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| Laboratory Tips Safety proceedures, test reagents, drilling rubber stoppers, bending glass tubes, etc. Contributed to by chemists. |
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#1
 2003-07-17, 17:57
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J-mAN 
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White 60's
Question
How would swim extract these 60's
Description:
Active ingredient: Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride 60.00 mg.
Inactive ingredients: Lactose, cellulose-microcrystalline, silica colloidal anhydrous, sodium starch glycollate, povidone, vegetable oil-hydrogenated, magnesium stearate.
It is free from gluten and antihistamines
Thanks.
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#2
 2003-07-18, 04:23
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kman 
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Re: White 60's
Have you checked the extractions(E-GULL, IDEA& Straight to E) on Rhodium?
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#3
 2003-07-19, 12:32
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J-mAN 
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Re: White 60's
Look "TCE" you can't get here .ok
MEK cannot be obtained in pure form. Do you have a still????? swIm don't. swIm could not buy this stuff without reason. You blokes have got it made.
AM is ChemHead going to Come back.??
Peace.
J.
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#4
 2003-07-20, 08:20
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Sinus2 
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Re: White 60's
1: damn skippy chemhead will be back by august 1st......bigger and badder than ever.......... 2: my email addy has and will be the same..........someone forget the host? the server builder? the bill payer? I have the backups and never got a response back about setting them up at AM's temporarily....if you people knew the fucking hell I've been through just to survive......nevermind.......but know this.not a day has gone by i didn't think about the site and worry about gathering the group back up........I have been limited to dial up down south for a while.........BUT THINGS ARE ABOUT TO CHANGE. I'm going home to start over as soon as my last paycheck from here comes and I sell my 95 gt mustang I had left down here............ALL JUST TO GO BACK AND PUT CHEMHEAD BACK THE WAY IT WAS WHEN I WAS screwed over.SPREAD THE WORD and watch my smoke.
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#5
 2003-07-20, 11:32
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J-mAN 
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Re: White 60's
Thanks Sinus.
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#6
 2003-07-20, 17:03
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morgan 
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Re: White 60's
grind pills to fine dust--soak in 100% mineral turps for 12 hours--drain--add 3 times volume of dry toluene--heat to simmering 110c whilst stirring --keep at simmering for 8 mins--then drain off toluene--repeat toluene wash two more times--then allow to cool--one dry acetone wash --then an ab extraction--you now have clean eph
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#7
 2003-07-20, 17:07
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J-mAN 
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Re: White 60's
Thanks morgan.100% mineral turps that's not turpentine substitute is it (un1300)?
J
[This message has been edited by J-mAN (edited 07-20-2003).]
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#8
 2003-07-20, 17:27
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J-mAN 
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Re: White 60's
you still awake morgan
where did you get it.
p.s. lithium eh. is that your meathod.
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#9
 2003-07-22, 04:11
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morgan 
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Re: White 60's
buy it from any hardware--mineral turpentine 100%--quite cheap--are you in australia--
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#10
 2003-07-22, 05:39
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morgan 
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Re: White 60's
oh i forgot--between the acetone wash and the ab extraction---you must extract the eph from the pill base--add 3 times the pill volume of methylated spirits 95%--mix thoroughly--then pour through filter--do this twice more--then evaporate off the metho--this will leave you only the eph--now do your ab extraction---if your reducing using the birch reduction--use hexane as the solvent in the ammonia--in aust its called shellite 100%--dont forget to dry it--and dont forget to dry your acetone, toluene and mineral turps
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#11
 2003-07-22, 09:23
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morgan 
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Re: White 60's
are you after some methyl ethyl ketone???
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#12
 2003-07-22, 18:52
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J-mAN 
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Re: White 60's
Yes and yes.
swIm has never seen 100% turps, only substitute. nor has swIm ever seen 100%shelite.
http://www.diggersaust.com.au/datasheets/datasheets.asp
Also some products are made by the above website but you can't seem to be able to get them. eg eylene,MEK. If you know where to source this stuff in YOUR city it would be a great help morgan.
peace
J
What method is done in your area morgan.?
[This message has been edited by J-mAN (edited 07-22-2003).]
[This message has been edited by J-mAN (edited 07-22-2003).]
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#13
 2003-07-22, 22:50
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morgan 
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Re: White 60's
i see you listed the diggers company--they are the only company i buy my solvents from--most hardwares carry the turps and shellite---look for it---i have a little paint mixing company here in perth that has 400litre drums of mek in there yard--very easy to help yourself to one drum at 3am--im using the birch reduction over here
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#14
 2003-07-30, 10:52
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J-mAN 
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Re: White 60's
Ok is this the turps? [
[This message has been edited by J-mAN (edited 07-31-2003).]
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#15
 2003-07-30, 12:34
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morgan 
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Re: White 60's
no mate it isnt---you must use the mineral turpentine100%--im surprised its not obvious--its in every hardware store in the solvents section---ok the toluene is fine--in aust--its better to extract in a/b with hexane--this is shellite100%--found on the same shelf as the mineral turps--friends have found the shellite is the better to use in the ammonia for the eph to kick into--yes toluene is a watched item--buy it in 1 and 4 litre containers from different hardware stores--some paint mixers have it for sale--carefull though--the hardware store people will fink on you---no the lacquer shit is useless--youll only need--mineral turps--toluene--acetone--denatured water--shellite--methylated spirits--all diggers sold--good luck my victorian friend--may the eagles truly kick your butt
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#16
 2003-07-30, 18:58
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morgan 
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Re: White 60's
ok i had the chance to go through those portals and have a look--the first one turpentine gum--no dont touch it--the mineral turpentine looks the one--i grabbed a bottle out of the cuboard--on the top is the caution --then diggers in yellow letters---then mineral turpentine in black letters--under that is contains:100%hydrocarbon liquid--that should be enough to lead you to it----also have a shellite bottle here---same caution---then diggers in large yellow lettering--shellite in black lettering--under that is contains 100% hydrocarbon liquid---- diggers also has (the yanks refer to it as red devil lye)we call it caustic soda---little white plastic canister with a red lid--its marked as diggers caustic soda---sodium hydroxide990g/kg--this has been found to work best for the a/b extraction---dont follow the yank items list as we either dont have it here--its named different( ie: there hexane is our shellite)diggers also has the methylated spirits you need --obvious title--but must get 95% or above--if in doubt --get a few ml--evaporate it on a glass sheet and look for any residual substance not evaporating--if there is any--dont use it whatever you do--metho must evap off leaving no residue---epsom salts to clean solvents---youll find this in most garden centres or hardware stores in the soil supplements section( im presuming you know how to prepare it and then use it)the glassware is a bit of a bugger--the whole cook can be done without lab glassware--but as time goes on its nice to acquire and makes life easier--a separatory funnel is real handy--be carefull--real carefull--glass is red flagged--the bottle used for the ammonia and sodium metal and ephedrine to go into--i get these from beer brewing shops--there a 4 litre glass bottle that come with a red stopper with hole in it--costs about 20dollars--these are the best seen so far--heat resistant--heavy walled glass--to gas i use sulphuric acid99%--bought from lab supply houses--use this as your in to the lab supply house--ill tell you how i did it--use whatever method is comfortable with you--but you must get these people to trust you--and run a mile if you feel they dont--if you have tats and earings--get rid of them or cover them--long hair--cant have it anymore--these are straight people and will report a long hair just because he is one--i put on work overalls--i got these from my job offshore---they have diving badges on the shoulders--company emblem on the back--work boots--walked in with a folder--introduced nmyself as the purchasing officer for the company i work for--asked for there catelogue--and picked up a 4 litre bottle of acid as well as some ph sticks--chatted up the receptionist--paid with cash out of an envelope marked petty cash  ffice and lab sundries--asked for reciept and joked how if i didnt get one they go nuts--smiled at everyone--left with goodies and catelogue--went back about every two weeks--bought a bit of glass tubing--there spoons and stirrers--then a heater stirrer--then a few erlenmeyer flasks--buchner funnel--sep funnel--then gave an order for 2 4 litre heavy walled beakers and 2 250grm cans of sodium metal--they asked what its for--told them we had stainless steel work equipment coming in from offshore and we soak it in a bath and cleanse it--they use it in there--also told them im only the purchasing officer and dont really know what the lab boys get up to in the R and D department--if they question you--and you dont know the answer--dont make it up--these guys are chemical engineers--theyl peg you straight away--easier to be something like purchasing officer who can say he is a clerk and doesnt have a clue what they do down there in the lab--the other acid for the gassing--i use hydrocloric acid--comes from pool shop--must be above 34%acidcontent and is called hypochlorite solution--nothing else comes to mind--if it does ill write further--any questions please ask--eagles for the premiership!!!
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#17
 2003-08-02, 19:22
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loutre bottom mistress 
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Re: White 60's
hey just wandering if chemhead is back yet? if so is it still .org or something else.
(sinus2 said august 1st)
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#18
 2003-08-02, 22:56
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morgan 
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Re: White 60's
sorry ms anal mistress,dont know
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#19
 2003-08-03, 23:34
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cranknymph 
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Re: White 60's
quote:Originally posted by Sinus2:
1: damn skippy chemhead will be back by august 1st......bigger and badder than ever.......... 2: my email addy has and will be the same..........someone forget the host? the server builder? the bill payer? I have the backups and never got a response back about setting them up at AM's temporarily....if you people knew the fucking hell I've been through just to survive......nevermind.......but know this.not a day has gone by i didn't think about the site and worry about gathering the group back up........I have been limited to dial up down south for a while.........BUT THINGS ARE ABOUT TO CHANGE. I'm going home to start over as soon as my last paycheck from here comes and I sell my 95 gt mustang I had left down here............ALL JUST TO GO BACK AND PUT CHEMHEAD BACK THE WAY IT WAS WHEN I WAS screwed over.SPREAD THE WORD and watch my smoke.
hey...any further updates yet for chemhead site?????
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