i had a dream where i heard voices saying something about ether, gasscans, pills, batteries, and i believe something else.. anyone else hear any voices mention anything about this and if so care to share.. hard waking up with only half a dream u know? thanx

You're all over the map. Pick a synth and stick with it. Birching might be "easier" to some people, in a way, but not really, all things considered.

I am curious, though. Did you peruse all the threads in this forum? Skimming the first few topics is inadequate. Take the time to go through the forum, page by page, and read every thread. You'll find links to informative websites. Please don't claim that you did when you really didn't, because then my next question would be "Why are you asking such retarded, redundant questions?"

You'll be glad you took the time. There simply isn't a quick, easy way to learn unless you're a card-carrying chemist. I hope this wasn't mean, but it had to be said.

another question if anyone has an answer... i read something one time about anhydrous ammonia, lithium, camp fuel and was wondering if anyone knew of something other than anhydrous or r12 that would work as a substitute... i am going dreemless anyone with any info thank you

stick with rp/io rxn, as lithum is hard to play with without knowledge ( sparks, o2 and such), also annie is a dangerous thing to the unknowing, breath some and u wont need to learn rxn where you'll be going......

read, read on rp/io , 3 steps tp cleaning, ect lots of great pages of info right under dat big nose there,,,,,, PEACE

rnx57

for a start,,,freonR12 doesnt work,,,,theres a few things that will do the job of anhydrous ammonia but most of them are harder to acquire ,,,,,and please be specific in your questions

PS- must we be harsh, is it wrong to ask on what to read about.a dumb question is one not asked. dont go in blind, read or ask what to read, some can read well (like swim) but some dont catch to well, u ask swim will step on da proper paper in da collage grounds. PEACE pll,,,,, PEACE.

rnx57

i am not trying to be stupid, nor am i trying to waste anyone's time, if i am i truly apologize. It's not that i am not reading, i am. the problem is that i cannot grasp words that i cannot pronounce. that makes me sound like a crack head or someone who is illiterate, and i am neither of those. my point is this. I have dreamed dreams of rp-i-e and failed time and time again, waking up with nightmares of things that literally eat aluminum foil and any paper or plastic that it comes in contact with. i have dreamed of several different synth that only vary slightly depending on the poster and come to the same conclusion over and over. I am wanting a dream that is not necessarily easier, rather something more suitable to me. if i can pronounce the words that are in what i am reading, it much easier to accuratly know exactly what i am doing without worrying quite so much about blowing up the neighbor hood, me, or someone else in my dream. thank you for your time in atleast reading this, and if anyone has any suggestions that might b helpful in my quest for more knowledge i thank you dearly

this is the post i was referring to...



misdkfits Its an opinion man but swim started out with anhydrous/lithuim then gassed using sulfuric/salt =) Swim personally thinks that is the easiest method rp/i is easy aswell except you have to go buy a whole lot of shit like boxes and i mean boxes of matches like 20 boxes just to make 3 or 4 grams =)....750 Pills,gascan,bottle of lye,8 batts and then a few cans of ether and thats all you need for the anhydrous method =) Then choose you're method for gasssing. Its all up to you meth isn't hard to make with any method except for using lab equipment

does this have any substance to it and if so, would anyone care to elaborate on ratios and such please ------needing HELP here thank you

for real man, chose what u can obtain in ur area the easyest. as in swim area rp/io is only way as swim dont even know what a annie tank looks like. swim does shitty work compared to most cleaning in reading, and still gets a recreational product in swims dreams, read swims post on how to according to collage paper.. its very close, a bit crude as far as cleaning but it does work hella good. try it again in ur dream, be natural n calm. work slow. rp/io does not blow up less u try a cook @ 350 degrees or more. swim dont go over 280 @ most, cook as long as u like just dont run it out of dh20. add some warm dh2o when done rxn'in, lye it to raise ph, gas it, if it dont work, boil np with base in it till dry ( dont burn it). scrape up whats in there n wash with tone. dry, do a bump and wait 20 min. swims had killer shit out scrap in dreams such as these. dont fear, do it. watch, see, learn ,it is really to easy ,even for a fuck up like swim ( although swim aint dumb by far), he is no chemist, just smart enough to take defeat, and rise again........

may da force be with u. rnx57

hey gizmo im going to put this up "i"did not post this up it was posted up a few weeks ago or months or years somethang like that cant quite remember dont really know who the credits are due to but here it is..............................................

this was wrote awhile back but it still works everytime it just covers the rxn you can do what you want about cleaning pilll and peeling battries..i hope this helps you guys and gals with your birch...

pikk

Edited copy:by deadlycynth

This has been working for Swim Shady and his partner

for quite some time now and works the same every time.

Swim & Swim Shady are not chemists by any means. They

started with a really hokey, Okie recipe and learned

"hands-on."

Start with a 2 gallon container to hold the anhydrous

(the ammonia used here is obtained from a friendly and

sympathetic farmer.) Use only enough anhydrous to

dissolve the lithium from the batteries.

Then, using the "net salt" form of the pseudo

freebase, add to the mix until the mix wont hold any

more . You can tell when the dissolved lithium will

not reduce any more pseudo when it starts to thicken

and turn the same color as if you had quenched the

reaction with dh2o. This texture and color will remain

even when stirred vigorously .

If when stirring the mixture it does return to that

deep blue color then it will still reduce some pseudo.



This way you are sure you are neither over- or

under-reducing your base and keeps the amount of trash

you get to a minimum.

Next, set this aside for 1-2 hours and let the ammonia

evaporate since you used a small amount of ammonia and

did not dilute it with H2O or solvents. It takes very

little time to evaporate. When it does evaporate add

500ml toluene (or NP of your choice) to the mix and

stir. Add about 100ml dH20 to settle the salts of

lithium and other undesireables to the bottom. Allow

to separate.

Then decant and bubble with hcl gas to make the hcl

salt of meth. Filter off the NP and place the salt

from each pull into a beaker containing acetone. You

may get 4-5 pulls from this reaction depending on

size. From each pull you might get some product when

rebubbling each pull a 2nd time. If upon bubbling it

produces a gummy, yellowish substance then you can

rest assured that you have gotten everything possible

from that particular bit of NP.

Take the container holding the salt in acetone and

pour it into a filter. A vaccum filter is the only way

to fly and you can make one yourself with a shop vac.

Anything is better than nothing.

Take the filtercake (or cakes, depending on the size

of your reaction) and spread them out to dry. When

they are dry you are just fucking the dog if you don't

recrystalize it. It's easy to follow Worlock's dual

solvent method. Swim Shady uses everclear and acetone

. Swim Shady has not yet read Placebo's H2O method

recrystalization, but if it works like his lesser cure

then I can assure you it is the bomb.

The resulting yield is from 75% to 85% after

recrystalization. The pills used were from the stick

in the mud folks at wally world (3 box limit) and

wallygreens world (no limit ,no questions asked!)

I realize I may have left out something and you may

feel free to e-mail me or post a reply and I'll fill

in any missing parts or answer any questions.