SWIM has been reading the boards for a long time now and even has had the opportunity to read excellent posts by kirby, treephrog, acidmelt, wickeed_rain, just to name a few, that are no longer available (SWIM saves)but to all this studying SWIM still cant find answeres to some procedures. SWIM expects ridicule as SWIM has seen some serrious ass ripping on newbies, but gotta ask....:rollseyes:

The synthesis all explain recrystalization, but not in detail such as if there was a problem prior, how to fix it. heres SWIMs dilema: SWIM is still working on first batch of cookins so in the mean time SWIM has to play with the street stuff. SWIMs SS is pretty good, and awsome price, but SWIM still likes to tone wash and recrystalize for purity and taste.

The recrystalize (recry for short) always seems to produce a substance that is oily, salty, powdery, anything to piss SWIM off. SWIM has tried: Dual chem recry, H20 boil and freeze recry, Iso alchohol recry, and the DH20 slow evap (7 days and still no crystals, even threw in some from the stash to try and start a reaction:Nada)SWIM even tried the "cleaning street meth" forum. here is what swim has done so far to several SS batches to try recry:

A - took crystals and added dh20 to them stirred till disolved. put on heat till boil, then lowered to warm till almost evaped, then dried with hair dryer.

result: powdery substance that is oily when wet, dries in clumps, when pinched clumps break to slaty powder. The high is the same as before recry just not the crystals.

B- took crystals added dry Iso alchohol, stirred and had to heat to disolve everything, warm heat till almost gone, then dried with hair dryer.

result: same as above.

C- Took crystals put in coffee filter and washed with ice cold acetone, took crystals and dried with hair dryer, put in dh20, boiled, warm till evap, dried with hair dryer.

result: same as above.

D- Took crystals added Iso alchohol and a few drops of acetone, boiled, turned down to warm for an hour. Put in freezer over night.

result: same as above but with a few crystals on side of evap dish. They were perfectly clear, about 1/4 " wide, and flat.

NOTES: all chems are dried, SS (street stuff) is in 1/2" size crystals when start. Very hard crystals, nice stuff. The crystals are yellowish, to milky white, but never crystal clear (no pun intended).

So heres a few questions for those who are chemicaly inclined (swim has some college but not much chem101):

1- when recry SS wouold SWIM test ph prior and adjust if neccessary? (seems no since SWIM is recrying recry's

2- when meth is in crystal form it is at correct chem makeup otherwise it wouldnt crystalize big crystals in the first place right?

3-SWIM read somewhere that after A/B,Straight to E, rp/i2, and all the other million ways to do it, you take the meth hcl crystals and add water, then test ph and adjust from 6.5 to 7.2 then recrystalize. WTF?

Objective: SWIM would like a thurough way of taking any ss AND TURNING IT INTO CLEAR CRYSTALS!!!! Without worry to yield, and SWIM is aware that he will be notified to the fact there are SEVERAL CUTS that can adhere to and form with the crystals. SWIM is hoping there is a "fix all way" that most wouldnt use do to yield loss. But SWIM just wants the good stuff so SWIM isnt worried about yield loss. Besides SWIMs crystals are pretty damn big anyway so if there is any cut in there it cant be much.

SWIM hopes he/she has shown that he/she has done his/her research, and doesnt get any bad responses or flames. To all a good day.

I think you're trying to clean out the crap in the wrong end. Maybe of you do a more thorough cleaning before you get to the recrystallisation, and before the rxn, you'll have more luck. As to the H2O attempt, i've heard that the honey will leave in the steam.

SWIM thanks Kman, and Kman is right for the synthesis in that cleaning during as well as the end, but SWIM was refering to the "Cleaning of Street Meth" problem. Also SWIM has heard that the steam is bad in DH2O method. Any Ideas? Thanks for the help.

Oh, Swim thught you were dreaming of making your own. God knows what that stuff is cut with, or maybe it isn't, and you're just wasting time(and product). maybe it isn't even what you think it is! Maybe you are in the matrix, and this is all in your imagination! Maybe I just need to go to sleep.

well if you are using SS, the very first thing that you are going to need to do ia an A/B and hope that pulls out some of the cut. if it does then from there recrystalize. from what you said above, all you are doing is recrystalizing the same crap as you had before, you arent cleaning anything. you need to find a way to clean it before you recrystalize it see.....so try a a/b first and if you dont think that did the trick you are going to have to try to figure out the cut and the appropriate steam distillation to follow. this is a real bitch and not worth it at all unless you have a whole shit load of the SS to work with. may the force be with you, because if the A/B dont work you are going to need to have really good skills to figure out what the cut is.

SWIM thanks acidmelt for his/her info. SWIM wasnt sure wether to do a ph balance or a/b. SWIM does want to avoid the evap procedure, hoping a/b gets it. This batch is running low, will try it on the next one. Thanks all.

Some see things as they are and ask,'why?'; SWIM dreams of things that never were and asks,'why not?'

peace