Hey guys

Been reading up for a while now, and i've found that Methhead gives the best description of the whole process on the Rhodium website. What do you guys think of that push/pull method? Is what he's said accurate, and is it the best way?

I'm not even close to getting started, but i've found that there are a lot of conflicting views on everything. Have read a lot of posts, but just want to know that i'm not wasting my time with the push/pull on rhodium...

surely throwing a handfull of eph in a peanut butter jar with a handfull of iodine crystals with a third of a handfull of red phos and heat it at 180f for 6 hours would be easier

Excuse my naivety, as i'm admittedly a novice, but can you do something of the sort?

yep

gas might kill you though

You seem to be highly respected here Kirby, so you can point me in the general direction of the best way to cook, and i'll go read...

yeah

try the redphos/iodine recipes at rhodium..

the hardest part is cleaning the iodine,,redphos,,and pseudo

word to that. I agree 100%

the methhead has MANY errors in it and is way outdated

[This message has been edited by acidmelt (edited 11-20-2003).]

Ive yet to try the slacker reaction by our main man acidmelt. And when swim gets good enuff', swim will be hittin' up annie for some lovin. But till then long, wet, seems to be the right direction @42 hr +. What ever happend to methhead anyways?

--kneedragger

(KNEE^ kirby!)

kirby: This will explain it better http://images.kneedraggers.com/wait/pages/150_FL1019PM_217.htm

kirb, acid:

Concerning methheads synth; Exactly how long ago was this written? Because the denatured alky soak and methanol pull still leaves Orange GAKK! Was he just cookin' it dirty per-se till a final acetone/MEK bath? I'm not ragging on his synth at all, just wondering.. later

--kneedragger

Its old.... LONG before orange gakk.... was that even before our good friend peggy sue?

I don't think a long wet 48 hour reflux is nessecary at all. People are going way overboard with these 5 and 6 day refluxes and so on. It is non-sense.

Neither do a wet 12-15 hour reflux, or a 2-4 hour dry p/p. If you can't get good ass quality product from a dry p/p that rivals product from a wet reflux, then your not doing the dry p/p right.

yes mr dragger,, id put the birthdate of the push/pull masturbatory style at around the middle 80s

when i was going to the web address you had posted i thought to myself,,oh no,, the mans a war vet or a gimp with a bad leg and he drags it and here i am taking the piss out of him

thanks anyway for enlightening me on what a kneedragger is,,,

this goes back a few years,,anyone remember what a knee trembler was

quote:Originally posted by kirby:

surely throwing a handfull of eph in a peanut butter jar with a handfull of iodine crystals with a third of a handfull of red phos and heat it at 180f for 6 hours would be easier

Mr. Kirby the wisdom, style and intellect you have portrayed indicates you have been confering with the Wisest of Wizards Welcum

Keep it coming we(no)I enjoy it.

---- Princess

few hour dryer reactions = mostly iodoamphetamine

24hour wetflux = methamphetamine

Its vary simple

If you want fast meth try hypo

I do understand the direction p/p takes aim at: ECONOMIC. A good new condenser can run you $130, even a good used sep can run you $130. A gas can $5.00 I guess even tho wet reflux would be a better alternative, some people (like myself) dont have access to glassware. Although I never done methheads method, I would like to try it with the recommended updated modifications some have suggested.

--kneedragger

Good glassware is much cheaper than that.

I am a begginer/novice and have seen many synthesis available on here, the hive and methhead. I am currently a chem 20 student used to work in a pharmacy until I got busted by my boss stealing dextramphetamine 15mg SR tablets. was still given a chance amazingly to my fucking wild imagination, and I still chose to let go. I was so Dexed out from crushing and snoting SR with Benzodiazapine for so long that I became deleterious. Quit and only had casually done meth for a year before I had worked my way up @ a Shoppers Drug Mart. For a while, I planned on using a product called proenzi 99, which contained the alkaloids needed 8mg ephed and whatever amount of pseudoephedrine.

Shortly after I quit, I for a short time became a needle junkie. Got off of it for the purposes of saving the integrity of my mind. since I had none at the time, and was centered around the controversy of many cicumstantial events. I am interested in making decently fine auality meth, as I have not as many of the resources as most people have intellectually, or so I have come to believe. anyway just tipped a few and wondering if anyone had a response for little old me.

I suggest you choose what looks like it is the most understandable when begginning, usually most methods talked about here work and at Rhodium, Then as you grow try some other methods till you get one that suites you.

The thing is they all pretty much go with this standard .8 RP 1.2 dry iodine 1.5 if wet to 1g of E use as little water as p[ossiable if doing the short dry cook, if it will slide then it's good on H2o, I mean leave a little window in the h2o area, but keep it as dry as ya can, that way your reacting agents stay close to each other and get the job done, you will notice that rp/I2 all pretty much follow a basic guide line in procedure

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few hour dryer reactions = mostly iodoamphetamine

24hour wetflux = methamphetamine



Like I said above, if the fast dry type is done right, then you should get methamphetamine. However I will agree that even if there is only trace amounts of iodo garbage in a dry or wet type, the dry will usually contain more. Once again, if done right, the difference is negligible.

Dry p/p types are very tempermental and tricky to master and perform correctly. A wet reflux is easier to perform and is basically "foolproof".