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| Laboratory Tips Safety proceedures, test reagents, drilling rubber stoppers, bending glass tubes, etc. Contributed to by chemists. |
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#1
 2003-12-05, 19:50
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shadoemann 
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What is this?
My friend swish had his first dream the other day. However, when he gave the crystals to his friends the crystals popped and crackeled when burned. I am perplexed as to what he did wrong. After he based the mixture and evapped, crystals formed so he thought he had a successful dream. He cleaned 3 times and did a dual sovent recrystalization. Can he save this? Is it possible that he didn't basify this correctly? Why would crystals form if it wasn't a successful dream?
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#2
 2003-12-05, 22:05
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kirby 
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Re: What is this?
why do you call your friend,,SWISH..
the name swish is an oldie,, meaning a very effeminate homosexual...
and,,it sounds like you have sodium hydroxide carried over into the crystals...
have a close inspection of them,,are there little white balls about the size of the inside of the circle at the bottom of the A(( a )),,may be a touch smaller,,,they will be stuck to the outside of the crystals...
or if he really locked it,, then its inside the crystals..
what does the residue look like after you have smoked it??
does it send the surrounding area of the pipe white???
grab a crystal about the size of a matchead,,put it on your inside forearm,,add a drop of water and mix it up,,,
does it burn???
how was his yield??? he may have picked it up on the A/B before the reduction,,,or after the reduction..
how to fix it..
with difficulty,,,
it would be easier if you had a couple of ozs to play with,,,you mix the two ozs up with 100ml of methylated spirits,,and pour it off,,leaving half an oz undissolved,,,this one and a half will crystalize up nicely,,sell the half to doofus fucknuckle down the road...
this will work with any amount,,though the smaller you go the more difficult it gets...
you could try A/Bing it again only adding hydroxide very slowly,,,the hyd in the meth will go into solution,,, so less hydroxide will need to be added...
good luck
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#3
 2003-12-06, 01:24
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kman 
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Re: What is this?
Swim once fucked up and grabbed a can of MEK instead of VM&P, and got a similar result. Swim did try to salvage something in a manner similar to what Kirb said, and did get a little back, but learned to look at his cans of solvents before pouring them. Anyway, swim wishes everyone a merry crystal-mas! Yeehaw! BzzzZzzZzzzzzzzzzzzZzzzzzzz!
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#4
 2003-12-06, 20:33
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madchemist 
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Re: What is this?
SWIM has had a little bit pop before, but it was mainly when crystal (meth-HCl) was not dry enough so SWIM that a little bit of H2O would kinda pop out of a melting meth crystal as it's bp is much lower than meth HCl.
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#5
 2003-12-07, 21:35
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shadoemann 
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Re: What is this?
People are telling me that it isn't anything. But after a/b ing and evapping what the hell else would crystalize. It has to be real. However, this is first time so what would I know.
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#6
 2003-12-07, 23:27
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kman 
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Re: What is this?
Take it from me, I know. lye will crystallise. There's nothing like trying to smoke some of that and having some go up your straw and on your lips to make a believer out of you.
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#7
 2003-12-09, 19:06
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shadoemann 
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Re: What is this?
What is methylated spirits. I went to Fleet Farm and they had methyl ethyl ketones or mineral spirits.
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#8
 2003-12-09, 19:27
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Wicked_Rain 
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Re: What is this?
i believe its everclear.
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#9
 2003-12-09, 19:44
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GOD_Burnsout 
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Re: What is this?
I'd guess methanol.
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#10
 2003-12-10, 03:16
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kirby 
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Re: What is this?
methylated spirits is a commonwealth version of methanol,,formulated so our indiginous peoples dont drink it..
run with methanol if thats all you can get..
isopropyl is better though
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#11
 2003-12-10, 23:43
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kman 
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Re: What is this?
If you folks have heet in your auto parts stores, then there you have both iso and methyl alkies.
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#12
 2003-12-20, 19:29
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shadoemann 
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Re: What is this?
It still didn't help. When I put it on tinfoil it snapped and popped like popcorn. I don't know what I did but I'll try again.
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#13
 2003-12-21, 00:08
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gottagogo 
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Re: What is this?
Popping and crackling doesn't mean anything bad necessarily. The correct answer came way up above when madchemist said they weren't dry yet. I don't know if it's dryness so much as some kind of curing maybe.
Anyway, if you want to smoke some now, just melt it slowly, flame off and on until its completely melted. When it recrystallizes, you can melt it and it won't pop anymore. Tomorrow or 36-48 hours after you filtered the dual solvent, it won't behave that way anymore.
Please verify if this is what you experience. It has happened more than a few times around these parts, every time quality was exceptional.
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#14
 2003-12-21, 04:33
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eesakiwi 
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Re: What is this?
Kirbys right about the commonwealth version called meths.
What we get is anything from 90%Ethanol, 10% Methanol. To 90%Methanol + 10%?.
The Dentists used to use it as a disinfectant, the smell was different from the meths now.
They had almost all ethanol then.
They throw the methanol in to denature it.
Sometimes Bitrex to make it taste bad.
They make methanol in NZ's North Island.
The Goverment sold it off a few years ago.
Will probably be the car fuel of the future.
Ask around, white meths can be got from the right places.
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#15
 2003-12-21, 07:56
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KrackleBack 
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Re: What is this?
First time Swik did a dual solvent recrystalization on his birch dope, it popped all over the place.
Lye wasn't used in the a/b. and it didnt pop before the Worlock dual solvent w/ meoh.
after it cured for a day, it didnt pop nearly as much. Maybe because the absolutely most beautiful pile of long ass crystals imaginable had crushed into much smaller crystals? dried maybe?
it has happened a few times since. Each time high quality popback-krackleback
Swik was thinking it would also help if disolved and evaporated in water or acl. he thought it was cool so he didnt try to fix it.
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#16
 2003-12-21, 20:39
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Uncle Bill 
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Re: What is this?
SWIM's experience with it cracking and popping is from hcl left on the go-go. But with all the purification that was done on the go-go, I don't think this applies to you.
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#17
 2003-12-22, 18:38
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shadoemann 
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Re: What is this?
I'm glad gottago replied because I was following his threads when having my dream. He seems extremely knowlegable and most important practical. I left the goodies back in missouri so I'll try to fix in two months when I get back. I know I fucked up the recrystalization (worlocks) I didn't get the crystals to disolve in the alcohol.
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