I figured no one in the basic drugs forum would know what this is, and as some of you have some pretty deep chemistry knowledge i figured id ask here. What is 2,5 dimethoxyallylbenzene? I did a little research and I think its some sort of precursor in amphetamine type drugs (meth and mdma) but im not sure. The reason i ask is because some research companies are starting to sell it as a "legal form of meth". If you have any information of this chemical and what if any effects it would have if taken recreationally, please help me out. thanks

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I agree the people at neonjoint don't seem too bright. At least quasi-legitnate research companies like ACS, just sell the chemicals and don't try to "sell" you on them. If you've done enough research to know what 5-meo-dmt is, you should know what its effects are and shouldn't have to be told "its like legal LSD" etc.

I was basically wondering if the compound is active at all. Anyways, IAP seems to be interesting, though there is not much info on it out there, only a half dozen Erwoid experiences, etc. It sounds like a it gives you semi-amphetamine like energy, some visual trailing effects, and a positive outlook and good mood. I know its a cliche but almost likened to a low mdma dosage albeit different. If anyone has tried IAP, I'd be interested to know what you thought of it.

[This message has been edited by Iceberg Slim (edited 11-22-2003).]

what is it????

its a drug!!!!

Neonjoint is not a "research company" - they are a bunch of idiots that determined to get some chemicals scheduled in the US. That is what they are.

2,5 dimethoxyallylbenzene aka TMA

first off neonjoint is selling it way too low.

its related to mescaline.

it prolly has way less 'speedy' effect as they say it does. http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal157.shtml



if u want something from neon joint either get IAP or DXM 500's ... go ahead waste ur money.

correction that IAP is hella cheap. 1 gram of it costs 200$ at ACS but on neonjoint its only 70$(for 1.05grams) very cost effective.

[This message has been edited by My-Excuse (edited 11-22-2003).]

quote:Originally posted by My-Excuse:

2,5 dimethoxyallylbenzene aka TMAHOW DO YOU FIGURE THAT?

You thought correctly. 2,5-dimethoxyallylbenzene is a precursor for certain Phenethylamines. It's hardly a legal form of methamphetamine.



For the record, TMA is 3,4,5-trimethoxyamphetamine.

Thank you.

This is an inactive precursor, albeit a precursor for no method I've ever seen. At best it can be oxidized into a very useful precursor but if it costs more than a dollar a gram it is useless.

2,5,dimethoxyallylbenzene is nothing more than what tryp said....

an inactive precursor, that is similar in structure to safrole.

A wacker oxidation would form 2,5-DM-P2P. Reductive amination with ammonia would yeild 2,5-DMA (2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine). 2,5-DMA is inactive itself. However, dissolving the freebase in glacial acetic acid, and adding Br2, will precipitate DOB (4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine), a very wonderful drug, and 2-CB's amphetamine cousin (see PiHKAL).

On the flip side, oxidation of the side chain with something like chromic acid will yeild the aldehyde, which is condensed with nitromethane to yeild the nitrostyrene. The nitrostyrene is reduced via CTH, to yeild the phenylethylamine counterpart, 2-CH (2,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine). Bromination of it's freebase like the DMA will yeild the drug 2-CB (4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine). Look DOB and 2-CB up on Erowid to find out more info on these drugs.

oops when i typed in 2,5 dimethoxyallylbenzene on erowids search it came up with the TMA vault so i didnt bother looking at the name.

so ur saying that 2,5 dimethoxyallylbenzene can be used to make DOB or 2c-b? interesting...