hello everyone!

after a year of messing around with crystal my dealer has moved and i am looking to attempt to make my own. does anyone have a relativily easy way to cook it without all the crazy scientific language?

I just need to know what to do after i break the pills down in denatured alcohol.

and what glasses and stuff i need.

i just want to make it on a small scale like 2 grams and all i can find is for big amounts. even a trusted website would be nice because i know im being a pain in the ass. and its not that easy to just tell me how to do it.

you can e-mail or post here i appreciate it greatly

http://www.rhodium.ws/chemistry/index.html

I don't know how easy it's going to be, but good luck.

[This message has been edited by arecpadgett (edited 08-27-2003).]

Its harder than you think.

breaking the pills down in denatured alcohol wont even work with 2days pills. most people say that trying a nano reduction (2 grams of finished product is considered a nano)is even harder and shouldnt be attempted by new bees. product is always lost in the synth steps. the newer you are the more that is lost. so if you are expecting 2 grams back and make 3 grams worth of mistakes you get back nothing. SWIM`s friends say that your 1st attempts should be in the 20 gram range. that way if you make all the fuckups you still might get something back for your troubles. if it were relativley easy everyone would be doing it and the shit would be everywhere. make sense? look at this link: http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum26/HTML/002238.html

this will help you get started on the I2/RP reduction of ephedrine to methamphetamine. if this seems beyond your grasp then forget the actual synth. if you think you can pull off these steps then theres further reading to actually do the reduction. the actual cook is simple and easy anyone can do that believe me but theres a long road between getting your shit ready for a cook and then after the shit is cooked to make it into usable product. yessir a longgggg road.

fixed fuk fag boy shit talkin wicked he has never made annie dope in his whole life nor knows anyone that will show him how..dude ill help u and its a waste to flake that means droppin pills in denat..jus buy the kind with no coating soak in a lil ether till powder is formed drop powder staight in mix..mix being annie/ether/lithuim...need help email me suttleila@netzero.com ill help ya im not like these punk ass losers that jus downgrade everyone on here i try to help people =)

yea he trys to help people kill themselves at worst and help them make halfassed unreduced eph. dope at best hes a real winner. do a search of his posts then do a search of mine in this forum and decide from there.

wicked u live in alaska how much do u think you fukin know bout annie u stupid fuk u don't even have annie there haha =)...who gives a fuk what anyone on here says why do you always try to prove me as a bad person i try to actually help people...no one gets hurt by this method and everyone is happy soo fuk what you say and think =)

quote:Originally posted by suttleila:

wicked u live in alaska how much do u think you fukin know bout annie u stupid fuk u don't even have annie there haha =)...who gives a fuk what anyone on here says why do you always try to prove me as a bad person i try to actually help people...no one gets hurt by this method and everyone is happy soo fuk what you say and think =)

well sutt it has been brought to my attention that one of the largest anhydrous plants in north america is here in alaska. just cuz i dont use it means nothing dumbass. damn you are funny.

alaska grows cotton? hmm newayz my point was speak about what you know if you have never done it then you wouldn't know...im sure you right on everything about rp/i because you have done it...see i know bout annie samething...im originally from mississippi we got farms in every city that grows cotton and one of my friends dad owned 1..paid pennys for 100 galssssss tanks hmm =)

hey sorry to burst anyones bubble, I'm a newb to this game, and its been brought to my immidiate attention that this isnt the easiest of ways to get your hands on shit, you have to read, pay attention, and try damn hard to not blow your ass up,

find as many recipes as u can, go through, and if you have a grasp of chemistry, use which ever ones seem to make sense to you..

ive heard and been shown alot of stuff tha just doesnt make sense, nor does it seem to adhear to the properties of chemical reactions, but hey, go for it, i am.....

yea, and one more thing, there is way toooo much bitching going on in these forums,,

fuck guys,. say your piece and leave it at that,.,,,

hey wicked---dont lower yourself to his level mate--your to smart for that---he gets off when you answer

I get off everytime Suttleila opens his DS lips!

The easiest way to cook meth is take a few

large shards of methamphetamine, put them into a glass pipe(garcia y vegas cause they don't pit easy) blaze up your torch and

boil that crystal till it smokes and finnally vaporizes. If your dealer has moved you will probably need to learn how to cook ephedrine before you can further cook any methamphetamine. You must cook ephedrine

to produce methamphetamine,then cook methamphetamine to produce MDMA, I don't know exactly what your plans are but hopefully you are not surprising people by spiking party drinks with it, I guess.

mAYBE THIS WILL help, if you have questions about anything regarding the Hypophoz/redPhoZ

methods just ask, but in specifics, nobody here is going to tell you exactly what size glassware you need, also don't listen to wicker_rain when he says do not to try attemting anything under 20 grams, a 5 gram cook is plenty big enough to learn on and small enough not to remove your face from your skull if you get to high one day, and decide to blaze your rxn at 100c or more,

Hop I can help, there are plenty of people here with personal preferences and small tips that they aregue about on contact but don't believe one over the other just regard what they say.

1st things 1st treefag, you said this in your post:

"You must cook ephedrine

to produce methamphetamine,then cook methamphetamine to produce MDMA,"

you CANNOT cook methamphetamine to produce MDMA.

2nd, 20 grams was a ballpark figure which is why my EXACT words were "in the 20 gram range". any cook will tell you that a 2 grammer shouldnt be tried until you are experienced since the chance of failure is high. i was simply suggesting a larger rxn than 2 grams so he would end up with something even if he made all the mistakes that effect yield. and what does 20 grams have to do with ripping your skull from your face if you get to high? that makes no sense since 2 grams of real shit will make you "to high" as you put it. you are regarded in this forum in the same light as sutt whereas i am not. go figure that one out. do you also think like sutt and believe that NH3 is only used to make meth and grow cotton? or do you think that maybe there are more applications for it? i am thru arguing with you two retards over this subject.

[This message has been edited by Wicked_Rain (edited 08-28-2003).]

thanks for all the help you guys are great and quite entetaining.so what is the general concensus?

denatured alcohol or not????

ok im going to be serious for a minute..meth is hard to produce not knowing anything about chemicals and their properties. You have been warned soo do it at your own risk.Anhydrous ammonia is harmful to your skin and your lungs and when reacted with the wrong ingriedent you could blow up. Lithuim is a toxic metal and should be catious when handleing it not only that but if you drip one drop of sweat from your face into your batch then you blow up..One lil wind could end it all...not enuff diethyl ether and you could burn up and get caught =) worst case scenerio..I caution you before trying anything the best advice anyone could give you on this forum would be to read,read when you get bored and tired of reading then read more get it???? without reading you will never understand..Don't do like swim and start making stuff not knowning what the chemicals are and what gas you just produced to make that reaction..We at this forum will help you the best we can but you have to help yourself 1st...I recommend you start out dreaming about rp/i method i wished i would have....wicked seems to know alot bout that subject soo ask him or kirby good luck and becareful =)

Dont even start talkin trash to me about ammonia and ammonia nitrate or nitric acid punk ass.

SWIM believes he will talk to you about anything he chooses to.

hell yeah warrrrrrrrrrr of the meth heads...shit i got my $$$ on wicked cause least he knows how to make rp/i soooo lol im sure he would win...=)

Sutt, excellent post. this is how swirl said to make your post and "point" to swis in a post not long ago. if swis will cont to post like this respect might be earned in time.

NOW sutt, a little leason. cotton is not the largest crop to use NH3. Swirl knows u being from Miss. cotton is where u would get annie. hell seems as if u cant drive 2 mile without seing cotton in Miss. the No. 1 crop user for annie is corn, it can be grown in a lot more states. now don't know if this is true but have heard that cotton annie has "more" oils than other! n damn cotton farms stink to us non cotton farmer types enough anyway.

Swirl wishes that rp/I/e was learned, but for 26 yr in 3 weeks birch has been the only way, not saying swirl has not sampled others.

LATER !!!! !!!!!!

quote:Originally posted by Wicked_Rain:

1st things 1st treefag, you said this in your post:

"You must cook ephedrine

to produce methamphetamine,then cook methamphetamine to produce MDMA,"

you CANNOT cook methamphetamine to produce MDMA.



AAAhhhGGGGHhhhh!!!!!!

Shutup you damn test tube baby!

dunno what me being a test tube baby has to do with the fact that you are wrong and MDMA cannot be obtained from cooking meth as you stated. post your synth for this exactley to back up your claim or just leave it be. AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHH is right

treefag....hahahhhah that's good. Anyway, you sometimes seem to make some pretty good sense, but other times....*shaking head* I just don't know man. Here is one of the things that was said regarding mdma from meth....I could've swore I just pasted this a day or so ago. Well this sums it up..---->

Suppose it is possible to dihydroxylate the benzene ring of meth, and you are able to isolate it, and methylenate with CH2I2, your yield would be shit. Maybe after your alleged 13 step process you would start with 1 kg meth and end up with maybe a gram of MDMA ??" Posted by: Vitus_Verdegast

(Hive Bee)

So can we lay to rest that myth?

[This message has been edited by LwaysTired (edited 08-30-2003).]

In my opinion, but as the saying goes opinions are like assholes everyone has one, rx'ing annie dope it is easier to fuck yourself up than it is to fuck up the dope,