using redhots(equate)1 h20 rinse,2 cold acet. rinses & den.a soak 4 30 min.& qwik evap.swim gets about 2 gm.psdo frm each box of 96 ct. 30's.e/i2/rp& dh20- 1:1:1/3-2ml.p/p setup in erlemeyer flask ,cook hot till signs of success(usually 1hr 30 mn.)add dh20 then n/p raise ph W/naoh ,siphon off n/p add equal amt.dh2o then lower ph with m.a. filtering every time liquid is moved from one place 2 another .evap. and njoy

you are sure that your pills are clean after

2 acetone soaks?

swicr is very much a noo-b,and by no means wants to come off sounding like an expert chemist,but its the way swicr was skooled ,by a sho nuff "speed scientist".the "cold" acet. is used after 1 fast h2o rinse,acet. is only used to do 2 qwik rinses,to remove as much as the red coating as poss. then drained off.then denat.al. is used to do the actual extraction of psdo.usually letting it sit 4 30 min.filtered 2 or 3 times using a cotton ball in a funnel & a coffee filter.swicr then evaps on med heat using a blow dryer to keep pyrex from getting too hot.when it skins over almost to point of completion,adds toluene to just cover product.bring to a boil then dump off remaining tol.& dry completely.it comes out sparkly with descent yields.swicr is under the impression that its good clean psdo.& it makes some of the best "working medicine" round here.if there is any advice u could give on the process swicr is open for suggestions or any input that would make this dream have a happier ending .

this subject has been debated to death. do a search or just start going back thru all the posts. i can tell you this, 1.5 hour dope dont compare to 36 hour dope. i speak from 20 years personal experience. the high is different. the quality is different. the comedown is definatly different. most people dont know what a quality meth high is supposed to be like cuz most cooks like you do the short hot cook. patience and meth rarley are found in the same place. dopeheads want the shit NOW. connisuers want quality.

damn Dopeheads!

well,swicr is not the spokesperson for the short hot cook,just was skoold in that manner. certainly interested in quality results,and getting the cleanest product as possible.thats why there was a? there!swicr has no problem with constructive criticism,and swim likes the cleaner less "wacky" dope!swim is real new to swirling (4 months )and is learning more everyday thanx to this place.already have the basics down ,just working on the quality and safety aspects of the rxn's.so far no accidents and minimal losses . swim has nothing against cooking longer ,and actually interested in doing one soon.(does it have to be babysat for the whole Duration or is it safe to walk away periodically?swim is a connesuir also ,but fact is ,u do dope , u a dopehead,just some have better taste!thanx again for the comments.

quote:Originally posted by CAPTNRXN:

well,swicr is not the spokesperson for the short hot cook,just was skoold in that manner. certainly interested in quality results,and getting the cleanest product as possible.thats why there was a? there!swicr has no problem with constructive criticism,and swim likes the cleaner less "wacky" dope!swim is real new to swirling (4 months )and is learning more everyday thanx to this place.already have the basics down ,just working on the quality and safety aspects of the rxn's.so far no accidents and minimal losses . swim has nothing against cooking longer ,and actually interested in doing one soon.(does it have to be babysat for the whole Duration or is it safe to walk away periodically?swim is a connesuir also ,but fact is ,u do dope , u a dopehead,just some have better taste!thanx again for the comments.

SWIM didnt mean to come off sounding harsh CAPTN. believe SWIM if it was a commercial adventure he would run it thru get it done , gone and cash in hand. SWIM just likes it for recreation purposes for him and his few roaddogs. the long cook doesnt have to be monitored the whole time but should check on it regularly. you can bet tho that if anything is gonna happen it will happen when you have stepped out for a min lol. since you are already getting good yields just put together your recipie as normal and turn the heat down to 180 F. and up the DH2O to 0.8 to 1.0 ml. SWIM dont know if the push/pull is wanted or desired on the long/cool cook. its been SWIM`s experience that the P/P setup just has more connections and fittings where there can be a failure. SWIM likes the flask/tubing/balloon method better as you eliminate 5 connections and two lids/stoppers where failure can happen.

qwik cook & high yields,y go longer?

One good reason would be to turn all of that iodometh and iodoephedrine you just made into methamphetamine.

it comes out sparkly with descent yields.swicr is under the impression that its good clean psdo.& it makes some of the best "working medicine" round here

There are many things in pills that come out sparkly but are not pseudo. Your impression is wrong. Put forth a little effort and you will be able to knock their dicks in the dirt "round there".

SWIM likes the flask/tubing/balloon method better as you eliminate 5 connections and two lids/stoppers where failure can happen.

*above text was written by Wicked_rain*

yes, but you also create a pressurized chamber of HI acid that is trying to reduce

something, and the HI acid is a better reducer when not under pressure, perhaps this

is what is causing long cook times, with a push/pull setup the acid isnt under pressure

therefore reducing cook times, a balloon setup forces the pressure of the reduction solution to go against itself. Wicked_rain,

stfu sometime and actually think about what I'm saying fool. No offense but I know tweekers like you that discover lollipops and swear on their life that thier dope is the best, Dude speciffically said he was using a push pull setup and an hour it all reduced. thats because a push pull doesnt have backpressure to stall it. I know what the fuck Im saying you fogey.

Wicked_rain, I know you are older, but Sometime in life you will have to accept the fact that a younger generation exists and they may know what the hell they are talking about. Like I said ,I know some fuckheaded tweekers like you that stumble on a lollipop

and never go back to grain Sugar. look dude I;m just saying regardless of the retardedness of your mind doesn't make you anybetter than me. ok- recapp-

(P/P setup-1 atm-less cooking time)

(flask/balloon setup-over 1atm-more cooking)

get it yet,If you don't feel free to ask questions and/or come to the realization that

you cannot throw your dope against a car hood

and have it not crumble. Therefore leaving precious space between what you consider good meth and what I consider good meth.

By the way the oxygen that is being stripped

in the reduction of ephedrine in a balloon setup is becoming O2 and reacting with your HI acid to create h20 and hydrogen and also further reacting with HI to turn the iodide

into iodine, so you are in a way stalling the reaction. but hey 36 hours for a gram ok wif you then fine.

go fuck your self treefag lol you do make me laugh tho.

nah dude, really for nano's under 10 grams

I really do think its the pressure aspect

causing (of course you like long rxn times regardless but thats besides my point)

causing slow rxns especially when you sayin you have really clean rP. Hypo- times are

complete (7 grams/6 hours) in under ten hours

using a non-backpressurish condenser,

if your damn rxn materials are starting to react with each other once water is added to them, this is (30 minutes or so) when your materials are combiniing to create hi THEN

reduce. Hydriodic acid(57%) from the jug

will reduce 10 grams in less than 24 hours

HI IS A STRONG REDUCER ---HELLO!!!!!!!!!

This 36 hours of rxn time is seemingly outrages for nano-cooks, man 16 hours of this 36 hours is your damn rP/water/I2

creating PI3-h2po3-and h3po4 for criist sakes,(phosgene also), but shit dude

HI(aq) 57% is some strong shit, I can almost bet that using the rP from matchbooks

its taking up to 20 hours even at 100C

to finnally reach 54 to 57% strenghth.-----

ok finnally that I got yer atenCHun, the balloon now, this is definitely putting

pressure(small but there)on the surface of rxn fluid, if you think about it for a second, the fluid/gases are at a sort of equilibrium of pressure, not LETTING HI rise out of rP/hydrogen-iodide/iodine/water, but also with the expansion of the ballon since it is constantly wanting to reatract when swollen, ALSO your 1 atm on the outside of balloon. your rxn fluid can't decide whether to create HI to be absorbed or not, and furthermore EVEN BEGIN TO CONCENTRATE.

All in all Im saying that, your 36 hours for nano's is seemingly WAY out of proportion in time. and thats why. any thought to spit at me? man 10 grams can be reduced at 180F in under 10 hours considering your HI acid is already made.

where did you get the impression that SWIM cooks nanos?

what is a nanos?

quote:Originally posted by Wicked_Rain:

SWIM didnt mean to come off sounding harsh CAPTN. believe SWIM if it was a commercial adventure he would run it thru get it done , gone and cash in hand. SWIM just likes it for recreation purposes for him and his few roaddogs. the long cook doesnt have to be monitored the whole time but should check on it regularly. you can bet tho that if anything is gonna happen it will happen when you have stepped out for a min lol. since you are already getting good yields just put together your recipie as normal and turn the heat down to 180 F. and up the DH2O to 0.8 to 1.0 ml. SWIM dont know if the push/pull is wanted or desired on the long/cool cook. its been SWIM`s experience that the P/P setup just has more connections and fittings where there can be a failure. SWIM likes the flask/tubing/balloon method better as you eliminate 5 connections and two lids/stoppers where failure can happen.

nevermind I forgot SWIUs rigs hose is connected to the Hindenburg.

And I musta missed your tutorial about how many ounces is in a nanopound.

quote:Originally posted by Wicked_Rain:

this subject has been debated to death. do a search or just start going back thru all the posts. i can tell you this, 1.5 hour dope dont compare to 36 hour dope. i speak from 20 years personal experience. the high is different. the quality is different. the comedown is definatly different. most people dont know what a quality meth high is supposed to be like cuz most cooks like you do the short hot cook. patience and meth rarley are found in the same place. dopeheads want the shit NOW. connisuers want quality.

Whats your point are you trying to lengthen cooking times on an already done rxn?

intense reasoning to persuede lenghthening cooking times to a "dopehead" is nearly impossible I thought you knew that after twenty years personal experience.



Why the fuck he need to use the search engine

when hes sattisfied with what he has done already or is therizing?>

Yeah some people obviously don't know what good meth is compared to lame quality(hot cooked) dope.

I forgot what subject had been debated to death about therefore using the search engine would do me no good especially if it were broken.

'sup fella's?thanx all the input on this subject.this site is a gold mine . a meth knowledge bank of swinebodies dreams!the amount of information, from different experiences, from different walks of life is the best thing to happen to the scene ever!it should ultimately improve the quality on a widespread scale.(or the profit margin for the "cutpirates",who would be better off to just short someone) swicr did a little experiment out of curiosity and was very surprised with results: he is using lab grade R/P , lab grade I2 , & equate redhots cleaned the very easy & qwik way he described in original post.( 4 boxes 96 ct.30's: yeilded 10 1/2 grms.)he added 8 1/2grms.r/p ,& 12 grms. i2 ,& 5 mls. dh20. added i2 ,e , r/p & dh20 in that order in 500 ml. erlenmeyer flask using the ziploc bag ,instead of balloon placed it directly on burner of elect. stovetop on 3 or 4 and cooked the shit out of it .it started reducing after 20 min. and just about stopped at 1 hr mark. swicr took off anyway cause it just looked so ready.he then added hot dh2o to vessel (also rinsing bag and adding back to flask) swirled it for a few min. leaving on heat to breath for a few then added camp fuel ,naoh,did the whole ph thing,then brought it back down to about 6.8. evaped. pretty qwik with hotplate & blow dryer('bout 30 - 40 min.) and came back with 8 grms.of pinkish crystalized meth that is super clean & has a set of legs on it !as far as the comedown ,dont quite know yet, it may be a couple of days!but was very pleased with results .80 % yeild !!! well swim is now in the mood to move around more than this keyboard will let,so its off to the races ! thanx again for all the responses ,it was just my 1st post.

Hot and fast cooks ever leave any foul

solid like impurities in the rxn fluid itself taht you know of?

I am just curious as to what fried gakk looks like (if any) in this type of enviornment.

Solid-like or still a liquid, and if or not it will seep through several filters,

clog the filters,or become visible in the filter upon cooling of rxn and filtering.

quote:Originally posted by tReePHrOg:

Hot and fast cooks ever leave any foul

solid like impurities in the rxn fluid itself taht you know of?

argue your point with someone else rookie.

What and which point, obviously you cannot fuckin read either. If you'll notice,

I am not arguing about or to a point yet.

quote:Originally posted by CAPTNRXN:

using redhots(equate)1 h20 rinse,2 cold acet. rinses & den.a soak 4 30 min.& qwik evap.swim gets about 2 gm.psdo frm each box of 96 ct. 30's.e/i2/rp& dh20- 1:1:1/3-2ml.p/p setup in erlemeyer flask ,cook hot till signs of success(usually 1hr 30 mn.)add dh20 then n/p raise ph W/naoh ,siphon off n/p add equal amt.dh2o then lower ph with m.a. filtering every time liquid is moved from one place 2 another .evap. and njoy

BROTHER TRANSLATE ALL THAT SO I CAN DO IT