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Laboratory Tips Safety proceedures, test reagents, drilling rubber stoppers, bending glass tubes, etc. Contributed to by chemists.

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Old 2003-09-30, 04:10
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Default Turn Ice "Sand" into Rock

If swim wanted to turn some ice that is a fine consistency,like sand, back into rock or plate like form how would he go about doing it?
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Old 2003-09-30, 04:42
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i must ask this as there is a couple of substances called ice,,,,,,do you know,if you have 4-methyl-aminorex,,,,,or do you have crystalized methylamphetamine ,,,,,,,,,,,,,ill ignore the rest as they dont have much relevance to lab tips eg,"information concealment engine",,mind you, rock is a good name for it as the fucker dont give back shit until you melt it,,
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Old 2003-09-30, 04:44
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Default Re: Turn Ice "Sand" into Rock

Candy assumes by "ice" you are reffering to an amine.hcl?

If this is the case, she recommends...

Add just enough MeOH to your amine.hcl that it takes to dissolve.

Allow to sit undisturbed, in a cool dry place, until MeOH fully evaporates.
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Old 2003-09-30, 04:49
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incase you dont know ,,you say it looks like sand,,when rubbed between thumb and forefinger is its texture similar to fine glass,,meth you can rub into a dry paste very quickly,,,but ice stays fine silica granules
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Old 2003-09-30, 04:55
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mnm,,,you wouldnt advise anyone on crystalizing methamphetamine hcl that way,,not at all,,be fair to these people--either put the time in and give a full and frank explanation,,or dont bother,,cause what yourve written is misleading,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but i will say that you have explained one way in which you can take ice granules and reset them back into a block
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Old 2003-09-30, 05:00
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This stuff is ice methamphetamine, clear and beautifull. There is a need to make it more rock like as thats what is being requested and I have no prob giving it like that, I thought about dropping some distilled water on the glass like silica sand, let it pool together and then when the water evaps the plates-rock would be left......I dunno
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Old 2003-09-30, 05:09
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Default Re: Turn Ice "Sand" into Rock

Methanol is still a better choice than water...
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Old 2003-09-30, 05:12
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I thought about methanol, but I dont know where to find it. Any word on items that are pretty much exclusively methanol? Also why methanol? Peace...
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Old 2003-09-30, 05:16
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Depending on your location, there are various OTC methods for aquiring MeOH (methanol).

If in the USA, HEET the gasline water removal additive in the yellow bottle contains methanol.
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Old 2003-09-30, 05:51
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So basically add just enough of this heet to dilute the stuff then let the liquid (heet-methanol) evap, then ill have my plates-rock....swim will have I mean....
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Old 2003-09-30, 05:58
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Default Re: Turn Ice "Sand" into Rock

Just enough to completely dissolve it.

Then allow to evaporate in a cool dry place, undisturbed to allow crystal formation.

If you disturb the recrystallization it won't yield the larger lattice you are in search of.
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Old 2003-09-30, 06:13
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hmm,,ok i see what your asking,,yes mnm is correct with the method described,,if you want to do it in an hour,,get a flat tray pyrex baking dish and put all your ice in it,,then pour in enough methanol or other alcohol;(isoprpyl does well)to just cover(about 5 mm depth is fine) and then low heat,,,all the ice will disolve and the methanol will begin to evaporate,,watch it closely until you begin to see solids appear on the surface,,then take off hotplate and allow to cool at room temp,,,youll see a viscous gravy clear cream appear,,this will begin to get harder,,,when its solid but not firm,,,razor blade it up and itl roll into rough edged rocks but wont be dry,,allow the rocks to dry in a warm dark room
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Old 2003-09-30, 19:35
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Default Re: Turn Ice "Sand" into Rock

You speak of ice being meth, but ice is a whole different ballgame than meth. Two totally different drugs!
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Old 2003-09-30, 20:26
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ice can mean either meth or u4euh, it depends where you live. because its called one name here dont mean its called the same thing there. anyways this has all ready been covered.....

mnm you forgot to tell them that the longer it takes to evaporate the nicer the crystals!!! if you gotta have the big ones swia recomends putting the methanol in the freezer to evaporate. it willl take a long time and your methanol has to be totally anhydrouus but its well worth the wait.
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Old 2003-10-02, 09:07
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i read somewhere that acetone & water brews nice crystals over 10 days or more.

Whats recomended, acetone - methanol ??

do you just dry methanol to get anyhydrous methanol ?
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Old 2003-10-02, 09:39
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methanol does fine,,as does most of the alcohols,,,and you dry it yourself
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Old 2003-10-02, 16:08
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Default Re: Turn Ice "Sand" into Rock

The red jugs of HEET are iso alcohol.
 
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