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Laboratory Tips Safety proceedures, test reagents, drilling rubber stoppers, bending glass tubes, etc. Contributed to by chemists.

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Old 2003-11-25, 17:03
sparkey1311 sparkey1311 is offline
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SwimÂ’s copy of the slacker reaction gives quantities of 1/.8/1.2 e/rp/i2. Swim is wondering how much DH2O is used if any.
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Old 2003-11-25, 17:44
Str8_Shooter! Str8_Shooter! is offline
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Those ratios are for under 1 oz. The ratios for an ounce plus are: 1/.3/1. (I would be patient and wait until I had enough materials for "at least" an ounce, that's really not that much at all, and good results are easier to achieve.)

AM (Slacker's daddy), under the slacker's specifics, suggests 1 20oz. bottle cap of Dh2o for every 28g's (1oz.)

I use the Lava Lamp Method however, and I suggest 2 cap fulls, unless you are going to inject Dh2o into the rxn periodically (as the sides begin to lose thier moisture) in which case I suggest 1 cap full at the onset, and a 60 unit dose every 45 minutes to 1 hour after that for "no more" than 6 hours, after that you're just spinning your wheels. (If you did everything right anyway.)
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Old 2003-11-25, 19:17
sparkey1311 sparkey1311 is offline
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Shooter,

If swim were to start with 28g of e swim would add 8.4g rp and 28g I2, correct? Swim's dreams usually include a friedrich or 400mm graham condenser with a balloon on a round bottom flask and a heating mantel. The mbrp comes from D.D. Bean and sons. Swim has not been able to get it clean and thinks the glue they use is the problem. It does not dissolve with acetone or alcohol it turns into a sticky glob with a disgusting smell that gags you like when the Doctor sticks that swab down your throat to get a culture sample. So swim questions the quality of rp being used and is wondering if the ratio of .3 should be adjusted.

What size rb flask do you suggest using for 1oz? 1000ml? Last question; is there a difference in the tincture used for animals and the kind found at the pharmacy? Swim is wondering because 28g of crystals from a pint of 7% using 1pt h2o2, 3pt DH2O and a cup of murry is all swim gets. Taking into account sloppy procedure no skill and poor coordination swim thinks there should be more than 28g pulled. Is it possible swim is getting 2% tincture in a bottle that is only labeled as 7% tincture? Farmer John would never know the difference whould he? If there is no more color to the mixture of tincture does that indicate all has been pulled that can be? Thanks for taking the time to read my idiot ramblings swim is grateful and thanks you.
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Old 2003-11-26, 00:40
kman kman is offline
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That sounds a little skimpy on the RP-maybe 9-10grams?
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Old 2003-11-26, 06:03
Str8_Shooter! Str8_Shooter! is offline
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First up is your RP. Tone nor alcohol alone are sufficient for any MBRP. However, a bath in hot muriatic (10 seconds microwave, PLENTY of ventillation) not only disolves the toughest glue they have, but also vaporizes a lot of the paper and other impurities in MBRP. It'll have the red look that true "raw" red has, and it'll be closer to its potency. And you know what good red means?

A 500ml RB should have no problems with 2 1/2- 3ozs. I know some will disagree...try it.

Your I2 yield isn't that bad, considering your limited hands-on...ESPEACIALLY CONSIDERING YOU ONLY NEED 2oz's OF MURIATIC/ PINT!
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Old 2003-11-26, 12:38
Infosponge Infosponge is offline
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I read that aluminium powder would be a good rp substitute? Does not sound right though...any feedback thanks
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Old 2003-11-26, 13:21
Str8_Shooter! Str8_Shooter! is offline
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Negative.
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Old 2003-11-28, 12:02
sparkey1311 sparkey1311 is offline
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Shooter,

Swim read I2 extraction of geez's agian. It says: "per liter of 7% tinc 25ml hci(37%) add 500ml water add with stirring, one liter 3% h2o2. or since you are american, a pint of tinc, a pint of peroxide, a cup of water and a shot glass of acid. stir well, let sit. let sit. give it four hours at least."

Swim is looking at the 500ml h2o or a cup of h2o in american. would 500ml produce low return?
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Old 2003-11-28, 17:41
kman kman is offline
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I don't think the water would have an effect on your return.
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Old 2003-11-28, 20:24
madchemist madchemist is offline
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I don't think that aluminum powder would be a total substitue for rp in the rxn, however aluminum does help with I2 recycling and HI production.
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Old 2003-12-04, 09:25
Infosponge Infosponge is offline
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How much aluminium powder would you use if using the 1e/1.2I2/.8rp method?
 
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