im new to the chemistry boards, but i want to learn to make my own shit cuz most things are hard to get in my city. does neone know how to make speed or shit like that. id appreciate no flaming but im sure ill get it for asking a dumb question. thanx neway

http://www.rhodium.ws/chemistry/

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rsl/rsl/rsl/rsl/rsl/

There is no other way.

Good luck

thanks for that site, but now im lost as shit. i guess im a dumbass but i thought u could just get the steps to make diff drugs and do it. i know there are no easy drugs to make, but whats the easiest to do in ur moms house?

growing weed or shrooms possibly.

Go back to school

forget this shit

Anything takes more than u got.

Mom's house ? fuck me. forget it.

Meth is your answer.

So do an I2 extract and stain the fuck out of mom's house. Not to mention your lungs. Start someware or f*ck off.

READ THE POSTS. USE TFSE

Do you know what a polar and a non-polar solvent is ? Start here.

Just kidding couldbecrazy04.

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J

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i need a simple method of meth

we are trying to tell you there is no simple method when you begin without even basic high school chemistry behind you---to learn you must go back to rhodium as advised and choose wether your going to do it the red phos way or the ammonia sodium metal way---then sit and study it--learn what the substances are--ie what is the hardware store name for meoh--cant walk in and buy it calling it that--if you see a word or a series of letters you dont understand--you must look it up before progressing-goodluck

Thanks for the link ive been looking for something like it for a while

The prisons are packed with people who found it hard to locate decent shit. I, too, made that decision 3 years ago. In that time I have somewhat successfully avoided LE, but they aren't far behind me. Get used to moving quickly & often, learning to distrust almost everyone around you, and realize that a long stay in prison may be your final reward. If you ARE the type to roll over once busted, know that as a cook you are at the top of the food chain and that nothing you can tell them will help you avoid prison As a drug manufacturer you are more sought after than a child molester. Even more sought after than a murderer.

So, if after these warnings you decide to venture forth, and should you decide to employ the birch method, I'll be glad to coach you.

^^A lot depends on the state, right? Laws and sentencing vary. In Nevada, manufacture is a class B felony with a 3-15 year state prison sentence. Assuming no one was killed and it was a first-time offense, and not near a school or college.

But yeah, it does suck to get caught. Trust NO ONE.

simple? well if there was a simple way, ie. like making chocolate milk chocolate+milk, i would love to know, until then i'll stick with birch.

smart words smellium--my friend has been playing silly buggers for many years and his success comes from those words--be a loner--watch your back--never drop your guard--and always be ready to drop and move at a moments notice

Morgan my man. Where does swim source ammonia.?

Not fert. fuck me

if so how is Sandy the sand groper getting it cold enough.?

Hey, does anybody here know the quantity of Gamma-Butyrolactone needed to synthesize ghb (does anyone know a ratio)? and do you know how its used for bodybuilding. Does it make muscle building easier.

sourcing anhydrous ammonia (must be anhydrous ammonia--nothing else)--ok thats a goody--BOC gases--(use to be CIG gases)--youll find them in the yellow pages--you really must look the part again--overalls --boots--(when you walk in check out the counter hands,very low paying job, youll see a doofus looking guy and a few average looking ones, go for doofus,he may not ask the questions)-and the right story--mine was---marine engineering company--we had prawn trawlers coming into the yards for a refit--we had to drain there refrigeration system and service it--we needed the ammonia to flush the system before refilling with freeon--theyl want a drivers license--youll have to open an account which requires an address--cant be a home address--they will send mail and accounts there--and if its a residential theyl report you--any mates business address will do--theyl expect you to pay for it there and then--get the 34kilo size bottle--if you do not have sizeable ute with the ability to have the bottle outside and standing when tied they will refuse to let it go and they will demand to deliver it by truck--( road transport rules- cant get around them)if its truck delivery best have that address sorted out as the driver will sus you out--cost is about $247 for the gas--$120 for the rental of the bottle for 12 months--now if this method for obtaining the ammonia is beyond you--try and con your way into the BOC gases storage yard--ammonia must be kept outside under worksafe rules--identify where they keep it in the yard--organize a large vehicle--and hit them at 3am (watch the yard the night before to get the guards timetable down so you dont cross him)--now steal as many canisters as you can--and i mean that--they may get shitty and put up electrical fencing--get a rottweiler to bite your arse--install cameras--so on--so if your going to steal--do it once and take it all--you may not get another chance--oh yeah--if you do steal--clean your home out--if your caught--there going to search your house--if they find ingredients or solvents for meth theyl do you for manufacture --best only being busted for burg on a commercial premises--fine and bond--good luck

Good lets for the sake of your damn meth addiction just cause chaos and crime. Lets give the whole drug using crowd a bad name by breaking into places and stealing everything.

You complain that the laws are too restrictive and big brother is everywhere yet people suggest dumbass things like this.

Conning them out of some ammonia=good -->no one gets hurt, it's all good.

Breaking in and ripping them off = bad publicity and no ammonia in the future --> it's all about sustainable underground chemistry.

Lets not make our world into a place where you need a licence to purchase drain cleaner. OK?

yes i know tryp--sorry about that---but some dont have the skills to pull off being someone there not--none the less i take your point

JE-SUS CHRIST!!!!!! Call it what you want.... Steal the shit and DON'T leave behind any evidence for christ's sake. If you do your an idiot!!!! Leave it like you found it. That's the way to get the ANNY!

aah the freedom of speech--the benefits of conflicting views--you gotta love this forum--you get all sides to the coin and then another 3rd side you never even new existed--thanks for the input tripp

ok I'm REALLY confused now.

Why does the annie method surprise me in its

un-expertise-nedded to do than the hypo/rp

method of reduction?

Why is annies method preffered by some but not others?

I'm suspecting the annyhdrous annie method is

cheaper/easier.....maybe I'm wrong.

Can somebody tell me which method is most preffered by them..thanks.

By the way I'm asking this because the

only thing I see theoretically better about the annie methods is less margin for error and/or variables to be introduced to create errors. What is your opinion, anybody,.

friends have only ever done the annie method( birch reduction)so they have no basis to comment on what is better--but it is quicker--ammonia being lighter than air the fumes go straight up--not in the neighbours nose--can be done with kitchen ware--the actual reduction requires no heat or power source--i cant comment on cheaper or easier for reasons previously explained--when you say the only thing you see different is the theoretical possibility for less margin for error and/or variables---thats a massive difference--the less margin for error and the less chance of unknown variables occuring is a huge advantage--but im from australia--and we seem to be able to access annie ingredients easier than the red phos way--but you must see what is best suited for you--and your location--good luck

in my neck of the desert, birch is preffered more than other methods because of the accesability of anhy. ammonia. most people i know prefer annie dope more than the more common crystal that is around my town. annie method is used by most independent cooks around here, crystal is made by the bikers mainly. also as in swims case, groups of 4-5 cooks cook together (go to work) as part of a crew. swim says independent with no crew is the best way to go.

sup morgan i agree make it using the birch throry....somewhere i swim said you could you a gastank gernerator....that means a gascan,ammounia nitrate fert,lye,water becareful swim said its even better than tank dope cause no oild also swim said it burns more clear like that =)