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Old 2003-11-20, 21:20
gudstuph gudstuph is offline
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Default kirbs, harl, spook...

where does one satisfy a search for iodine in the land of weird marsupials?

besides stealing it from labs, i think im pretty sure iodine tinct. is prescription only...
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Old 2003-11-20, 21:52
kirby kirby is offline
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dont know
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Old 2003-11-20, 23:03
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*shaking his head...mumbles under breath*



When are these lazy bastards gonna get off their asses and freakin search... one time!
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Old 2003-11-20, 23:52
kirby kirby is offline
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he is an aussi,,

you know what there like lways,,

we gotta cut them a heap of slack,,

if aussies were any good at anything the english wouldnt have transported us all to

butthole heaven
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Old 2003-11-21, 05:46
gudstuph gudstuph is offline
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well Lways i would but im not at my humble abode of boong-land

u see im a few thousand miles north, where the meth is cheap but u get shot if u get caught with it
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Old 2003-11-21, 06:54
wantaknowtotse wantaknowtotse is offline
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Not sure where the "land of weird marsupials" is, but you should be able to find this in the pharmacy section, antisepic area ie; where band-aids peroxide ext is. This is a topical antiseptic,comes in a small brown bottle, 1oz size. Hope this helps. quote:Originally posted by gudstuph:

where does one satisfy a search for iodine in the land of weird marsupials?

besides stealing it from labs, i think im pretty sure iodine tinct. is prescription only...
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Old 2003-11-21, 08:57
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Hi dude... i'm not the best person to ask about the extraction of iodine, or its sources i haven't really looked into it.. i take it the "coldfinger" method suggested to you by sam was not to your liking .. all i know is that i have seen it in the chemists ..but all i saw was in the form of povidone/iodine .. there is one sugestion i have been meaning to make and that concerns a teat care product sold by agricultural stores to cow cockies that contains 5% iodine, i haven't looked into it because i don't have the need but the same methods for extracting it from the tinct will probably work for this as well. ??

If you are interested i can give you the name of it ..but i think it might only come in pack sizes of 25L and up .. i'm not sure on that one ..

sorry i can't be of more assistance ..
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Old 2003-11-21, 09:25
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Sorry bout that...



Hit them cattle stores/petstop/horse care....they sell that 7% tincture. Switrd got some just the other day...called, durvet or something like that. It only costs about 6 or 7 dollars for a pint. Tell 'em your friend sent you down to get some iodine so that he can treat his horse's foot.

Spook...the extractions are a little different for either the 2% or the 7%.

Check it----->

Converting iodine tincture

Tincture of iodine is iodide salts in alcohol, it is found in supermarkets in small one ounce bottles. Each bottle can generate a little over a gram of I2 the price has shot up from 0 .60 cents to $1.80 / bottle. Tincture comes in 2% or 7%.

It is also available at feed and tack stores in pints and gallons.

Mail order through horse breeders supply magazines.

Safety #2 When making Iodine from tincture Wear chemical resistant gloves , eye protection, gas mask,work outside, Work over newspaperin case any falls you can easily save it

Formula one

1 pint 7% tincture iodine

3 pints of hydrogen peroxide

2 oz of HCl

1/2 cup of d-H20



Shake it up, in a one gallon jug,

Wait 20 minutes

Filter through a pantyhose

Wring out fluids.

Put iodine crystals in a glass jar,

Re-wash four times with distilled water, cover, shake, pour off the water into a filter

On the final water wash, wash the iodine into a into a fresh filter,

Wring it out hard,

Open up filter roll into a dry filter

Wring out hard

Put crystals in a dark place to dry.

Use a Drying agent like Calcium Chloride store with the I2 in a sealed chamber

Grocery stores, for mildew prevention near the moth balls

I2 is light sensitive and will degrade.

When completely dry store in light resistant container..

Formula 2

4 part Lab Procedure as follows.

materials

1) 1000 ml 2% Iodine tincture = 2.5%I+2.5%KI in etOH and H2O =-

2) 250 ml Muriatic acid = 34.4%HCl

3) 475 ml Hydrogen peroxide = 3% solution of H2O2

4) 1750ml Distilled H2O

In a 1 gallon container (plastic or glass),

mix 1 liter of 2% tincture of iodine

with 250 ml of Muriatic acid

stir and allow to sit for 15 min.

Add 475ml of a 3% hydrogen peroxide

stir and let sit an additional 15 min.

Add 1750 ml distilled H2O

shake and let sit for 15 min more.

An orange water layer appears on top of a dark gray layer of I2.

Pour off most of the the orange water

Add fresh distilled H2O shake and let sit

Pour off most of the the orange water

Wash a total of three times with distilled water

On the last wash pour the I2 into a stack of 5 coffee filters

Wring it dry

roll the iodine ball into 5 dry coffee filters

Wring it dry

Roll it into 5 more dry filters

wring it dry

Put the I2 in a small clean glass jar break up the iodine ball

place the jar of I2 on a piece of cardboard, cover the I2 with a larger jar

put in freezer for several hours

Remove jar of I2, seal it tight, with cellophane then screw on the cap store it in a dark cool environment

From worlock's at Rhodium's
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Old 2003-11-21, 09:46
Spook Spook is offline
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Default Re: kirbs, harl, spook...

ok now that tired has come to the party..

There are several similar products here in OZ one i know very well ..its called Masidyne its around 5%, redidyne is around 2%, (farmdyne also but i don't know a lot about it so hold out on that one it i think it is available in smaller quantities) .. they are available nation wide .. i'll check out farmdyne for you.

There are others out there ..i can check it for you if you really get stuck, at least you got somewhere to start now ..
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Old 2003-11-21, 10:14
gudstuph gudstuph is offline
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spook.. thanks mate!

well im overseas atm so i cant really do much im jus trying to gather as much info as i can before i come home so that i can get my shit together without much fuckin around as soon as i get back

the help is appreciated =p
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Old 2003-11-21, 10:22
Spook Spook is offline
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thats cool understand completely .. if i can help i will ..
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Old 2003-11-23, 09:58
harlequin harlequin is offline
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im startin work in a chemical supply house down in kwinana soon .. im lookin forward to it :>
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Old 2003-11-23, 10:31
kirby kirby is offline
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we all are
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Old 2003-11-24, 10:23
Spook Spook is offline
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hehehe ...yeah i bet, well done harl.

Finally found a way to get phos acid hey ??

And much much more ..very nice ..creds man !!
 
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