SWIM tried placing an order for piperidine.

However SWIM received a notice in the email saying that they don't accept personal credit cards nor do they ship DEA regulated chemicals to resident addresses. They also said they couldn't locate SWIM's pseudo company.

Also SWIM found out that they may have already withdrew money from the account. The last thing SWIM needs is the feds knocking at his door.

SWIM however, ordered a bottle of ether from them fuckers before. Whats the deal??

the deal is you are not very smart. shakes head. no offense intended just fact up man.

Well if ur so smart and can think of a better way to obtain DEA watched chemicals, I'd like to hear it.

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Well if ur so smart and can think of a better way to obtain DEA watched chemicals, I'd like to hear it.



Synthesize them from unwatched precursors dumbass. Seriously that was a very stupid and ignorant thing you did. You have no business with any either of those chemicals, and you deserve what you have brought upon yourself.

Consider yourself lucky if you don't end up incarcerated, being used as a sex toy by big muscle bound homos that call you bitch!

Good grief. It was silly to try to order a List I chemical (assuming you're in the US) from a big company and have it shipped to your home address. Are you wanting to make PCP? IIRC, piperidine can be replaced by a variety of other (unwatched) amines to make PCP analogs of very similar activity.

Here's how you get List I chemicals: You make them YOURSELF. If you can't handle that you should find a different hobby/business. Of course that's not how the big clandestine labs get their chemicals, but it's how every smart small-scale chemist will work.

Still, I'd be astounded if anyone's gone to jail simply for a single botched attempt at ordering listed chemicals. I certainly wouldn't want to try ordering other chemicals - listed or not - to the same address, or using the same credit card, after a mistake like you made.

quote:Originally posted by KamikazePimp:

Well if ur so smart and can think of a better way to obtain DEA watched chemicals, I'd like to hear it.

lol just like every one said, you make them. sometimes you have to make the chems to make the chems to make the chems so to speak. get my drift?

at least thats what i heard.

my votes with Kman,,

kamikaze has got a similar disease to sutts handondictomy,,only his is slipindictomy

Those fuckers cancelled SWIM's order, yet they withdrew the $30.90 from SWIMs account.

I'm hoping they don't plan on jacking SWIMs $30.90 as a way to blackmail SWIM.

quote:Originally posted by KamikazePimp:

Those fuckers cancelled SWIM's order, yet they withdrew the $30.90 from SWIMs account.

I'm hoping they don't plan on jacking SWIMs $30.90 as a way to blackmail SWIM.

If i were you i wouldnt be worried about the 30$.Youve got bigger things on your plate to worry about.Alfa Aesar is the biggest chemical company in the US.They have bigger fish to fry than you.There not gonna keep your crummy $30.90.However they may submit your name to the proper authorities!By law they are supposed to.I still dought even with your name being turned in that they do any thing over a $30.90 order.I cant believe you gave your real name!Learn a lesson from this and everyone else that reads this thread should to.Can chems be had from alfa and other chem companys without getting busted or heat drawn to you or others?Yes you can but your gotta bee slick and most aint!What makes the difference between the men and the boys is the chems they aquire!Thats the bottom line!

damn dude i aint going to tell you that was dumb .everyone else is doing that .

so i will tell you this thay cant do a damn thing to you . if thay were going to bust you thay would have sent the stuff with the dea in tow.

count yourself lucky but you did just put your name on a watch list . so get rid of what you got get out of the bizz, or move from where you live .

dude fuck the 30.90 lol jesus. they should take your 30.90 as a penalty for a temporary lapse of sanity on your part. stupidity is never free, remember that. thats why they call it clandestine labs. so gather and hunt your items in a clandestine manner never telling anyone shit. if you do feel compelled or are backed into a corner then simply lie your ass off. never have a set schedule on anything. purposly mislead when asked when you will be around when you will be back etc. the master that taught me many years ago did that to me all the time. i would ask him, when will you be back he would say without skipping a beat 2 days, 3 days, a few hours etc. yet he would NEVER appear when he said. once he told SWIM he would be back in 4 hours and SWIM dint see him for 9 days. as SWIM learned from him he started figuring out the strategy of this. as time went by he would tell SWIM ill be back on wed for example and SWIM would say, yeah right, he would say no shit man thu at the latest. SWIM would look at him and say, when i hear your footsteps, you have arrived. finally he told me fact up what im telling you now. trust no one, be furtive, if you say your gonna be some where at 9 am get there at 11 pm- the next day. have no schedule and no routine. and always remember- just cause your paranoid dont mean they arent out to get you.

Upon closer examination, they didn't withdrawl SWIMs $$$ afterall.

all's well that ends well