swil knows that everyone is probaly tried of answering all the bullshit but swil decided to extract psuedo using meoh filterd with charmin plug and allowed to evap slowly under 60w bulb then acetone rinsed and recrystalized with hot iso-alky then noticed when shards finished still some powder in the bowl so swil did another meoh extract filterd and used charmin plug evaped acetone rinse and rerystalized untill only the clearest and longest shards showed up in the bowl (very exciting)

rxn time was short and hot(swil knows better but just experminting) lots of smoke in the flask and it did doubled in size and bubbled like crazy in swil's other dreams it never doubled or bubbled swil doesn't think but not for sure about the bubbling anyway swil has been buzzing over at the hive and was reading that swil probaly burned all the psuedo up. true?

post reaction went ok swil thinks and end results were shards in the evap bowl rinsed with acetone and recrystalized the clear,shiny and very light crystals, while crushing the crystal it sounded like someone walking through snow! swil tried a burn test on foil and no trace of anything after finished burning (very clear) and had a faint smell of meth or aleast what swil thinks it smells like but kinda scared to try it cause after reading at the hive the psuedo probaly burned up in the reaction or not? if so what does swil have left?

Burnt pseudo(ash or whatever) will not come across in an acid/base extraction. Whatever SWILBM has is either pseudo or meth, or a mixture of unreduced pseudo and meth.

SWIL says that SWILBM should take a few tokes of the smoke. If the shards are as clean as SWILBM describes, then there should be nothing to worry about.

How long was the reaction? What were the ratios? What heat was it at? These questions will give SWILBM an idea of how much meth she has.

Lukky D

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the rxn time was about 1.5 - 2hrs @ 175F to 195F maybe higher not sure

started with 3e, 3lbrp, and 5i2 yeild was about 1.5 to 2gms

oh and about 2.5-3mls of dh20

*these are very rough estimates*

swil figured swil would screw it up so didn't do any extra careful measurments

swil kinda inhaled alittle smoke not much but kinda felt swils heart race a tiny bit and kinda weird too don't know how to explain it

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you should definetely be getting some return of meth if you are in fackt having dreams.

but five pounds of rp is a little much doncha think?

oh yeah Mistress where ya from "down south"

anyhow?

3g e 1.5g i2 and 3lb rp lol um

just read swit's post swil was like WTF until swil went back and reread swils post LOL

sorry for the confusion it was meant to read:

3gms of e

3gms of lab grade rp

5gms of I2



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Actually, treephrog, she wrote 3lbrp, so that would've been three pounds, not five.

heh....

I'm gonna try a five pounder one day

when I get a Military issue chem suit and

a bomb shelter built. But until then I prolly stick with gram sized nanos.

Something I can extinguish with a glass

of lemonade.

This asswipe sounds familiar!! Aren't you from "down south" dickhead?? Sounds like a

sweetboy named Slime

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys are so funny.

Hello missy--

What signs led you to believe that you had "burned up" your pseudo? There are still some who insist that you can fry the shit out of it and produce good meth, and do it quick.

Swigotta did some experiments with high temps and quick, dry reactions. He got extremely varied results, unpredictable and total shit, but he never burned it up. The hottest reaction was about 135C, cooked it dry (I mean until it dried up) and it still produced something. Not sure exactly what, but that crazy bastard was up for days, confused as hell, edgy and meaner than a snake. Did a lot of twitching, too.

As for testing, don't be a pussy (well, maybe you don't have a choice hahaha)

Forget that.

If you are getting nice pretty crystals growing in shards, it is doubtful you will sustain any serious harm if you smoke some. Hit it a little. If the taste is smooth or cool or as long as it doesn't gag the shit out of you, take several big ole hits pretty rapidly then wait and observe your reaction for 5-10 minutes. Pseudo will make you sweat and your heart pound like a jackhammer. It will dissipate within the hour. Meth will GENERALLY come on much slower (when smoked) showing itself to you in about 10 minutes and reassuring you of its presence in about 20 minutes. Can't say how long it lasts cause Swigotta always continues smoking. Even post reaction pseudo has that pseudo taste. Pseudo also has a tendency to flame up when overheated. If you are unsure what that taste is, smoke A VERY SMALL AMOUNT of your pseudo. It will be forever engraved in your memory.

From his experiences, Swigotta has found that post reaction pseudo crystals are much prettier and well defined than meth crystals. When slightly damp meth crystals are rinsed with acetone and then rinsed and dried in a filter, they are granular in texture, like fine beach sand or finely powdered snow, and have the appearance of a pile of diamonds, sparkling in the light. Pseudo many times forms plates and large flat crystalline shapes using the same technique.

1:1:1.5 DH2O=pseudo 75C 40 hrs. was best ever pseudo=modified VE Str8 2 E I=sublimed rp=bsmb (but clean) 13.6g. in 7.4g. dual crys. out. very satisfied.

Hey Miss... Swirh tried the Pseudosmoke a while ago...just to confirm the taste...

Gotta is right...very engraining to say the least... Swirh equates it with a "hairspray" taste... Ummm , well if you have ever sprayed underarm deod.. in ur mouth by mistake or hairspray...

Somewhat of a really nasty chemically taste...Swirh has noticed that (if panning) the end result is somewhat "flat" and not sparkly at all. Looks very powdery and chalk-like.

Ok so how do dreamers describe the taste of the goods? Sure it depends on how clean you get it etc....

OK let me see............a big hit............tastes a little like..........well..meth. Let me try again. A medium sized hit tastes like.......ok mrs. swigotta just said, "it tastes like a chemical...I don't know. Its a smooth chemical, though."

She will not tolerate it if it isn't clean. Acdtone just won't cut it. No, it has to be dual solvent. Two hours instead of five minutes.

OK, really, there has got to be a way to describe the taste of this shit. When it first enters your mouth it tastes cool, with a slight parrafin taste, kinda waxy, well sorta. A big hit will leave a slightly bitter aftertaste. The chemical taste is much like what we used to call the taste when ya bang it. We always called it the "ether" taste. There is something common that is similar to what I lamely described as the waxy taste. I just can't seem to put my finger on it yet.

Sorry, I gotta wait a while before I try again. Whew!!!

Hey guys, well swil thinks is psuedo by the way that swigotta and swirh said it kinda flat and not very granular but very sparkly though after acetone rinse(panning) swil took a small hit and felt kinda hot and a increase in heartbeat but it really didn't have a taste too much but swil got a small rush and headache a little while after. when put in a glass tube and heated then removed from heat it turn into a clear liquid kinda took alot of heat to melt then let cool and went back whiteish clear then heated agian and burn up no ugly residue in the tube.

*swil gonna get swim to test it in a couple of days*

p.s. swil could send pics(maybe)

lo bottom--

There are a few key items in your description that indicate that you have something more than pseudo. Perhaps you'd better send me an eightball or so to check out for ya. You know, offer my assistance. It's the least I should do. hahahahaha

This part is very inconsistent with pseudo and pretty much characterizes good meth--

" when put in a glass tube and heated then removed from heat it turn into a clear liquid kinda took alot of heat to melt then let cool and went back whiteish clear then heated agian and burn up no ugly residue in the tube. "

This does not confirm the composition of the substance, but it does confirm a few other things.

"went back whiteish clear "

and

"no ugly residue in the tube. "

are definite signs that your pseudo was sufficiently cleaned prior to use.

"kinda took alot of heat to melt"

Swigotta said his experiences lead him to believe that decent dope takes more heat to get it flowin' than incomplete dope or pseudo.

" it really didn't have a taste too much but swil got a small rush and headache a little while after."

This sounds a lot like an incomplete reaction that you managed to selectively pull a higher percentage of the intermediate and meth content or a lesser percentage of the remaining pseudo.

I don't know if this is an accurate mechanism or not, but it seems as though raw unchanged pseudo is not present, or at least not in a high enough amount to be obvious.

Do some more of it and further observe the affects. I doubt if it will hurt.

Sounds good.

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SWIM knows one person who said it kinda seemed to remind them of an off tasteing fluride almost.

*takes a lungfull* Hmmm....*smacking lips*

Hell, I dunno if I ever tasted anything like it until that day when I actualy tasted it. Let me tell you, it tastes delicious. Better than "the best part of waking up" crap. Folgers ain't got shit on a FAT bowl at the crack of dawn=) Whhaaa Hooooo!!

Def the only thing that keeps one from killing their alarm clock....