this is stupid question probably, sorry, I am an idiot, but fuck u, I'm proud of it:P

I was shown how to cook meth in a big town, I'm an idiot so i only know the step by step, nothing else.

Now I live in a small town, where everything is limited to get.

Could someone tell me if the nazi method really works to make meth, or if theres another way I could easily make it, I'd really appreciate the help.

went from a big town idiot to a small town idiot huh? Yes the Nazi or better known as the birch reduction works nicely, But the key question is: do you have access to anhydrous ammonia

hmm...yeah...trying to remember where the chemical lot is...but I'm quite sure there is a big tank of that here. I've heard someone makin meth here before was jackin it...I'm kinda not wanting to mess wiht that stuff, but i will if i have to..

yu haf tu

Hey welcum2crankcounty:

If you're thinking about getting some annie, may I recommend this post below.

https://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum26/HTML/003045.html

kirby and Jamiroquai give some grade A info about gear for obtaining it. Here is a few links below SWIM found that will urge SWIM to be very cautious with NH3. http://www.cdc.gov/nasd/docs/d000801-d000900/d000898/d000898.html http://www.extension.iastate.edu/Publications/PM1518D.pdf http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&dopt =Abstract&list_uids=99271905 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=99271905)

Hope it works all well for you, just set the level of your safety proportional to the value of your eyesight. Take it easy bro

--kneedragger

[This message has been edited by kneedragger (edited 11-14-2003).]

alright, thx for ur help guys, specially kneedragger

welcumtocrank man you don't have to steal anhydrous ammonia you can make it with ease and here is how.If you want you can listen to alot of these fools on here who will tell you that it won't work or you need to use less of this or more of that blah blah but man try it for yourself and make some killa ass dope!!!...this is called gas can generator and what you do is go buy a gas can then you go buy some red devil lye and some ammonia nitrate fertilizer its called 34-0-0 and is usely sold at ace hardware stores for 10 or 20$ for 50lb it will have an oxidizer sticker on it then you got the right stuff....go buy you 10lbs of dryice and a hose 1/4inch or soo aquarium hose you can buy that at home depot or ace 2....get you a cooler put the dryice in it then take you a plastic gatorade bottle..next put on the top of the gas can cut a hole in it then put the hose in it tape it up real good then wrap the hose counter clockwise around the gatorade bottle...next shove the gatorade bottle in the middle of the dryice real good so it almost covers the bottle... next put the top on the cooler remember to make sure tape is all around both inserts so that no gas leaks..then pour about 3 cups of ammonia nitrate fertilizer into the gas can and then pour the whole bottle of lye then fill up the bottle of empty lye with water then add the water right after adding the water you will see it shoot out gas close it off fast then get back 45 mins later you will have anhydrous ammonia if you open up the cooler and it will be sittin in liquid form in the gatorade bottle be very careful with the ammonia because it will cause serious burns its worth about 250 a pint and that will make enough ammonia 2 melt 8 strips goodluck!!!!

Find someone who has a class IV refrigeration

recovery license. EPA certified of course, or take the test yourself. Then you can purchase the annie(R717) yourself. This is a viable option, just be careful! Ammonia doesn't play around.

thats a sweet way of getting anhyd ammonia, thx

quote:Originally posted by kirby:

yu haf tu

Right on Kirb.

hey welcum

welcome to the country. now that you have left the city drop DAH bullshit and get into it. here on the plains we take pride in roaming the country side in search of the sacred great white buffalo. listen to the wise ones and remember to always respect her for if you don't she will hurt you bad, but if you do she can please you beyond the stars.

heres to you kirby i'll back you 100% and then some.

the princess

suttleila

Is that shit for real if it is cool thanks.

Kirby word

The only thing I see that might be missing from this contraption ius an inline dryer, to remove any H20 that may linger through the line. make you one out of pvc tubing using your imagination, fill it with calcium chloride or Damp Rid on your grocery store shelf, I never had any luck myself till I used a precooler before the dry ice, but my setup was a little different.

Sam

quote:Originally posted by suttleila:

welcumtocrank man you don't have to steal anhydrous ammonia you can make it with ease and here is how.If you want you can listen to alot of these fools on here who will tell you that it won't work or you need to use less of this or more of that blah blah but man try it for yourself and make some killa ass dope!!!...this is called gas can generator and what you do is go buy a gas can then you go buy some red devil lye and some ammonia nitrate fertilizer its called 34-0-0 and is usely sold at ace hardware stores for 10 or 20$ for 50lb it will have an oxidizer sticker on it then you got the right stuff....go buy you 10lbs of dryice and a hose 1/4inch or soo aquarium hose you can buy that at home depot or ace 2....get you a cooler put the dryice in it then take you a plastic gatorade bottle..next put on the top of the gas can cut a hole in it then put the hose in it tape it up real good then wrap the hose counter clockwise around the gatorade bottle...next shove the gatorade bottle in the middle of the dryice real good so it almost covers the bottle... next put the top on the cooler remember to make sure tape is all around both inserts so that no gas leaks..then pour about 3 cups of ammonia nitrate fertilizer into the gas can and then pour the whole bottle of lye then fill up the bottle of empty lye with water then add the water right after adding the water you will see it shoot out gas close it off fast then get back 45 mins later you will have anhydrous ammonia if you open up the cooler and it will be sittin in liquid form in the gatorade bottle be very careful with the ammonia because it will cause serious burns its worth about 250 a pint and that will make enough ammonia 2 melt 8 strips goodluck!!!!

I usually don't post on threads unless I have a useful contribution or at least "some" relative input. Posting non-topic, non-productive, useless slander is a waste of everyones time and collective effort. Irrelevant, insulting, trash-talk, produces nothing but negativity and I still can't keep myself from having a little bit of fun this once, I'm just kidding, its purely for humor's sake,though I'm not going to say that I'm not 100% serious, and wild buffalo couldn't keep me from saying it this:



FUCK ANNIE!

THAT SHIT IS DIRTY!

I'VE GOT A FRIEND NAMED RED

THAT'LL WHOOP HER ASS FROM HERE TO

CHINA!

(I'm honestly joking, but its true!)

Your an idiot? Ok, you can look foward to death in the future through playing with annie.

[madchemist loads revolver, aims at my forehead.....]

[This message has been edited by madchemist (edited 11-22-2003).]

Can't you also do this, react household ammonia with HCL, you get this solid ammonium chloride, and you mix it with CaO and heat it, should it liberate ammonia gas? then it can be condensed with dry ice?

Household ammonia? WTF?

ok, I know how dangerous annie is, but heres a spot of news, and i dont care what u think about it...I DON'T CARE...

men play with annie

boys play with little red riding hood

Now what we are getting into here is it chevy or ford? Annie has it's positive side, lithium is widely available if you make your own annie your on the hot seat or have access, and you don't have to clean the pills most of the time when cooking with annie, why? because the magnitude of the reaction cooks off alot of the trash, and it's a thrill to experience this reaction, not the mild mannered clark Kent rp/I2 reaction, this bastard gets you adrenaline going, and you can be done from start to finish with a 2 oz cook in 1 1/2 hours, the window for errors is much smaller, I have never ever cooked an annie batch and not walked away with get ya high dope, even on my first attempts, too much lithium and it burns the foil, not enough you don't get a good return, it is easier to fuck yourself up than the dope, RP/I2 that I have become to love, because actually it is better dope, the window for error is huge, too much water or lye, cook time too long or short and so on. Just my opinion here, Now that I have gooten the red and black down ohh baby I gota watch out for the over amp, shit is awesome

[This message has been edited by sam-63 (edited 11-23-2003).]

kirby i would sure like to set down and do a comparison test with you. i believe you would realize anni is for commercial gain and the I2/RP is for personal stash. just remember you didnt see me and i didnt see you and we didnt see a thing.

Here is a thought for you all to consider.

Maybe we could refer to them as the Cranker Twins. Both with so many family traits yet each with their own personalities and friends. It's a thought.

Wicked

With all do respect to you, they are both used for commercial gain and personal stash it just depends on the producer.

Kirby

Isn't Annieland wonderful, care to play.

the

Princess

SWIM dont know princess SWIM is just a rookie in the field. however he dont use it for commercial gain in any fashion strictly recreational. burns clear in the glass looks like mineral oil when hot. cracks back snow white has NO taste. SWIM laughs when people complain that they arent getting a hit, whats up they say i cant taste nothing am i getting it lit then after 3 hits they are spewing outside looking at me thru watery eyes and lips drooling saying goddamn dude that shit is wicked as rain. smoke a 1/4 oz thru your glass and still read a newspaper thru said glass unless some dumbass burns it by overheating. not bragging just fact SWIM says. come april 2004 will make 25 years for SWIM in this game. hes done it all. seen it all. been to the edge and looked over. anyways the ramblings of a rookie SWIM says. recently SWIM gave 8/10ths of a G to three roaddogs. was sat morn at 10:30 when they got it. SWIM didnt see em again untill monday morning at 2:30 AM. 3 men, 8/10ths, 40 hours, heh when SWIM seen em again he said "whos your daddy"

i agree with you wicked insofar as annie is the way to go commercially

but ive always been commercial

i got in it for the money

i got out because the cops were 5 minutes behind me

Wicked

Everything you are saying about phos is true i'm sure. Swim has done some of it but not alot and like Swim said it was great. Here in the great state of iowa your options are mainly annie and stomped on water dope(bad shit)and the juice is plentiful. Swim and crew seldom do larger volume batches and what is made is for person use. Swim doesn't see the need for risking the chance of additional charges. Thats just swims opinion and based on the area from which she is from.

Princess

Wicked

Got a little lost for a few and swim forgot to finish the thought. It was never to imply that commercial gain was your motive. Swim is not a green horn newbie and thought the twin thing was a good way to balance out this issue and let the good dope no matter which type be done by all. Guess swimm was wrong.

quote:Originally posted by buffalo princess:

Wicked

Got a little lost for a few and swim forgot to finish the thought. It was never to imply that commercial gain was your motive. Swim is not a green horn newbie and thought the twin thing was a good way to balance out this issue and let the good dope no matter which type be done by all. Guess swimm was wrong.

SWIM didnt mean to come off sounding like that sweet princess. SWIM has just found thru experience that annie is a dirty lil slut no matter how clean you make every step wheras I2/RP can be so clean that you think your not even getting anything if one takes the time and dilligence to get every step clean.

Wicked

Thats OK swim didn't take it offensively, swim was just trying to clear the air of any bad smoke fumes left lingering. Now about that slut think. We have probably all been there at least once in our lifetime some maybe more (lol). The dope maybe but swim no. As for green swim has 1yr over our friend kirby that is in age not knowledge. Stay in the clouds my friend

Princess

yeah...

My reply was not for you the self proclaimed idiot. Don't speak unless spoken to. Swim would have hoped you would have figured that out by now.

Princess

exactly welcum, remember? you are proud to be an idiot, so be quiet while the grownups talk and maybe some of that idiocy your so proud off might start to diminish. you cant learn when your mouth is moving

i love it

keep the attitude coming you two,,

thank god it isnt only me handing out the sarcastic and witty barbs,,

those who baffle with bullshit,,

can never compete with wisdom and knowledge

yeah but we get tired of your stinking breath all the time slims sista..

strange name that

slims sista

let me guess

your slim and your sista is your right hand

Well Wicked and Kirby at least we KNOW what we are talking about. Instead of wasting our efforts in hopes these two among a few others will ever comprehend, maybe we should show pity and mercy and chalk them up as a lost cause.

Anyway where did this Slim thing come from? Is he Welcums neighbor,brother/cousin, or partner in crime(pre-school level)? Guess the old saying two peas(idiots)in a pod truely applies here.

With crayons in hand they skillfully draw out their next move.(lol) Think they got that one guys.

Princess

I hope no one is foolish enough to take this analogy personally. Its a comparison of two "things", so try not to let your guilty concious give you up, defending yourself from something you aren't being accused of...Again.

Annie is indeed a dirty bitch, who will let most anyone tap into the goods. She's easy. She's smelly and tastes bad, but when she's the only girl in town, she is "The Queen" and the one who can tap it "right" is the king. When she's the only broad in town, her foul stench and taste and the rash she leaves might be worth it.

Around these parts though, NO ONE WILL TOUCH HER! NOT EVEN WITH KIRBY'S DICK (glass of course)! In fact, even if she's the only broad and someone's holdin' a hella' whad...Just mention the name Annie and thier face will cringe automatically, espeacially the local ladies (real ones) If you've got "Annie", unless they're slammin' it...you ain't gettin' "any".

The clean, fair skinned (if it ain't white...it ain't right) Lady my man Wicked mentioned, is by and far the tasters choice...and the gift of her company is most assuredly worth the patience and sophistication...

Once you taste her fruit uncanny, never will you touch skank Annie.

This "fun" little story is dedicated to Wicked Rain and the "craftsman" that have learned to polish a coal into a daimond.

Its nice (in a humble, modest and honest way) to know that your people won't hardly settle for anything but "yours", isn't it Wicked?

Princess and all, I know this is just a cheap shot, and I really don't mean to be "mean", I'm kidding...a little. I shot Annie for 8 years, I loved the bitch, but she destroyed nearly every vien in my body...Even my neck, legs and underarms, which are rich with nerves and arteries...UUUHHHHGGG, makes me sick to even think about that stupid shit!Fuck shootin'

Shooter

"Str8_Shooter", that is^* (no, not like a crack-pipe, I tried that shit a couple of times about ten years ago...I'd be like "I'm not enjoying this at all", "but I sure would like to smoke some more".FUCK THAT!)*^More like the one that "shoots it to you straight"...and shit. Now that my viens are gone I'm more like a Str8_Eater, occasional smok'er...but only when I don't use lubrication on'er! OK I'll shut the fuck up now.....sorry.....

[This message has been edited by Str8_Shooter! (edited 11-26-2003).]

Shooter

Not a problem it's all in having a good time and Swim is sure Wicked is loving it(lol).Swim has seen Annie at her worse but if treated right she can be a smooth lady. Swim is not a banger and never will be(to each his own). Correct Swim if she is wrong, but no matter whats in the rig after so long your veins will go. So don't put all the blame on my friend Miss Annie.

Princess

"exactly welcum, remember? you are proud to be an idiot, so be quiet while the grownups talk and maybe some of that idiocy your so proud off might start to diminish. you cant learn when your mouth is moving"



hahahahahaahahahahahahah.....yeah welcum...children are to be seen, not heard.

quote:Originally posted by SliM's Sista:

Well i guess that leaves you out, ole handondictomy! baffle em with bullshit works every time.

Hey guys lets not forget about Welcums sidekick Slim. His comments are another real showing of intellect. Both should not be seen or heard.

I never had the pleasure of visiting CH but I trust and respect the opinions of many I have met here. From the why it sounds AM is a caring respected honest person. His kind are few and far between these days.

Princess

quote:Originally posted by buffalo princess:

Wicked

Got a little lost for a few and swim forgot to finish the thought. It was never to imply that commercial gain was your motive. Swim is not a green horn newbie and thought the twin thing was a good way to balance out this issue and let the good dope no matter which type be done by all. Guess swimm was wrong.

Hey Hey now!!!! easy on the "greenhorn newbee" thing heehheh

quote:Originally posted by greenhorn164:

Got a little lost for a few and swim forgot to finish the thought. It was never to imply that commercial gain was your motive. Swim is not a green horn newbie

Hey Hey now!!!! easy on the "greenhorn newbee" thing heehheh[/B]

Sorry green no pun intended.

About the lost thing thats what i get for spinning in multiple directions.

Princess

quote:Originally posted by buffalo princess:

Well Wicked and Kirby at least we KNOW what we are talking about. Instead of wasting our efforts in hopes these two among a few others will ever comprehend, maybe we should show pity and mercy and chalk them up as a lost cause.

Anyway where did this Slim thing come from? Is he Welcums neighbor,brother/cousin, or partner in crime(pre-school level)? Guess the old saying two peas(idiots)in a pod truely applies here.

With crayons in hand they skillfully draw out their next move.(lol) Think they got that one guys.

Princess



can u stop being a mean to me plz?

w2cc

Not a problem, keep it together and everything will be fine.

Princess

You're right Princess, all dope destroys viens.

And I have done some killer annie.

Happy Thanksgiving.

quote:Originally posted by suttleila:

welcumtocrank man you don't have to steal anhydrous ammonia you can make it with ease and here is how.If you want you can listen to alot of these fools on here who will tell you that it won't work or you need to use less of this or more of that blah blah but man try it for yourself and make some killa ass dope!!!...this is called gas can generator and what you do is go buy a gas can then you go buy some red devil lye and some ammonia nitrate fertilizer its called 34-0-0 and is usely sold at ace hardware stores for 10 or 20$ for 50lb it will have an oxidizer sticker on it then you got the right stuff....go buy you 10lbs of dryice and a hose 1/4inch or soo aquarium hose you can buy that at home depot or ace 2....get you a cooler put the dryice in it then take you a plastic gatorade bottle..next put on the top of the gas can cut a hole in it then put the hose in it tape it up real good then wrap the hose counter clockwise around the gatorade bottle...next shove the gatorade bottle in the middle of the dryice real good so it almost covers the bottle... next put the top on the cooler remember to make sure tape is all around both inserts so that no gas leaks..then pour about 3 cups of ammonia nitrate fertilizer into the gas can and then pour the whole bottle of lye then fill up the bottle of empty lye with water then add the water right after adding the water you will see it shoot out gas close it off fast then get back 45 mins later you will have anhydrous ammonia if you open up the cooler and it will be sittin in liquid form in the gatorade bottle be very careful with the ammonia because it will cause serious burns its worth about 250 a pint and that will make enough ammonia 2 melt 8 strips goodluck!!!!

so, has anyone ever tried this, and if so, would it not make sense to go ahead and add the batteries, fuel and psuedo to the bottle that will collect the ani? could this even be done on that big of a scale, or is just creating the ani the issue here?