 of em back and hit road with toad.

Ritalin SR 20mg is what she gave me, like it when they have the pretty pictures in these pill books. methylphenidate hydrochloride piperdine CNS stimulant. But fuck who knows I am sure there are tons of forms of RX meth

Desoxyn was mentioned on another thread... some dude 'Jack' says its what US military takes before a mission (airforce).

I wonder if you can take Desoxyn, or Ritalyn, and make it into something as close to Crystal Meth as you can...

I am not sure, but I kinda doubt that you could reduce it to anything else, seems like it would be fully reduced as is, The key question though, is how do they reduce this at the prescription manufacture, I bet they don't scratch match's or fuck with any stinkin annie.

desoxyn is methamphetamine via more of a p2p type synth, and it is what they give pilots the option to take before any flight or engagement type mission over 12 hrs, and it comes complete with a 3 day detox program when you get back........its worth it though as Desoxyn is some pretty cool shit ...............yummmy

peace....Green

i was prescribed to desoxyn i wasnt impressed tho the most i took was 6 of them and they were only 5mg's each someone mentioned a week or so ago that you need atleast 200mg to get high, thats 40!!! effin pills, thats 6 days worth on max dosage, i do believe there is a way to extract them but it isnt exactly easy. I'd like to hear from anyone thats taken them and actually gotten high did you eat 40 pills? even tho they are small thats alot of pills to eat and i would think it would be impossible to sniff anywhere near 40 pills i duno im happy with my focalin as it also doesnt make me loose weight

12 Desoxyns will get you satissfied. Whoever said 40 was full of it man. I get 13-5mg-tablets prescribed to me every damn day of my natural born life. And to me there ain't nothing else prescribed out there for speed that rivals them.

BTW sure you can "break them down". Soemtimes like every other day in fact I shoot mine. A simple water extract will do the trick.

Sometimes I squirt out ten units or so out of my syringe just to watch the pretty crystals that form from pure methamphetamine.

Then I scrape and smoke or scrape and shoot them.

Desoxyn rivals amphetamines(Adderall)Ritalin you name it man.

Jam.

just reminiscing here but i use to love those biamphetamines (black beauties) and dexedrine (dextroamphetamine). are they still manufactured these days?

hehe........you're showing your age here So Confused!!

Biphetamines believe it or not are still made as are Dexies.



Jam.

Yellow Jackets and Black Beuties is what got me hooked on the uppers, My mom had a script for them for bveing overweight, she says, But hell who looks at mom in that manner anyway.

She never took them as prescribed so by the time she went to get the refill she still had alot left over from the last fill, I was studying for a big test for health class and decided to try them out for longer study time that night, I loved speeders every since.

Sammy

quote:Originally posted by SoConfused:

just reminiscing here but i use to love those biamphetamines (black beauties) and dexedrine (dextroamphetamine). are they still manufactured these days?

Dexedrines are still being manufactured, but biphetamines(black beauties, pinguins, and white beauties) are no longer made, or at least the real/original ones are not. The biphetamine pills were replaced by Adderall pills. Adderall are amphetamine compound tablets. They are prescribed for ADD/ADHD and narcolepsy.



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quote:Originally posted by daweller:

Desoxyn was mentioned on another thread... some dude 'Jack' says its what US military takes before a mission (airforce).

I wonder if you can take Desoxyn, or Ritalyn, and make it into something as close to Crystal Meth as you can...



Desoxyn is already racemic-methamphetamine, but Ritalin is methylphenidate. Methylphenidate is not a true amphetamine, but it is classed as an amphetamine like drug. Methylphenidate is chemically related to pemoline and 4-methyl-aminorex.

quote:Originally posted by daweller:

OK, sorry about the blatant newbie question..

I am just wondering what the diff. is between prescription methamphetamine ( say for obesity ), and the kind you make using the Nazi method, or Birch method...

Does the presciption stuff give you a high? Thanks

Desoxyn(d,l-Methamphetamine HCl) is no longer prescribed for obesity, but it is prescribed for ADD/ADHD and narcolepsy.

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The methamphetamine made by the Birch method is usually the dextro isomer of meth(D-meth). D-meth is a bit stronger than d,l-meth. 10mg of d-meth is like ~16.7mg of d,l-meth(the racemic isomer of meth). However, they are both stronger than dextroamphetamine(dexedrine sulfate), for it would take ~20mg of dexedrine to =the above meth doses.

Desoxyn is already racemic-methamphetamine........no Desoxyn is not racemic DESOXYN is (methamphetamine hydrochloride tablets, USP), chemically known as (S)-N, (alpha)-dimethylbenzeneethanamine hydrochloride

I know they don't manufacture the true black beauties or the yellow jackets any more, and the phony replacement psuedo pills are long gone too as far as purchasing them from magazine ad's due to meth manufacture, that was 25 years ago when I started on the speeders

Hmmm, did a search for desoxyn and stumbled across this thread. I first ran into desoxyn back around 1984 up in Alaska and that was an experience I'll never forget. Some guy, nicknamed Hawk, came up from Frisco representing a clandistine lab - had all kinds of samples, everything rangin from synthetic mescaline to this stuff we'd never heard of called desoxyn. It came in a browninsh/amber crystal form and I remembered thinking at the time, "Man I hope this stuff isn't related to like dioxin cuz I don't wanna get like nose cancer or something." Yeah well I was young and dumb etc. etc.

Well we bought some and I still remember this guy Hawk warning us in no uncertain terms to go EASY on this stuff, only very small lines. And he wasn't kidding, that shit was so clean, no burn, but a couple of one inch lines jacked me up with such a clean, euphoric 12hr high, like I'd never felt before or since for that matter. We bought all he had and he said he'd be back soon, but we never saw him again. Figure he got busted or something and I've been looking for that stuff ever since, but never ran across it nor heard mention of it till I found this post.

So the question is can this stuff be synthesized? Or should I say is it practical? I realize that it's probably nearly impossible or else it'd be all over the place, but no harm in asking, eh?

quote:Originally posted by Jamiroquai:

12 Desoxyns will get you satissfied. Whoever said 40 was full of it man. I get 13-5mg-tablets prescribed to me every damn day of my natural born life. And to me there ain't nothing else prescribed out there for speed that rivals them.

BTW sure you can "break them down". Soemtimes like every other day in fact I shoot mine. A simple water extract will do the trick.

Sometimes I squirt out ten units or so out of my syringe just to watch the pretty crystals that form from pure methamphetamine.

Then I scrape and smoke or scrape and shoot them.

Desoxyn rivals amphetamines(Adderall)Ritalin you name it man.

Jam.



Jam,

like WHOA, I just read the thread again and saw your post! You can get Desoxyn pills? Man you lucky dog ;?D! Black market or script? I'd kill the President of Paraguay with a fork to get my hands on some of those babies, lol!

quote:Originally posted by fearnoevil:



Jam,

You can get Desoxyn pills? Black market or script?

Script my man! I get 390-5mg per month. Which is 13-5mg per day(65mg of Rx meth per day). So yeah my shit is all too legit to quit. hehe...

Now. You wanna know how much 390-5mg tablets cost me per month?! You ready for this?! I pay $490 PER MONTH for 390 OR 1.95 grams of pharmaceutical methamphetamine!!



Pure-true d-methamphetamine hydrochloride is 100% speed. If you were to shoot a 1/4g(250mgs) you wouldn't feel a rush or any real noticeable head-change through the "front-door" like one might think you would. Pure-true speed creeps on you like some potent creeper-bud. It is so subtle and so smooth you don't notice the escalating sense of stimulation taking hold.

Acidmelt and Geezmeister know what it feels like. Geez is one Bee who knows what pure clean meth feels like so he has a real and honest and valid perspective on the subject of clean meth and what it feels like.



Jam.

Hey Jam, what condition do you have that requires you to be on speed all of the time?

I want to know so I can fake it lol...

Attention Defecit Disorder/ADD. If you want Desoxyn/Rx methamphetamine you'll have to move south of your border to the USA since its only prescribed and dispensed here and nowhere else on the planet.

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Jam.

Do they prescribe you something to help you come down off of that shit at the end of the day, man?

Holy fuck, you must never sleep...

quote:Originally posted by JibJunkie:



Holy fuck, you must never sleep...

How do you think he manages to always be at hand on Lab' Tips when someone has a problem or question - he must be like permanently logged on..... or maybe there's a signal directly into the "Batcave"

quote:Originally posted by JibJunkie:

Holy fuck, you must never sleep...



Once a month even if he doesnt need it

Jam,

Yes indeed that does sound like the effect. I do recall initially thinking that this desoxyn stuff was over-hyped - heck no burn and no teeth-grinding buzz, lol. But then it began to come on and, yehaa what a nice smooth ride. Hell yeah, if I could get my hands on some of those I'd fire em up on the spot, heh heh!

Well I'd better get to studying so I can start actin like I got ADD and get me a script too ;?D. Course I wonder if they'd think it strange for a 48 year old man to suddenly realize he's got ADD.....

quote:Originally posted by fearnoevil:

Course I wonder if they'd think it strange for a 48 year old man to suddenly realize he's got ADD.....

Switmg wouldnt think it would be strange at all.ADD is just starting to get recognized in all ages.If you think your the only 48 year old that finaly comes to terms with with having ADD well your not.Getting them to believe you have ADD shouldnt be a problem.Walking out with a script for desoxyn will.They may want to try you on a non stimulant at first or if your convincing maybe some adderall or if your lucky dexies.Switmg has learned to enjoy dexedrine but there almost as expensive as desoxyn.Good luck.

TMG

I'm 50 and just been diagnosed as a.d.d. I'm really a.d.d., but the doctor has started me on Strattera which sucks. I tried to talk him into adderall but he wouldn't do it. I'll go see him again next week.

I did a little research about the drug that is in Strattera and this is what I came up with: STRATTERA (atomoxetine HCl) is a

selective norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor. Atomoxetine HCl is the R(-) isomer as determined by x-ray diffraction. The chemical designation is (-)-N-Methyl-3-phenyl-3-(o-tolyloxy)-propylamine hydrochloride. The molecular formula is C17H21NO·HCl, which corresponds to a molecular weight of 291.82.

Ok, this is what I am confused about: If speed(adderall, ritalin, etc.) is used to treat ADD and Atomoxetine HCL is not in the same catagory as a form of speed then how does the drug work to help ADD people?

strattera didn't help me. Whereas 30mg adderall really helped and gave me a nice buzz. Also it seems to me that taking dilantin with the adderall helps.