what, if anything, would result from taking iod crystals, rp, psuedo e,dh2o, and just put it all in jar? How long for any would be results?

Try it and see, genius. Heat usually helps.

HMMMMMM.......maybe.......meth!!!!!!!!! Clean your precursors........and try to grab (by reading) some concepts of how/why your reaction will work....then you'll probably understand ratios for different reaction methods. dedicate your time and patience and we'll notice if you really are trying....and we'll help ya.

DD

Seriously dude, there's a viable push-pull method out there, and the nano synth works, too! Fuck! I can hardly type!

Actually, as long as the ratios of reactants were precise in relation to environmental conditions, a room temperature reduction is quite possible and has been successfully done.

It is not recommended though. The whole precise ratios and environmental conditions probably doesn't sound like much, but the guy who says he has done this (and his reputation is such that he has great credibility with me) also has vast experience conducting the rp/i, both short and long. Mostly short. A legend actually.

It takes a good deal of experience not only in the reaction, but the full gamut of reaction conditions that are unique to each individuals habitat.

Search around for room temp rxn.

I have been reading all of your guys post's, for a while now and told my friend Rummy. Rummy said he cleaned everything as instructed. RP from cut out striking pads-in atone-siphon-dry, pseudo by denatured Alc.(although it took a few times to figure out that the gatorade bottle he used as a container wasn't thoroughly cleaned out good enough-therefore his psuedo was an orange syrup even though there was no coating on the pill), Iodine, perfect instructions produced perfect results. Distilled water, I loaned him $1.39.

So Rummy throws it all in jar, with ratios in the same proximity as the various instructions seen here. Now he waits, but wonders. Mostly about if and when that violent reaction may occur. Once again, there is no heat. But still he wonders. If nothing by tomorrow, he says he's going to set jar in a water-filled crock pot and set it on low. Would this be wise of him?

No, the crockpot with water is not a good idea. You're boil the water and it'll all just end up evaporating. Plus I think that if you use peanut oil (cause it smokes less than regular) you'd be better off. The act of water boiling might tip your flask or steam would burn your hands. I don't really know....but Switrd would not use water.

I will pass it on to Rummy,"no water". Any other suggestion's besides peanut oil? He of course is full aware of the danger's and therefore is looking for the safest ways possible. Time is "not" of the essence in this matter.

He'd also like to know more about the violent reaction/"big dance", like how long this reaction will last, and what should he expect?

I cannot, for the life of me, figure out what compels a person to read for 10 minutes (at best) and then rush out, spend money, go home and procede to "attempt" to perform tasks that involve potentially dangerous chemicals and dangerous legal situations as if they had a full and complete grasp on the entire concept.

I don't mean to slap you around too much, but lets take a look at what you have done:

"Rummy said he cleaned everything as instructed. RP from cut out striking pads-in atone-siphon-dry"

No, must have been the wrong instructions. It would be a not so small miracle if one or two acetone rinses could clean up rp from matchbook strikers. I hate those damn things. Swigotta has reached a point where I write in using gallon sized jugs for the water washes. The method has become quite involved, but its clean in the end. He never knew it was so dark.

" pseudo by denatured Alc.(although it took a few times to figure out that the gatorade bottle he used as a container wasn't thoroughly cleaned out good enough-therefore his psuedo was an orange syrup even though there was no coating on the pill)"

I think that was a bottle of fruit punch gatorade. Chances are the orange color in the gatorade bottle came from those nice pretty white 60's your friend probably used. The kiss of death is using denat alcohol in a straight extraction. I can't think of anything less than 12 years old that water or alcohol can successfully pull with todays pill formulations. It's orange gaak. You pulled pseudo alright. The only problem is you pulled all sorts of shit with it.

"Iodine, perfect instructions produced perfect results."

Lets assume that this is true. The loss will be the greatest tragedy of the story.

It appears that MAYBE there is a bunch of glue and dye from the matchbooks as well as 50-70% of the pseudo weight as gaak. So, he chunked it all in a jar and assumed that's what you do? I guess he didn't get around to reading the reaction part of the process. Not to worry, it is grossly overrated. I am very curious as to how much water he chunked in that jar.

At this point, the best recommendation I could possibly come up with is to first, filter out the red p. I guess the best way to get the pseudo back out would be to A/B it. I sure wouldn't attempt to do that anytime soon. Read it, learn it, then try it. If you completely fuck it up. Do it again on the same stuff. You can't hurt it, right? Who knows, several things could happen. You could accidentally do something right and have a nice thick layer of freebase pseudo come out, the result being you are still clueless as to how it happened, but you still have the pseudo back, and cleaner now too. You may also stumble onto something that pulls the ole lightbulb chain in your brain and you are able to add something you KNOW to your plan.

OK, OK, anyway, the iodine can be recovered last and there is something about that under post reaction iodine recovery somewhere.

If someone knows a better (easier) way to get the pseudo back out, maybe they can share it with you. Other than that, start studying.

The RP, Rummy got it off the strike pads completely in one wash. No joke. I think I might know why too. He bought the "Ralphs" brand, and for some reason or another, after he cut the strike pads off he was easily able to get his fingernail under the strikepad and peel it off the paper/matchbook or at least split the paper/matchbook it was glued to. So when he put all the rp strips in the atone, he only had strip the rp from at the worst a paper/matchbook with only half the thickness.

In fact he told me that he put one strike pad in the atone that he didn't split, and that one wasn't even close to come off when all the other one's had been seperated-rp at the bottom and paper/matchbooks floatin' on the top.