Lately SWIM has been getting some go-go from his good buddy and has noticed that it has a watery, mildewy taste to it when smoking it. SWIM asked him what the taste was and he told me it was washed with water. SWIM asked why and he said that it washes the remaining puller off the go-go. He went on to say that shooter get sick from the strong solvent left on the go-go so lately he has been rinsing the go-go with water. SWIM has never heard of this method of washing so SWIM was wondering if anyone else has heard or done this before? SWIM's puzzled about the taste. SWIM is used to a strong chemical taste,,,no mildewy, yucky taste.

P.S. SWIM know the go-go is 100% straight(no cut) so that not what it could be.

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few confusing things with your post,,

meth is soluble in water,,so how does he wash it without then having to evaporate the water to get the meth back,,

if he has to clean the pulling solvent out of the meth,,why doesnt he either crystalize the meth with an alcohol,,,or,,just allow the alcohol to evaporate off fully,,and give it an acetone flash,,or ,,dissolve it in alcohol and allow the alc to evap off

its a shame you can not be more descriptive about the taste,,as mildew will not grown on meth

SWIM's good buddy told me that after they gas the pull, they take the filter with the go-go in it and run water over the go-go and evaporate out the water/meth solution. Good buddy said that it cleans off all the solvent taste so that shooter(needle users) don't get sick from the harsh chemicals thats on the go-go. SWIM don't shoot up so SWIM doesn't know a thing about this. SWIM know's good buddy makes his go-go using flakes,,,although it shouldn't matter but SWIM thought he should add in post. Good buddy maybe lying to SWIM about water wash but SWIM cannot figure out what the hell the watery, mildewy taste is when puffing on it. This is best description that SWIM can give about taste,,,its hard to describe.

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if your friend tells you that after gassing and filtering,,

he then washes whats in the filter with water,,,

he is lying,,

as if he did,, then all the meth would dissolve,,go through the filter,,and go into the container holding the funnel,,

then when he evaporated the water to get the meth back,,,

the same shit would be there that he started with

and as far as the harsh chems left over rooting with the users of steel,,this doesnt make sense either,,,as the meth would either go back to a liquid if the meth had any liquid not evaporated,,or if it remained a solid then there aint no solvents in it,,

and steel users sometimes like that little burn up the arm they get,,,,

ive seen them have whats called a dirty hit,,

which is where theyve injected something in,, that the body rejects,,and they just drop and begin to vomit and take many hours to feel better

almost like toxic shock

just out of curiosity,,

have you seen these flakes,,what do they look like,,where does he get them,,eg pills or ???

and as ive never tasted mildew,,or meth tasting what i imagine would be a mildew taste,,i cant not help you

quote:Originally posted by kirby:

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if your friend tells you that after gassing and filtering,,

he then washes whats in the filter with water,,,

he is lying,,

as if he did,, then all the meth would dissolve,,go through the filter,,and go into the container holding the funnel,,

then when he evaporated the water to get the meth back,,,

the same shit would be there that he started with



Wouldn't the water somewhat dilute the leftover solvent on the go-go?

As for the flakes that he uses, SWIM was referring to phosphorous acid flakes.

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when you evaporate a solvent,,

if the is a film left over,,,

or any residue at all,,

left after evaporation,,

then that solvent is unsuitable for lab work...

so the meth after gassing,, if left for 30mins,,will have no solvent in it as it evaporates leaving nothing behind..

and i will repeat,,if he says he is cleaning his meth with water,,

A,,he is lying

B,,or if he did you wouldnt be smoking it as it would dissolve into the water..

i did think of one thing though...

what solvent is he using,,,

as the taste either comes from a solvent not allowed to evap..

a pill contaminant thats come through..

or

he is using water with sodium hydroxide in it...

which would stop the meth from dissolving..

but is leaving behind a water contaminant...

have a taste of the water he is using..

before he adds the sodium hydoxide!!!!!

Kirby,,,come to think about it this last batch SWIM received had a strong toluene smell to it but still tasted "watery". Some batches have watery taste, some don't. But they always have a "just gassed and filtered" smell to them. So if the go-go smells like toluene then SWIM guesses that the water wash thing is a joke(Sometimes SWIM's a little slow). Anyways, SWIM's good buddy uses toluene and ether mix as his puller(sometimes he just uses toluene alone). He says the ether makes the go-go weigh heavier. SWIM's guessing that he adds ether to his toluene cause using toluene alone make the go-go weigh very light. SWIM wrote another post about using toluene/ether as a puller but didn't get much insight from anyone.

P.S. SWIM's buddy uses Max Brand 60's. Wish SWIM had that kind of money to spend on pills.

[This message has been edited by Uncle Bill (edited 12-14-2003).]

one of us has to be missing something

in a waterless A/B

you mix the pill mass up with your baser and an alcohol,,eg; ether,,then add your solvent eg; toluene,,the ether pulls the eph,,the toluene absorb the ether wich evaps off leaving the eph in toluene

now if this guy tells you that pulling with ether or toluene makes the meth heavier,,,well he is just pulling,,and it aint meth either,,its himself he is pulling,,,

then again--if you believe him then its you he is pulling

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