Thanks for reading guys/gals

Just wanted to check with all of you to see if you recommend swim to carry on.

This will be short-handed writing with no exact measurements or time to conserve space and time(your benefit lol).

PSUEDO

swim tok his pills, soak them with den/al about 3-4 times. then boiled and dried......simmer boiled with toulene til toul stayed clear and no crashing appeared with filt. toul(3-5 times simmer boiled).

then let psuedo dry, after cleaned and filt. with dry acet. Is this clean enough???

RED Phos

took his generic matchs, soaked the strips in alcohol....let it settle then massage strips till white then extract them. let the red settle to the bottom and siphon off alcohol. dry and there is the red phos. Is this clean already???? clean with......



I crystals

put tinct in a jug add muriatic acid stir and sit for 15 mins. then add the peroxide and shake....let settle for 15-20 mins... filter out crystals keep the juice for more extraction later. add water through filter rinsing them....squeeze squeeze...put in a jar with coffe filters on top and bottom. replace every some odd hours till filters stay clean.. All done??? correct???

Now add the ratios of all three in your reaction vessel(bottle) hose on top connecting with 2nd bottle(with paper towel balls to absord populants). 2nd hose connecting both through their sides. use heating tool if reaction is too weak or for faster reation time. Wont rush it....he'll let it take time.



Post reduction

filter out left-over RP and powder it out with hcl gas. dry the filtered and theres swims meth? No cleaning required??

If youve noticed I dont comment much....i like to read everyones experiences, beliefs, theories, and complaints lol. I don't want to be bitch slapped like the frog/trog/treehog...whatever he is.lol

But if this post comes to those reprocussions so be it...i wouldn't want swim to carry on through his reduction if it isnt right.

However, remember swim short handed the BS step by step shit and ratios, swims ratios are correct as gotti told swim.

Is swim on track so far??????

Thanks to the gurus who help swim get this far. Wont mention names for swim could offend him/her for leaving them out.

Thanks again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what the fuck you soaked you match strips.

why didnt you just scrap it off the strips. (?)

and maybe you should have let the I2 settel longer dont you think (?) i dont know.

and is your allihn condenser home made if so shed some light on that subject on how you did it for me please.......

[This message has been edited by MÆE (edited 08-22-2003).]

Davey, Davey, Davey...

Where did it all go wrong?

Well, first off, it was the total lack of sentence structure which makes it impossible to really comprehend anything that SWIDD did... we can start there for the sake of simplicity.

The more detailed that you are in describing your dreams, the more accurately we can invision what was actually being done, rather than what we thought was being done. Understand?

For example, The way that I percieved SWIDD's method of pill cleaning was utter chaos. I was under the impression that SWIDD soaked the pearls in denatured, discarded the denatured and continued with Non-polar solvent boils of the pill mass, attempting to clean it. Is this what was done? I hope not. Next time, try powdering the pills first, then boiling with Non-polars, and THEN extract with the alchohol of choice. The alky must be clear when filtered, so the powder must be completely settled before decanting any alcohol through the filters. Do not disturb the settled pill mass when decanting. After the liquid has been filtered, evaporate it. And VOILA!!! The neon lights should be shining bright... "Welcome to Pinwheel City"

As for I2 crystal precipitation, the objective is to thin the alchohol so that it will no longer dissolve the Iodine crystals. Then one should make the environment extremely acidic, followed by the peroxide which is the oxidizer. Don't go over-board with the Hydrogen Peroxide though, as a little goes a long way with some patience. With too much oxidizing, the I2 crystals don't seem to grow as large. It seems that the excess peroxide just shreds the I2 to pieces[so to speak]. After the crystals precipitate, filter and cold water wash them until the water no longer has a dark yellow color when removed.

As for the red, it should probably be cleaned a bit more. HCl soaks never hurt MBRP, and when followed by an acetone rinse it usually will leave one with some fairly clean RP.

A basic understanding of the entire process is needed to avoid serious catastrophe or complete failure. The first is obviously most important. Keep reading, Davey, it won't do anything but help.

Good Luck and Bee Safe!

Lukky D

Thanks guys for your input:

WHAT THE HELL WAS I TYPING....I EVEN CONFUSED MYSELF READING THAT JIBBER JABBER. LOL

I'll cleanup my post by reposting...and damn, yeah i see many parts to be confusing.

sorry

oh yeah...i had to soak the strips of matches cause that shit was stuck and irritating....and i have to manyoplenty of them to waste money buying something else.

I2 i actually sat for about 8 hours....damn im a confusin person.

most of the time i read and post things at my uni. library with no borders making me uncomfortable and quick to type.

I will read more and more......thanks again lukky and maee

DD

Davey-- I wrote this first part earlier, but had to leave before I was finished. I'm gonna go ahead and post it anyway.

Lukky is most excellent when it comes to giving straight up advice. The best part is, you can always count on it to be true and accurate information.

Davey--

You said you were going to leave out the details and that is fine, but doing so when you are unsure of basic, but key, procedures may not be a good idea. Remember, most everyone can read a lot faster than they can type, so the extra time spent thinking and typing out a good description of what your friend did or wants to do, doesn't really take that much more time to read. It would benefit you greatly.

As lukky said, it sounds like you threw the baby out with the bath water. I will take it for granted that you did not and assume that the crude pseudo that the alcohol pulled is what was boiled in the tolly. If you have access to xylene, then you should dissolve the pseudo in just enough hot alcohol and pour it into at least 5X its volume of xylene, 10X is better, and boil off the alcohol which will precipitate, or crash out, the pseudo. Filter and rinse with dry acetone.

OK, thats where I left off earlier. I read where you told of your confusion, and would like to make a suggestion. Write out your replies and such in a word program first, then copy and paste onto the totse form. This will allow you the extra time you may need to tell what needs to be told without rushing. With my wife, it is a must.

When pulling the rp from striker pads, use acetone. Someone mentioned using alcohol before, so I asked Swigotta to give it a try. He said that it did not remove the rp from the strips as well and removed just as much glue as the acetone. No real advantages. The rest you got from lukky.

The iodine looked good to me. 2% tincture generally has enough water for the first step, but you can add more. After you oxidize (H2O2) you may benefit by putting the whole thing in the freezer for a couple of hours.

Thanks to everyone for summing it up. Also, for not ragging on me.



I took notes of everyones replies and will use them to correct my recipe….however this is what I previously have done…but not the reduction….to frightened to fuck it up till I believe I’m on the right track. lol



Psuedo pills

I got 20 boxes of pills….10 per box at 240mgs each pill. I think my yield was about 38-43(got lazy on my notes). I soaked them in den alchol about 3-4 times….I siphoned the juice from each soak and combined all of the collected juices. Then I discarded the pill substance left in my jar. I then boiled my juices till it was more manageable and let it sit dry out on its own. After it dried I added toluene to it, and boiled and strained it about 3-5 times. I did this until no crashing occurred to the filtered toul when DH2O was added. I then did an acetone wash to it.



Red Phos

Took 4 of my 50 count boxes(200 strips), then soaked them in alcohol and soaked, shook, massaged the strips till white…I let it sit and siphoned the alcohol off. I let the red dry and collected it and stored away.

I crystals

I put 8 ozs of tinct in a jug added 2 ozs muriatic acid, stirred and let it sit for 15 mins. then added the 6 ozs of peroxide and shook the shit out of it ....let settle for 20 mins... shook again and filtered out crystals after in the corner of a cut pillow case and kept the juice for more extraction later. Then added shit load of water through pillowcase rinsing them....squeeze squeeze...put in a jar with coffe filters on top and bottom….replacing filters every some odd hours till filters stay clean. Repeated this for a second collection and the yield was about 7 grams from the 8 ozs of tinct. Good??

No reduction has been attempted…I’ll take my time first learning first. I will make some changes to the above. I now know more from Gotti and lukky posts and will do things with more knowledge before attempting. Thanks mafia crew(LOL you get why I put that right, mafia names…..ummmm nevermind lol)

DD

All sounds fairly good, davey, but tell SWID to keep cutting those matchbooks! From the amount cut, SWIL would be amazed if SWID yielded more than 1 gram of clean MBRP.

SWIL would suggest that SWID purchase a case(20 boxes) and strip those. With more RP to work with, the yield loss should be much lower. 20 boxes of 50 books each can yield around 10 grams of clean MBRP depending on the brand and variety.

The 7 gram yield of I2 is pretty good. With that amount, about 5 grams of pseudo could be reduced. So if SWID plans to reduce all of that phed then it's going to take a whole lot more I2. At least I2 precipitation is easy and cheap, right???

Work on stockpiling and further cleaning that MBRP, it's one of the most time consuming steps of the whole process.



Lukky D

Thanks Lukky D,

stockpiling is a must....damn matches...I hate dealing with them the most....boring and time consuming. I have around 15 more boxes however didn't realize how much would be left after cleaning...damn that suks. Oh well, stockpile i shall.

Thanks,

DD