Ahhk....Switrd finaly got around to trying to gas. He claims to have done everything as was stated by rainman and kirby in another post. Had a difficult time finding damp rid. Kept sending gopher back out to look...and DON'T COME BACK WITHOUT IT, he would yell. So he eventually did find it, and purchased a big milk carton looking thing. So he added some of the "driveway cleaner" to about 1- 1 1/2 inches of this granular damp rid. In the bottom of his make-shift (ghetto style) generator....things began to smoke, ever so lightly. So as stated in the text....he waits about 10 minutes, then hooks it up to the pump. Bam!! We have lift off!! So he thought. He bubbles for about 15 seconds (being cautious) then stops. Then begins the fresh air treatment...(unplugged from generator)continue to pump air.

Now the mixture did get cloudy, but not a single snow flake! And it stayed cloudy..in fact it still is here 30 minutes later. Why did this not work? Oh yeah...for the sake of just knowing the shit wasn't tainted...Switrd also took some of the reaction fluid and titrated it as he normaly does, and there was a return of some 3 hittin, I best be quittin kind.

Thank you in advance for your help.

Tell me if ya need anymore details.

you gassed it for 15 and it went cloudy..

good

filter that

save filter and use next time

gas again for 20 secs

filter and a little bit is attained

and the third gassing itl jump out

ill be online awhile

get back to me with what happens

Thank you kirby....I'll be back

DONT pump it with fresh air--there may be a high water air content

Can we get a round off applause for "Da Man", kirby?! That was some super help, right at the time when Switrd needed it. Thank you so much kirbman. *^5's 'em* That was the other part of this small 5gm attempt at gassing. When switrd tried it this way yesterday....he got a cloudy mixture and thought that was it. Didn't realize he had to do it again and again. ahahaha

Frustrated...he let that part of it sit where it was. In an attempt to salvage anything...He titrated the other part of the np. Which did yield some. He was elated to see that the goods were still in there all along. I appreciate your quick help. Switrd wouldn't of thrown it away anyway. He learned a while back what can happen when you think all is lost.

Oh yeah...what did you mean...there may be a high water air content??

as you know i ammonia/sodium metal

i also mix suplhuric with hydrochloric to get my gas,,wicked stuff,do it up wind,but it gives a diff taste i like

i dont pump air through it

the water content in the air would get in the np

you may easily have .5ml of water for litre of air you pump through

thatd go straight into the np,suck your meth

and it wont come out

Ahhh I see. Thanks again kirby. Switrd is hoping to do this again soon. He said something about upping the amounts of everything. Probably into a 10 to 20gm synth. But not before purchasing the proper glassware. I hope you or someone else happens to be around for that one, in case he runs into trouble.

if you can do nano,,youll be fine

the bigger the easier

Hey, Tired! Kirby is right on again, damn it.

If I recall, WR said the gassin works best with larger amounts. Bill has found if doin

nanos, titration seems to favor better, but

the second time tried w/15 grms. Snowflakes

a dancin! As time and experience goes, Bill

will probably per-fect his ability to gass smaller amounts. But the ease and the non-worry about havin to ph the hcl makes it so appealing. It's hard to change styles right

when you have just learned the only way you know how, if this makes any sense. Bill's learning to tune up his nasal cavity for the

"ole fishy smell"! LOL. Oh yea, try to curb that 3 hitter back to a 2 hitter, gotta quit her! Bill got back 1/4 oz. of sweet mama

Make sur the np solvent containing your freebase is dry, as in dry it after you extract your goods not before. Try running the gas through a couple of drying tubes filled with damp rid also. Did you bake that damp rid to make sure it was totally dry before you used it?

Wow...all the great tips, thank you all. amalgum...Switrd hadn't even thought of that. Damn it. Well I will for sure inform him on this new insight. Well, not exactly new..but.

Oh yeah...(having a brain freeze) Drying his np?? As in...like filtering it through baked epsoms?

bill....Switrd had a hard time with the fishy smell deal too. All he could smell he said, was the damn xylene.

You should have gasses with co2, its easy and you get solid chunks of freebase meth.

No smell, no danger.

You can even use carbonated water/evap.

cocaine hcl~~~> Crack

meth hcl ~~~~> whoo im high

quote:Originally posted by kirby:

as you know i ammonia/sodium metal

i also mix suplhuric with hydrochloric to get my gas,,wicked stuff,do it up wind,but it gives a diff taste i like

i dont pump air through it

the water content in the air would get in the np

you may easily have .5ml of water for litre of air you pump through

thatd go straight into the np,suck your meth

and it wont come outOk kirby, I have to ask how a guy goes about using both acids to gas? Do you mix together or what? Swim would like to get some more info from you. Using the annie lithium reaction and some of the processes seen on here are alot differant than anything us Iowans use.

NeverSleepy...can gassing with co2 really be done? Does it require anything else? I mean, all you do is bubble co2 through your np? Why hasn't anyone mentioned this?



Chef-wallah.....kirby said this--->"as you know i ammonia/sodium metali also mix suplhuric with hydrochloric to get my gas"

So that should answer your queston. Yes he does mix the two acids to get his gas.



Hey, nobody answered my question about drying my np...^up there.

Tired, that one came outta no where! Bill never dried his np and got excellent results.

Nor did he dry his Damp-Rid either. When chef

WR sees this, everybody will have to be accountable for their actions! Bill looked again and again in WR's Bible and saw nothing about drying either one of these! So, everybody line up for inspection. WR checking shoes, hair, smell of fish! Said nothing about dryness of np or calcium chloride. ATTENTON! No passes this weekend!!

Pvc stillbill reporting for duty, SIR. hehe

lol SWIM drys his tone but has never bothered to dry his xylene. where SWIM lives the humidity is very low especially in the winter. lucky if theres 70% humidity in the air so runnin the air pump is no problem. humidity will effect the outcome but damn man are you runnin the air pump outside in a rainstorm? SWIM has never baked his damprid either. for those of you that cant find damprid or are to lazy to look for it heres the addy: http://www.damprid.dsiwebbuilder.com/index.asp?cat=40019

if you cant smell the fish then your not above 12.8 in ph yet or your smeller is fucked from snorting to much dope and/or cut lol. SWIM has a buddy that cant smell the fish not even if it was rotting in his shirt pocket. when you open the xylene smell it then smell your mother jar, when you get your ph above 12.8 to 14 your mother jar will smell different from the fresh xylene, if your smeller isnt fucked you will smell the difference. if in doubt smell the fresh xylene and then the mother jar back and forth as you basify the water layer. madchemist is a wise one so if he says something pay attention. if he says the damp rid may be dryer by baking it then it is worth checking into altho SWIM has experienced excellent results with damprid in the gasser as he has posted. SWIM dont use damprid for dryong solvents for that SWIM uses the standard baked off epsoms salt.

ill agree with wicked again

ive never dried my np before gassing until just lately

before when i was doing 6 x 200 gram cooks there was that much gear a small loss was never noticed

now im only doing 50 to 60 grams for personel ive tried drying

cant notice the diff really

i evap my np at the end and theres still nothing there

but

if the brothers say dry it

dry it

something else

down here even though its as dry as a nuns cunt

night time the air is that moist you can be damp after a 5 min walk

[This message has been edited by kirby (edited 11-09-2003).]

Yeah bill....me too. I'm gonna tell switrd about it. And he'll at least give it a try and see. It can't hurt anything. There's always room for improvement. Switrd knows mad by his other alias and knows that he indeed is very experienced, and definately knows what he's talking about.

Thanks again for all of your helpful input.

especialy kirb....."down here even though its as dry as a nuns cunt" hahahahahahahahahah

Yes, I do remember this smart dude, also. When Bill was first learning this and that, this guy, A~~~~~m, used to advise me about

about small, but critical info out of no where. Everytime he would post info, I couldn't believe his intelligence about chem.

Later

Drop dry ice into your np

ALAKAZAM POOF!

highly adictive frebase meth carbonate sitting at the bottom.

you sounds like the fuckin idiot to me you dumbfuk don't even know how to gas off dope and swim knows 2 different ways man you must be a fucking fool

Sleepy is no dumbfuck or fool! You dream to have his innovative knowledge. To slam someone because you don't understand organic chemistry is utter non-sense and ludicrous.

no it isnt bill

its one of the many symptoms of handondictomy and cornholio

Kirby, I believe you are absolutely correct!!

Ahahahahha LOL, damn tormenting handondictomy

and the anal itching cornholio! hehe

Suttle is just angry cuz his parents wooped his ass for turning everything in the tool shed rusty from his poor gassing techneek.

Its okay suttle, ill send you some WD-40 for x-mas.



UTFSE! "meth carbonate"

You say you know 2 ways to gas lol im vary proud of you *clap clap

slutt, or poop...or whatever the fuck you call yourself. Why don't you go light yourself on fire again? It's ok to not know something, and ask for instruction. It's being a slutt...(like yourself) that claims to know 3 or 4 or 10 thousand ways to make meth, meth from mdma, how to do it in a 2 liter plastic bottle while driving down the highway, now thats beyond being a fucking jackass. It must suck to be you.

suckleila

bunch of fukin loosers!!!!

another thing i was talkin to alwayzsleepy but that sounds pretty fukin cool bout the meth carbonate neversleepy...does it still burn the same and taste ya know as good as meth hcl...whats the difference in them....and far as gassin kirby using hydrochloric and sulfuric man you gotta be the dumbest fucker in here because you should either choose sulfuric/iodized salt or hydrochloric/foil not both wtf.... =)

suckleila

whats a looser

is like your a loosy

and i cant be bothered explaining my reasons

there above you

Compareing meth hcl and meth carbonate is like comparing coke and crack.

but you can't snort crack so i guess you can't snort carbonate either right? and i just mentioned the dryice to my friend he told me that it would release nitrogen into the np but he said what would it pull back to bond so that when you filtered it wouldn't break up again???? if you could explain what exactly happens when you drop the co2 into the np/freebase solvent

it gets colder

"it gets colder"