Hey people, I need to find a good power source that I could get access to so I decided to ask here. What kind of power source could I get that would put out a hell of alot of kilowatts/megawatts? (Wishful thinking...) Please include details and stuff. Thank you for your help.

Your local electrical company could point you

in the right direction, or look into microwaves, there is someway you can wire

four or five transformers in a microwave to

finnally put out some 10,ooo watts.

a microwave

well the microwave emitter from inside, quite dangerous, but it has that kinda power....

Anything portable? The reason im asking is because I was thinking of trying to build an ion engine... I heard that 100 watts would do a pound of thrust...

umm a pound of thrust, you arent going to move much with that, do the math, 10X that is 1000 watts, which is only 10 pounds.

you couldnt find a portable enough source, to produce enough power, and 100 watts, is roughly 10 horse power to put it in perspective.

car battery.

a car battery is 12volts, and a few hundred amps, not enough.

You can rent portable 3 phase alternators or

a small portable home generator( actually an alternator) that can provide single phase

alternating power that can provide 230 volts

A/C x 20 amps.= 4600 watts. Newer models have more wattage. If your looking for high amps, lower volts, try a Lincoln gas engine arc-welder....Be careful!!Melts 1/4" steel

like molten lava. Forgot, if u need megawatts

a steam driven 3 phase turbine generator

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quote:Originally posted by Burner_303:

umm a pound of thrust, you arent going to move much with that, do the math, 10X that is 1000 watts, which is only 10 pounds.

you couldnt find a portable enough source, to produce enough power, and 100 watts, is roughly 10 horse power to put it in perspective.

I'm not saying I want 1 lb of thrust, I was simple saying that 100 watts is a pound of thrust. And 100 watts = 10 horse power? What the fuck? Do you mean that it takes 10 horsepower to power a lightbulb? It's something like 750 watts = 1 hp...

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just out of curiosity,,,why do you wish to build an ion engine??????what do you wish to do with said ion engine??????and lastly what is an ion engine??????and dont tell me an engine for making ions either

look man 1 hp, is not 750 watts

are u nuts, a car is a good example of this, say you have a 350hp motor, but the car only has 340 at the wheels, thats a 10 hp loss, where do u think that energy goes?

its turned into heat, which is dispersed through the drive line, now if every one of those horsepower was 750watts the tranny driveshaft and differential would liquify , cause thats a lot of juice..

How about a windmill?

remember the professor made gilligan ride that bamboo bike to create power

quote:Originally posted by D34TH:

Hey people, I need to find a good power source that I could get access to

I dont know too much about power but I do know someone who does. Maybe tReePHrOg could turn you on to some of his Aryan Brotherhood brothers that support the White Power Movement for Racial Supremacy! Dont let all his "Nigger" talk spook ya. Underneath (his White Robe) he's really a nice guy

Hey 303, 1 hp = 746 watts

Watts to horsepower is an equation to figgure out watts to horsepower,

horsepower from an engine and loss of 10 hp at the wheels has nothing to do with the driveline liquifying, its a simple equation not physics that your driveline will melt.

well if u lose 10 hp from the engine to wheels, where do u think it goes?

it doesnt just vanish, its lost because of friction. and what is friction, friction is energy, in the form of heat, take for example your stove, oven to be more specific, how many watts do u think that is?

its quite a bit, but im sure its less than 750, now what is the melting point of steel?

now if 1 hp is = to 750watts, and the total loss is 10X that, dont u think that would be enough to melt the drive line?

think about it for a min...

Watt measures power, which is a rate! When saying 746 watts is equal to 1 hp, this is a measure of power, not heat dissipation in energy. One watt is a rate of one joule per second, one hp is = 550ft.-lb./sec.

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exactly.

you cant relate the 2 forms?

the hp is turned into energy through friction, u comprehend this? im not talking the mechanicals, im talking about the conversion, like i said, your 500 watt stove, the element turns cherry red, thats 500watts at work, generating heat, enough so to turn that piece of iron red hot, now if 1hp is = 750watts like u say it is, the heat generated from the friction loss in the mechanical part would be enough to turn the steel white hot, u understand????

i jsut had an epiphony, my apologies gentlemen, i made a mistake, you are right about the 1hp=exactly 746watts.

i let my brain get carried away..

sorry...

but still, to generate 1 pound of thrust, its gonna take alot of power.

Everything's cool man, no apology needed! Just a discussion of sorts.

It is current, not wattage, that determines how hot the metal being electrified will get. Watts are merely a product of volts and amps. The typical electric stove in the US has a 120V source. 500/120 = 4.17 amps, which is a fair amount, but not unreasonable by any means.

As for a good source of power for your ion engine, your best bet may be to use your home line. Hope you have a big back yard!

oh but that thing about a driveline melting, i had it fuckin backwards, if there were to be a hp loss of 1hp it would destroy the driveline, my reverse point would be that there are little frictional losses in ballbearing components...

quote:Originally posted by kirby:

just out of curiosity,,,why do you wish to build an ion engine??????what do you wish to do with said ion engine??????and lastly what is an ion engine??????and dont tell me an engine for making ions either

An Ion engine uses power to charge a heavy particle (usually xenon) to propel them at about 110 000 km/h to propel something.

^^^So what in Sam Hell does that got to do with Meth?