Forgive the stupid question... For the novice, unskilled, enduser, besides sampling, (which is done, but a begining user may not be able to tell good from bad), are there some simple quick tests that can be done to determine meth quality and purity or if a person is even getting real shit? There is so much out there and not everyone is exactly scrupulous, so knowing how to check this stuff would be a great way to find out who is worth dealing with and who is not.

Send me a sample and i'll test it for you-free of charge!

Yeah, sure thing buddy... maybe this is the wrong forum... not really a how to make type question, just figured the people here would know if anyone does. Have heard of about dropping some in water or bleach and watching it dance, but have no idea what that means when it happens or why it does that or what else will. Melting a small piece and watching it crack as it hardens, but still no idea what that proves. One would assume lots of residue in the pipe would indicate impurities or some sort, but don't really know. One guy says this another says that, of course they all have something to gain from saying those things. Here, chances of crossing paths and knowing it are slim to none, so no reason to bullshit.

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i dont know if this is any help to u but about dropping it in water that really doesnt work you can drop a little freeze dried coffee in water and it will dance so much it will make u dizzzzzyy...about it leaving residue in the pipe thats true it should burn to leave almost nothing the cleaner the glass the cleaner the dope..but that doesnt meen its potent its cleaner dope but might not be as good dope..you could always try it to make sure and then youll be %100 sure if its good or not if you dont want to do that you could always weight what you got and wash it in dried acetone and youll loose whatever impurities u have in there weight it again and the diffrence in weight amounts is the cut that was put in your dope but of course there no better and safer way then to manufacture your own or learn how to cook meth. but if your going to do that let me tell you you gotz to have a lot of patience,discipline,time,some learning capacity maybe a little bit more than some,good observational skills,money,and of course let me remind you that this of course is very illegal getting caught doing this or attempting to manufacture depending what state your in could get you 5-25 in prison..anywayz good luck and i hope this helps you in your quest for knowledge....peace.."crashnburn" waves to all dreamers from down south of the border .....

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i agree there should not be a residue,it should burn clean--and agree that, in itself,thats not a good quality test--to put a point into water--it should disolve very quickly,the cut takes longer to disolve--but like the residue test its not indicative of quality--getting billy buttfucker from down the road to wack 2 points and see if he goes arse up is one way--gas chromography is another way---watching it form pin wheel crystals is a basic way--but to be honest if your just joe blow on the street--nothing beats the personal use test

thers only one way to test dope. do a fat line and see if it rocks your world. if your nose plugs up and you dont immidiatley start taxing down the runway and takeoff and reach cruising altitude in a half hour then go back where you got it and kick em in the head till there eyes pop out

Does it burn clean with no left over residue?

Is it a white crystalline powder?

Does it get you supremely high with very little material?

It is a very white almost clear crystal, almost, but not quite clear when its rocked up, kind of like rock sugar candy. Smash it and its a nice white powder. Smoke it and it leaves a yellowish brown residue which starts out light but as it gets used up and shrinks in the bowl, slowly turns darker, like a really dark yellow or very light brown. The effects are kind of sneaky which is why I was curious in the first place. At first you don't feel much... so you smoke some more... then another... still feel pretty darn stable and sharp and not really rushing or hyper, just feel good... then before you know what happened... "holy shit its 5:00AM!!!" and you are still not tired even thoguh you know you better get at least an hour or two of rest before the day begins....

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well, ive always heard that if ice is cut then its just about impossible to keep it into the shards and it starts turning into smaller crystals and stuff. all the ice i have bought has been big shards and blows ya mind from a small lil line or when ya smoke it as well. im pretty sure im right on this one but dont hold it to me, so yer, if its in shards of it its pretty safe to assume that it is not cut and pretty good quality, specially if its crystal clear mmmmm.

Perth aah---i be the same location---a few of us on here are from the greater swan river basin

Ahhh, and some of us are suckin smog every day, packed by the millions in the big city, far away from the roos.

But, life indoors is probably pretty much the same right now. That is, if you just dropped your friggin pipe on the floor. Hang on a second....................OK, where was I? Oh, yeah, kman you ole dog. What would you do if he sent you some pretty white pseudo laced with strychnine or something? You'd choke like hell, that's what you'd do. Confusious (how the heck do you spell that?)say, "Man who get free gift in mail, can't kick ass of giver."

Well son, it's a hard road you're on, looks like hell, and it appears that the only real way to know for sure comes by the way few choose, but most end up learning from. That is the school of hard knocks; experience. It has always been the best teacher for those who learn their lessons. There is a little truth in a lot of the posts above and a lot of truth in a few of them.

Pinwheels are pseudo, feathers are meth.........sometimes. Your description sounds like some good, clean, long legged meth with very few side reaction byproducts and relatively easy recovery. I'd say stick with this dude if the price is right.

well gogo, perth is a city as well--1.3 million i think--quite spread out--coastal--very mild winters and hot long summers---the air is reknowned for being some of the cleanest in the world--straight from antartica brought up by the roaring 40s---we havent lost much--the river still has all its fish, with prawns and crabs march through june and marron season open for 12 days a year(marron are our fresh water lobster reaching 5 pounds)--the ocean fishing is heavily controlled, which means exploitation hasnt occured--we still have it all--from lobster 50yards from the beach to sailfish and marlin 40miles out---you can travel 3 miles out and be fishing in 30foot of water---12 miles out and your in 90foot--continental shelf is 35-40 miles out and from there she drops off to 6000 feet--the port is fremantle where we have about 8000 yank sailors drop in every 3 months for rest, rooting and recreation---they say we have some of the finest ladies in the world(but 3 months at sea and anything with tits would begin to look ravishing)--i do know they outnumber us about 3 to 1 in my age group(40s) and 5 to 1 in the 20s age group(dont ask me why this is--it just is)--i have lived and worked quite a bit in the US and i must say you have some places over there that are not matched anywhere in the world for there natural beauty, i did my degrees at cal state long beach and loved LA, nothing you couldnt get--would live there tomorrow--but to raise my children--you cant beat perth--safe, healthy,great surf, hunting and fishing--great place for kids to grow up--i know you didnt ask for this description of home but i just felt like typing for a bit---good luck my friend and may your kangaroos not rape your sheep

shitttt, in vegas, its 2 years baby. for makin it, lol 2 years for manufacture and trafficin and 1 count of gta

<<<<<<<<<<<<moving to Vegas!!!!!!!!!!!!

snofperdition man there are ways to check to see if its pure dope and if its good dope without actually smokin it on the foil..........well how i personally tell if its good or not is i hit it one time on the foil and if i don't get a headfuk and start tingling 1sec later than its str8 bullshit and if i cough its cut.......but i smoke fire maybe you don't =)....i use to do cut dope then i hit the pure nothing like the pure man and if u do it alot then you can never go back to low grade shit.....if it burns clear on the foil its clean dope which usually means pure dope...except people can use green label b12 which is vitablend which burns clear.....or red label which clumps up and turns a lil yellow tanish brown.....usually good dope burns clear or a real light yellow and if most of it burns clear and some don't then its prolly 1to1........i personally think if you smoke 1/4 paper and ain't geeking then its bullshit....but thats my outlook....you can always take the real shitty dope clean it with ether and filter it again cause all the bullshit will break up and the dope will stay crystalline...........i mean you could always re roll it aswell and gas it then you got some str8 fire....or lol you could shoot it up if your a junkie cause regardless your doing pure =)...to make a long story short usually if it burns blue smoke or purple and white aswell and burns clear on the foil its fire.............also the way it smells lets u know if its cut dope.......not only that but cut looks different than real dope soo u could do an eye tester jus look at it real good andu can do a taste test to.....try some vitablend 1st soo u know what it taste like then some pure dope............goodluck i recommend cookin your own soo u get pure 24/7 anytime you want =)