I was sitting here tonite looking at a step by step mimosa extraction picture sequense when it came to me, everyone makes these hard to follow directions, confusing pictures etc on making fancy stuff I've yet to come across a step by step that didnt leave me mostly confused. So my idea is why not make a video? The first video I'd like to see would be MDMA and would pay good money to see such a video as i'm sure alot of others would too. a free video would be even better but i think it would be money well spent just make the video in a unidentifiable place, wear masks etc. ok now im gona introduce the sketchy part and i understand if most people would be too paranoid to consider this but id be willing to travel about 150 miles to help make the video just incase you do not own video equipment (as i own some professional camera stuff and took a couple video classes in college) i could make the shit pretty sophisticated.

I'd like to hear everyones response to this idea

i can also be contacted thru aim my sn is forty40unces

whoa slow down,,

yeah mate great idea

many of us have crossed this bridge

itd be great to set something up on mail order..

problem being drugs are a crime to the crown,,and a felony for you guys..

possession of the tape would be frowned upon..

making or selling it would be many years in jail

happening to be in the bloody house when it was busted and the tape was there would a hassle

anyone close to a tape as yourve described, would have some very quick talking to do to go home that night

but hey

keep thinking

next one might work

i think of about 5 a day and keep one a year

I think a video is a great idea. I agree with Kirby, where he's talking about it being illegal, but sharing music is illegal too. I'd love for someone to get something going. Keep it free though. I thought about the idea myself. I know a mate who tapes himself, to watch back over if something goes wrong, and another who takes pics for the same purpose. I say give it a go.

your all mad

HEY BEN

THEY WILL BE JOINING YOU SOON

Kirby, bill agrees 100% with your reply! Any-

body askin this of someone sounds kind of

strange! The risks are way to high. Peace

Last time i checked this wouldnt be a crime unless they could prove who made the video, they demostrated how to make crack in the late 80's on TV its not the same thing but close enough, half the shit on TV can be taken as illegal, like the things on 'jackass'. Lets just say they found the video, unless the video shows your face who are they to say YOU made the video, possesion of the video is the same as possesion of or presentation of pictures of the like and as we all know theres more then a few places we can all find something like that. So Kirby your saying the line that would make this illegal is the line between a picture sequense and a motion picture?

No Bro. It's just that what you are proposing is spooky to the average Kat in the kitchen with his/her apron on(if you know what I mean).

It's a noble thought though. I'll give you that no problem.

Jam.

I know its a sketchy idea, so from here i have 2 ways i can go either i can make a video using look-alike chems which somebodie mentioned or wait for someone to step up, not be spooked and help make a diffrence the more people that know how to make clean stuff means less and less contamanated pills, few to no "ecstasy" related deaths, no PMA, DXM, various RC's and i can only imagine what else in pills. i know somebodie is out there willing to help

Doing a step by step video of Swigota making up a delicious crock of chili is no problem. The problem is with the anonymous distribution of said video (which would be free of charge of course)

Explain the logistics involved with getting a video to you using an untraceable route and maybe it will get done.

email is in the profile.

Can't help with the X though.

hey gottago

good to see you back

how have you been

uncle fester has done this before i dont know where you would find it anymore.

Hey Kirb--

I've been goin nutso with computer problems. I became obsessed with eliminating spyware from my registry, much of it real, some of it imagined. I had no idea that so many completely legitimate software companies put automatic upload links in the registry to send user stastics back to their websites. The problem is that other not so legitimate companies use those doorways to get in and take anything and everything. This method can get by many types of security. It was really fucking with my head (not to mention my wife's. I would be in DOS for days at a time.)

Anyway, I finally copied everything to disk, data wiped the drives and started over. For now, this computer is clean as a whistle. No account numbers or anything. I really got to bump the security up a few notches. I'm too damn poor to buy and too dumb to find the good stuff for free.

OK, now for some on topic stuff. I have been interested in putting up some of Swigottas digital stuff for a while, but anonymous servers and uploads through proxies are still pretty much greek to me. I'm open for suggestions though.

dont look at me mate..

wouldnt have a clue..

uncle festor has a meth video out already

and was supposed to have an mdma out but i never heard much more

heard the costumes and getups were a good laugh in his forst one though

you can still buy it

Pikk - I believe you can get Uncle Fester's books at Phantom or FS Books (I got several of his, but they were way too technical for me, especially as a beginner. Now that have had some experience, I understand some of it, but still little confusing).

Gottagogo - just a tip, if you want some free software (antivirus, rippers, or whatever) use your P2P program (I like kazaa++). I just got Norton 2004 Pro w/ crack for free - I share all i find through P2P. A tip to HELP be anonymous over web is to make sure your pc is set to automatically assign DNS. There's a hell of alot more security tips and tools, but that's a different forum.

I thought of doin a vid of my BBQ, not for sell but to just have. I wouldn't have a problem dispersing over inet, but the size of vid would take forever to distribute (especially with a friggin dial-up). Find a better way, I'll send it (my ISP is hacked and not in my name anyway).

Thanks for the tip, bad. I've always been a bit leary about P2P program downloads. It just seems too easy to plant malevolent code in them. I assume you have installed many without any problems. Is this true?

I've never read any of Fester's stuff, but I have heard much controversy in regard to his methods. I don't think he utilizes any of the new extraction techniques or crystallization techniques that are commonly discussed here, chemhead, and the hive.

If there was any one method that a video would truly be worth a million or so words, it would have to be Worlock's dual solvent recrystallization. Easy to do, damn hard to explain. Much of the meth from pills technique is highly user dependant. A series of step by step video "labs" could really open the flood gates by enabling a much higher percentage of successful clandestine chemists. Not to mention a lot fewer poisoned and dead ones.

It would be nice to see new threads dedicated to posted links to instructional videos all over the net. Of course, if it ain't free, then you may need an ego check. Besides, it would really be about as close a you can get to "putting your money where your mouth is" so to speak. I've heard more tall tales here then when I go fishin' with a bunch of old timers. Seein' is believin'.

Gogo---It's a good thing to be leary (whatever the task may be As for P2P, 2 main things- A good firewall (ZoneAlarm or Norton) to keep people from going somewhere in your PC they shouldn't, AND a good virus scanner (Norton or Panda) to check the download before it's opened. Surprises suck (unless it's an unexpected increase in yield) ;P

I agree about the vid archives....but something I've pondered on: With an increase in Chef's (Demand), the precursors (supply) becomes scarce. It has around these parts. Go to wallyworld or $ Gen.and take a pack of medicine off a fully stocked shelf today, come back tomorrow to an empty slot. It seems to be getting crazier everyday (plus newly created task forces to boot). I'm worried they might ban pseudo, or at least maybe require a signature. Especially with more and more publicity of subject in the media. Any thoughts. Here's mine: If there is no victim, is it really a crime (Gambling, prostitution, and Drugs)?

The problem with victimless crimes is that the victimless part depends on your perspective. You bet 50 bucks on a football game and lose, no problem you'll "get 'em next time". You lose a few times, become obsessed, begin betting money you don't have, people you owe kidnap your kid.......it becomes a non-victimless crime. It can happen to anybody; all it needs is an opportunity. That's generally where LE is coming from. All they see day in and day out is crime. It kinda clouds their ability to see things from the other side of the table.

I, too, have wondered what the DEA's next move will be. In their corner they have the money and power to run the propaganda machine. They also have the fact that most business owners are money conscious. In our corner, most everyone is a loyal customer (people who steal are only making things worse) and the fact that most business owners are money conscious.

It really boils down to money. The DEA tries to to talk morality to store owners first, then if that doesn't work, they threaten with tighter government regulations which will hit them in the pocketbook.

When joe blow goes into the drugstore to buy cold pills, he buys "a" box and it will last him probably through two colds or allergy attacks. When an extractor goes in, he will buy whatever the limit is and do so to every store he can find. If the store operator is friendly and not judgmental, the customer will gladly return next week to purchase more. If I had to venture a guess, I would say that 60-75% of all pseudo and ephedrine containing pill formulas are bought by people who never get a stuffy nose in the winter. (you ever think about that? When's the last time you had a stuffy nose?)

I have to stand with "power to the people". The only way laws change is when "the people" see that the law is unnecessarily restrictive and begin to pressure their representatives for change. I guarantee the people who manufacture and distribute pseudoephedrine containing products would follow suite if the tide shifted in favor of less regulation. They don't give a rats ass what you use them for as long as you're buying. As a matter of fact, they would probably gladly cater to extractors if they could. You know, "Why yes sir. Will that be 1 or 2 bottles of 10,000?"

As far as enabling more people through advanced teaching media.....well.........I don't know. On the one hand, more people means more power. On the other, more stupid people means more problems. So, whoever reads this, Don't be stupid, knihT.

The bottom line is, if you want to see change, be responsible with your hobbies, habits, even addictions if that's possible. Then get involved in your community, know who is pulling for what, and vote.

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quote:Originally posted by zaabadboy:

Pikk - I believe you can get Uncle Fester's books at Phantom or FS Books (I got several of his, but they were way too technical for me, especially as a beginner. Now that have had some experience, I understand some of it, but still little confusing).

Gottagogo - just a tip, if you want some free software (antivirus, rippers, or whatever) use your P2P program (I like kazaa++). I just got Norton 2004 Pro w/ crack for free - I share all i find through P2P. A tip to HELP be anonymous over web is to make sure your pc is set to automatically assign DNS. There's a hell of alot more security tips and tools, but that's a different forum.

I thought of doin a vid of my BBQ, not for sell but to just have. I wouldn't have a problem dispersing over inet, but the size of vid would take forever to distribute (especially with a friggin dial-up). Find a better way, I'll send it (my ISP is hacked and not in my name anyway).



First off, do NOT use Kazaa! I have had to wipe and reload 4 different pc's because of a security flaw, and malicious assholes with too much geek knowledge that are on a power trip. (Side note: Why would someone with a computer want to wipe out the internet via virus? If they succeed, what will they do then? No one left to destroy. Suicide perhaps? Interesting thought for another time. End Side Note!)

I have been using Direct Download for a while now, and NO virii have made it past all the "free" software I have. (Norton, Zone alarm, Black ice, you name it, I've used it, $$ free every time!)

As for the video, I have a cable line, so High speed 'net for me, therefore, High speed distribution of videos. (Downloaded the Lord of the rings trilogy, 3.41GB, not including the Return of the king, in 4 hours. TOTAL!) I also have a dvd burner, and therefore, what I am getting at is this: ANYONE with what I have can distribute the vids. Only cost involved would be the blank cd's. "Hey I have this cook video, bro, and if you get me a blank dvd or blank cd or 2, I'll make you a copy, as long as you remember to pass it around, see"

I would have NO issues distributing it to those that are looking.

Selling the video? I can understand the want for the extra buck or 2, but logistically, if you get caught? Hell, in some states, they have these things called LAWS. Some of those laws allow people with badges to come into your home, and if they see so much as a $10.00 pot pipe (available at ANY head shop legally, I might add) with little or NO residue in it, they can nail you for paraphenalia possesion, and introduce you to your new home, comlete with roomate named Bubba.

Those videos (I would think) would count as drug paraphenalia, and they would fall under police jurisdiction.

I think.

It's a great concept, and if you decide to make the video, and want cd's/DVD's burned, OR video tapes made (I can run the pc to the vcr. Oops, already did, lol) not to mention high speed distribution, let me know, and I'll help all I can!



(And yes, I can make a vhs tape into a dvd as well, so send me your tapes, lol)



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surely, you could do a video on some legal compound that that would react like meth. For example, worlock's dual solvent re crystalization of rock salt. How to a/b blueberry jam. What I,m saying is it doesn't have to be meth in the video

. All we care about is getting the technique done correctly.

Wow...there is some interesting stuff here. Stuff to think about...ponder a lil. Gald to see you back too Gogo. I don't think the world is ready for a video. I'm afraid that if that many more people learned how to do it, that would be that many more people buying the stuff required to make it. Regardless if the actually knew what they were doing or not...that would probably cause more rapid and drastic measures by the government in regards to making it more difficult to aquire these products. Everything would require a prescription or the like...nahh I say hold off on the videos.

quote:Originally posted by LwaysTired:

[...nahh I say hold off on the videos.[/B]

swim seconds that, swim was thinking that earlier today when he was (shopping) that the more people that learn to make this means that its gonna be harder to find the stuff....and fuck that



plus if everyone knew how to make it then there really wouldnt be to much street value cause everyone would be making it for themselves...not everyone but a hell of alot of people...and i could proly say dat a hell of alot of peeps would proly die tryin....and ontop of everything else, you dont want to make it that easy do you?

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