I understand some of this, and why some of the items are needed, but it doesnt seem that this is everything. this first method calls for several ingredients place/mixed together in a 10 gallon fish tank with a wooden top w/ nylon strings attatched. buried underground for 45 days, w/ air holes. the next is the same everything, devided by six, buried for seven days, no air. Then there is some of the ingredients in a mason jar, one string, buried for 30 days. The yield should be cry.m. I have not given all information because I feel weired doing so, but I will give more info if someone can help or is familier.

Just out of curiosity, 'cause I don't know anything about this sorta thing, what are you supposed to be able to get out of this?

M_M

You are supposed to get cryst. met h. I am not used to this method. I have seen good results from another. But its not easy. But what is?

Are you fucking serious???

I've seen a lot of bullshit methods in my time, but SHIT man!!!

What were the other ingredients?

Let me guess: Captain Morgan, Sheep Sperm, Pickled Pig's Feet, and Borax? It just might work<sarcastically>!

Lukky D

Wow, thanks for taking the time to type all of that. If you can understand preschool hydrogen bonding,then one can understand why two of the ingredients, 90% pure or better aluminum shavings and muratic are used. Anyone that is really interested in learning more or helping me, please respond.

wow dude, 90% pure or better aluminum shavings and muratic are used.

dont try it, sure as hell cant be no easyer than rp/io rxn. and aluminum shavings and muratic would if u add some salt, make hydrocloric gas id sappose, thats the only part that makes any damn sence.

lukky's right, throw in da socks and bury it. pray at grave side while u wait, rest of the world will enjoy some goodies while u wait.. its a bullshit recipe i wouldnt try.



rnx57

i was about to close this cause there is no way this could work, and if it did, it would probaly be about as safe as the 2 liter method. but just for my own amusement i am going to leave it open to see what this cat posts. please do humor us with the entire method.

Let me guess, this is the "method" with Gun Blueing?

Supposed crystals are to appear on the strings?



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Yep. Gun blue, charcoal, house hold ammonia, and if I want faster results add muratic and aluminum. Several stings are attached to the top and I guess they are saying that once the reaction turns to gas and rises to the top, it should collect on the strings and all over the glass. OK. Yes, there will be a reaction with the muratic and metal, and maybe some pretty colors with the rest, but I have never heard of such a thing and it doesnt make since, unless someone can tell me otherwise...

I don't think the nylon strings will last in the muriatic acid, or the hydroidic acid.

Okay Polecat, first you try and talk shit to me cause I told you that the method sounded like bullshit. You claimed that "preschool hydrogen bonding" blah, blah, was the reason why it probably worked because with the listed ingredients it made sense... and now you are even saying that you do NOT understand why it would work.

Yes, we have all heard of this method. It is a "Gun Blueing Myth". IT won't work, and there would be absolutely NO reason to try to collect the Meth on strings.

What? Does preschool hydrogen bonding somehow explain why the Methamphetamine molecule is attracted to "string"?

References please...

Lukky D

Thats the thing, the srings are suspended above the reaction, not in it. A very well respected person, who holds a doc. in chemistry, who also teaches at a well known college, gave the method to my friend/side kick in exchange for,.....well. never mind that, not that I had anything to do with it,..ofcource. My friend said that he observed the finished product himself on the glass and on the strings. We are only used to the annie method, which as you know works very well, or so I here cause I dont have anything to do,...oh what ever,.. If there is a safe way to get the exact method to anyone who thinks that this maybe something, let me know. Or can I just post it here?

Lukky,

thanks for your input, I didnt say that it will work cause of the hydrogen bonding, I just said that I understand the hydrogen bonding, I totally agree with you, I dont think that there would be an attraction to the string unless its because the strings are nylon 100%. This interested me so some testing was done on the responce to some gases and nylon strings. Some of the gases were attracted. The strings were also tested in some samples taken through out different points in another method. There was a collection of something on the strings. It sounds like bullshit. I came here and posted this to get input and help. Is there anything that is related to this, or is this just a bullshit method all together and if it is what I think, a way to push people in the wrong direction so that one doesnt have to worry about compitetion. Thanks for your posts and all the help. Sorry if I sound stupid.

SImply put, the "synth" is garbage, and is myth as previously stated.

The precursors you listed will react with each other indeed. But only to cancel each other out, yielding Ammonium Chloride, among some other things.

My point is this, dont bother wasting your money on this, it is bogus.

QUICK!!!! HIDE THIS FROM SUTT!!! *whispers* No telling what he'll conjour up.

Hmm, Well swim has never tried this method but shit he sure plans too. Swim however did prefect the 2liter method.If you attach a hose comming out of the bottle into dryice it produces anhydrous which does melt you're strips fully =...You have to keep opening the bottle to relived pressure or the 2liter will explode.The only problem with this reduction tech is that it takes longer for the rxn.It does however all create at the sametime producing meth and then you choose you're recrystalization method for perfect crystals.The reason swim posted this is because it is less dangerous than the previous 2liter and for people's safety on totse i will not disclose the entire method. I will however let everyone on totse know it produces 100% meth in a few hours thats the problem.hours!!!! Swim is working on the h2o2 cat method now but swim has a question about it.swim produced nice crystals that smoked well on foil then swim tried turning it into salt using hcl/foil.Swim dropped the crystals in ether and it did not dissolve then swim dissolved it with iso and then tried gassing it but nothing dropped.When swim drops his clean pseduo into h2o2 then leaves it for 45 mins then adds iso then boils down he gets fine powder then recrystalizes it.Now swim is assuming it is methcat freebase correct?...So how would swim turn it into methcat hcl?Now about this method here Swim will say from what he has seen he doubts no method untill trying it for himself and it not working but swim assumes that if a chemist told it to you and he works at a college he probably knows what he is talking about.Swim don't understand why you are getting on totse and asking questions about the method to people that have never done it why not just go ask the chemist for an exact description from what Swim knows all chemist love teaching and educating people.

TOO LATE!!

sutt don't even try and revive that shit about the 2 liter Napalm, it's been dealt with...and shot dead in it's tracks. (over and over)

"I will however let everyone on totse know it produces 100% meth in a few hours"

That's a load of shit if you've ever told one sutt...don't make me bring back some fond memories...

"Now about this method here Swim will say from what he has seen he doubts no method untill trying it for himself and it not working"

So you mean to tell everyone here, that you'd rather waste time, money, and risk physical injury, to prove a point that others that are obviously more informed than you....are telling you is bullshit??

AAHahahahahahahah Hey sutt, jump off a tall building, you won't really die when you hit the ground. Besides, a chemistry teacher said that if you imagine that you're not really falling.... your mind takes over, and then you're not.

"why not just go ask the chemist for an exact description "

Cause no chemist in their right mind would ever claim that it would actually work!!



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darryl has heard of a somewhat similiar "fishtank set-up that took about a month or so".....

honey HCL was not the product that was being made but methylaminorex (ice) was the finish line they were arriving at. Now the things that were put into this fishtank were definitely not charcoal and all that whoo haa. There were strings involved and darryl supposes that the chems inside the sealed tank mixed and formed a gaseous atmosphere that over quite some time precipitated out onto the strings.....

just suppositional stuff but there were in fact long strings with large chunky block-like crystalline structures on them. $55 a 1/4 gram and darryl was splacked to the ceiling for a solid week and it was intense the whole time (as in IF darryl lives through this he swears he will never do it again) ne way just blabbing in hopes darryl might could help someone make some hedz er tells out of this shablooey

Melt. Please close. For if this moron gets a CLUE on how to REALLY make meth, hes going to blow his ass up.

i hear that. consider it done