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Laboratory Tips Safety proceedures, test reagents, drilling rubber stoppers, bending glass tubes, etc. Contributed to by chemists.

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Old 2003-11-17, 23:49
IsoPure IsoPure is offline
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Default Ephedrine HCL Value???

What can one expect to pay for 1kg of pharmaceutical grade Ephedrine HCL on the black market??

Approximately how much methamphetamine can be produced from 1kg of Ephedrine HCL? (Say if somone used a method with 70% yield -- would 1kg result in 700g of methamphetamine?)

Sorry if this is totally off topic.
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Old 2003-11-18, 01:07
NeverSleepy NeverSleepy is offline
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http://www.tulika.com/ sells a kilo of pseudoephedrine hcl for $60, usual black market price is around $300-$500

When calculating yeilds you need to consider molecular weights.

freebases weigh less than salts

600-700g of meth hcl may be reasonable from 1kg
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Old 2003-11-18, 01:10
NeverSleepy NeverSleepy is offline
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Default Re: Ephedrine HCL Value???

Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverSleepy
http://www.tulika.com/ sells a kilo of pseudoephedrine hcl for $60, usual black market price is around $300-$500

When calculating yeilds you need to consider molecular weights.

freebases weigh less than salts

600-700g of meth hcl may be reasonable from 1kg
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Old 2003-11-18, 01:47
kirby kirby is offline
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Default Re: Ephedrine HCL Value???

down here its anywhere from $15000 to $25000
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Old 2003-11-18, 04:05
Sphinx Sphinx is offline
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Default Re: Ephedrine HCL Value???

Kirby's response makes more sense if you asked me.

15,000 US per kg? Wow thats even steeper than I would've thought...

BUMPING this for other peoples estimates, very curious.
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Old 2003-11-18, 04:53
tryptamine tryptamine is offline
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15,000 AUS not USD

I'd also be wary about buying kilos regardless of price, it is really easy to set up a trap for people by putting out a kilo.
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Old 2003-11-18, 05:38
Sphinx Sphinx is offline
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Trypt, whats the cost in canada per KG on black market??
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Old 2003-11-18, 13:05
NeverSleepy NeverSleepy is offline
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Useing a list 1 chem in your trap would be considered entrapment. Thats like giving someone a illegal gun and telling them to do a crime with it. If the justice system was that currupt id have to have the curruptors wacked in the worst way to set an example for future justice system curruptors to play fair or get wacked.
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Old 2003-11-18, 16:06
tryptamine tryptamine is offline
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quote:Originally posted by Sphinx:

Trypt, whats the cost in canada per KG on black market??\

I honestly can't tell you.
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Old 2003-11-18, 16:11
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Default Re: Ephedrine HCL Value???

quote:Originally posted by NeverSleepy:

Useing a list 1 chem in your trap would be considered entrapment. Thats like giving someone a illegal gun and telling them to do a crime with it. If the justice system was that currupt id have to have the curruptors wacked in the worst way to set an example for future justice system curruptors to play fair or get wacked.



You would be amazed.... The laws are easily bent when it comes to the war on drugs. It's a WAR as far as they are concerned, petty crap like that doesn't matter, many people have been busted buying precursors from the cops.

Plus selling someone ephedrine is not entrapment. Entrapment would be giving someone money to buy the ephedrine and then having someone else sell it to them. But I'd be willing to wager that they have busted someone by doing just that.

Hell there are laws that take away your rights if it is suspected you have commited a drug offence. Remember that before terrorism became the #1 political cause it was drugs.
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Old 2003-11-18, 22:23
IsoPure IsoPure is offline
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Well in my dream I have over 1,000kg's of ephedrine HCL and im wondering what price I should sell per KG for here in Canada.

Would $1,000 per KG be a respectable price?
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Old 2003-11-19, 01:55
tryptamine tryptamine is offline
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I'd say that is a pretty reasonable price, you will sell it briskly. However it is also pretty bold to do so. And kinda looks like a "heat bag" if you know what I mean.
 
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