I have a question, as I read through different threads, I see alot of posts that albeit not worded in the nicest way, are informative if someone would look past the flame. Such as when someone says that you are wrong and goes on to say that if you would look here or there for the right answer, why do so many get upset at the "you are wrong part" and not look at the rest?

I am actually asking because, I have been lurking here and there long enough to see that alot of adults who visit these sights, are...shall we say "touchy" and I am kinda wondering why? I mean, you'll never actually meet the person face to face, if you read the post without getting upset, you may even be able to derive atleast part of the answer to your question even if it is just a nudge in the right direction.

I have also found that when you research something for yourself, that you will actually aquire far more knowledge than you would if say someone just handed it to you as then you would only read the "how to" and not the why, and end up hurting yourself or others while trying to figure out what you did wrong laying in your extra uncomfortable hospital bed.

Ok, I will shut up now, and I am really not trying to make anyone mad or to purposely crate a reason to flame me, I was just kinda curious, seeing how some of these threads are flooded with mud-slinging.

**dreamer**

quote:when you research something for yourself, that you will actually aquire far more knowledge than you would if say someone just handed it to you as then you would only read the "how to" and not the why, and end up hurting yourself

Good Point!

If only everybody thought as you did, the world would be a much better place.

^5's giz....

Ya know gizmo, that is the reason I "let you in" on a bunch of stuff that it took me a while to aquire....in your other thread. The way that you asked your questions and the way in which you spoke, told me that you've made an honest effort, and hey...you're just stuck. We all get stuck. The ones that come here and know absolutely nothing about anything, then ask for an easy way to make shit....THEY WILL FOREVER ENDURE THE WRATH AND THE FLAMES OF ALL!!!!! buuaahahahahahahhahahhhhaha

jk.

Thank you mnm and tired, I am still "making an honest effort" and probably will be till the end of time, however, one of the reasons I posted this was because, though I am new to the scene and learning as I go, I feel that the question..."Hey, how do ya make killer dope man" is really a lame question, and tells me that they have not tried to read anything, or tried to find out the answer through whatever means they have available.

I guess I am just rambling since I have spent a great deal of time learning and reading, and would feel a little sad if someone actually told them, ok this is it and didn't make them atleast read something. There would be far to many explosions and "goiter-joe's" in this world should someone get handed the answer in that way.

Anyway, thanks to all the posters, acid, tired, geez and the rest of you who are out there and helpful in attaining knowledge.

*dreaming*

Yes i think many people are under the illusion that organic synthesis, because you have a recipie you may have found somewhere, is easy..i must admit when i came across this place i was an offender in that sense, but not as bad as some !!..even though i know a bit about chem and had done a lot of reading..however most of the reading i was doing was looking at other peoples synths and msds's only having a vague idea behind some of the steps..and yes it came as a bummer when i finally realised .."it will be months before you can pull this off safely and with no fuck ups and end up with something other than crook guts at best .. Not in any ones defence ,,,but im guessing that this is a necessary process that i guess you regulars have to endure with noobs..the dumb ones get burnt ..the smarter hang around learn shitlooooads about synths and dream of dreaming on .. the outcome for me is now i know which areas i need to focus on ..and hopefully one day i can contribute to this forum as opposed to taking, in return for your patience and advice..

I would like to thank you all as well..

Maybe this new month coming up will have a bunch of noobs like yourselves...I mean that in the best possible way. I registered here a while back under a different name--> AlwaysTired. Due to some unfortunate circumstances, I had to re-register and start all over...well not all over. The stuff I had learned before I decided to register was excellent stuff. You guys are on the right track, and good things happen to the right people. Cause it's not all about making dope. I've never made it in my life. *smirks* There are so many other aspects to it. The research, discipline, and quest for nothing less than the best well, it stirs shit up inside ya that you had no clue was there. Anyhow....be careful, and just cause someone types it out, doesn't mean it's true. Double check for yourself.

theres nothing i disagree with previously written,,yet in a couple of areas i differ of opinion,,,its stated it takes months to learn the methods,,,of hard study over many long hours,,,,yeah if you do it on your own,,with no one to walk you through areas of difficulty,,its gotta be painfull-----but come humbly, with hat in hand ,,,youll usually find one of us will dedicate enough hours to damned near lead you by the hand through the whole process,,,and it aint got jack shit how much study your gonna do,,its how much grovelling your able to stomach to get one of us to do it

lol..yeah, heard and understood..

**groveling** lol

*dreamin on*

hey guys i know im probally responding this to late but i just wanted to add my 2 cents worth and give props to everyone out here

and as someone who has only been looking out here for 1 month (but enjoying the subject matter for years) i have yet to attempt my own journey but i am learning the ropes and the absolute agony of reading reading and reading.

all i do is sleep eat and work while thinking and trying to remeber each and every detail

so i dont have to post on every little question i have.

i to believe that you have to work for yourself and earn it the way the masters had to. swix is really close to the start and is just waiting on all the pieces to fall into place.

aaarrrrgggghhhhh im drunk and shouldnt be around a keyboard lol....

just wanted to thank wicked,kirb,acid, always'luckey and sutt and everyone who has answered one of my dumb questions and i hope one day ill be able to PAYPAL you all some brewskeys LOL