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| Laboratory Tips Safety proceedures, test reagents, drilling rubber stoppers, bending glass tubes, etc. Contributed to by chemists. |
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#1
 2003-07-13, 18:52
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Masahed 
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Pulled some lighter fluid through, does it matter?
At the end of curbs nano, where the bottom layer is pulled out, SwiM says he accidently pulled a little bit of the top layer through as well.
He knows this is not preferable but wonders what difference, if any, it will make?
Thanks.
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#2
 2003-07-13, 18:57
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kman 
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Re: Pulled some lighter fluid through, does it matter?
Masahed, I think I heard somewhere that you can just burn the naptha off the top.
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#3
 2003-07-13, 20:20
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Masahed 
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Re: Pulled some lighter fluid through, does it matter?
Thanks dude, just one more niggling doubt, SwiM say's his hand slipped when he was adding the 4 drops of HCL (personally I think he was drunk & got careless) & it turned into 3 drops & a squirt. What effect would this have?
Thanks again, SwiM knows theses are kinda dumb Q's, but thats it for now!
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#4
 2003-07-13, 20:52
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stillbill 
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Re: Pulled some lighter fluid through, does it matter?
Swis has a sneaky suspicion Swim has made
a jar of sweet honey and is keeping it to
himself HE HE Just kiddin
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#5
 2003-07-13, 22:05
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Re: Pulled some lighter fluid through, does it matter?
Hey Masa...Swirh would suggest just putting the bottom layer back in and trying again...
Maybe a sep funnel?? Since it is a nano tho...how bout a quart zippy lok bag for a ghetto? One could cut a corner off (hell even a pin hole if one had the time) and be very precise. That would be strictly ghetto tho..
Since you said too much Hcl might have been added...brings up a good point for the dilution of Hcl (if you are not already...The extra acid will "burn off" (not literally now) just somewhat sucks if you breath the fumes...Another good point for a fume hood...Swirh has seen exhaust fans locked because of newbee overeagerness with the Hcl...That stuff is some corrosive shit...good point for oiling any exhaust system fan motors(whether it be jus a fan or a ghetto fume hood. Anyhow...hope Swirh did not relay any wrong info (if he did he would appreciate the heads up on it), and hope this helps...
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#6
 2003-07-13, 22:37
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tReePHrOg 
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Re: Pulled some lighter fluid through, does it matter?
Anyone who has actually made this mistake would know from experience that a little(little) bit of nonpolar or excess hydrochloric doesn't affect your M(eth_) at
a molecular level, but if you are gotta, you may be apt to thinking that a mere molecule of either liquid may affect your proper levetation from the planet we know as "Earth"
In order to properly exit the atmoshphere
of our planet, gotta says no extras in your
evaporation plate if this can be avioded,
point taken though you said you ALREADY have np in your evaporation plate with your
(M)eth/water, this absolutely does not hurt
anything at a molecular level, although gotta
will not be forgiven by the Angel of Darkness
if HE were to have a little NP in his Me(th).
I personnally like a little taste to my shiz
cause I'm not a plunger-pusher, he is the
king of slammers dope and deserves credit
for whatever weird and exciting bullshit
he comes up with next. From 1 gram to 12 pounds a little(little) of np or hcl in the evaporation dish will not hurt, provided the
ephed/psopoo was fully/properly stripped of
oxygen and the acid/basing steps were done
properly. If I am totally wrong someone that
has 9 years in the Med. Technician field or
Superman will come crucify me me for speaking
and burn me at the cross like the KKK.
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#7
 2003-07-13, 23:48
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Masahed 
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Re: Pulled some lighter fluid through, does it matter?
Thanks Guys.
*didn't see the need to criticise another member who is just trying to help, it's not SwiMs business though so he'll keep out of it*
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#8
 2003-07-13, 23:57
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tReePHrOg 
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Re: Pulled some lighter fluid through, does it matter?
By the way, at a molecular level, the post
reaction fluid with your meth in it is (filtered) therefore leaving
water(meth,leftover I-). To this a base of
sodium hydroxide is added,This gives electrons or a alkilinic surrounding to all
meth molecules,making it freebase(free to GIVE electrons) and also ability to migrate into a nonpolar solvent, to this np solvent(meth FB,base), a water layer is added, until you add HCl acid there is no attraction of electrons, when an hcl acidic
water layer is added your +14 meth freebase
molecules come in to contact with the hcl acid water the meth FB gives up electrons to the acid till it has no more to give and becomes polar(water)soluable and "Drops off"
into the water, becoming a hydrochloric "salt" of metampertamine. The only highly visible signs of success is to smoke load a bowl er two after evaporation.
If this molecular theory is wrong please let me know gotta in the most unprofessional,confusing long post you can,
whether I'm a "newb" or an ass of sorts just
explain to this guy what is correct and ill-correct. I wouldnt doubt at a ph of +11 to +14,your hcloric water layer should register
a ph of 4 or 5 or 6 max for best results.
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#9
 2003-07-14, 04:07
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RedHorse 
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Re: Pulled some lighter fluid through, does it matter?
Hey Phroggie...is it not time for your meds again?? No respect man no respect...Gotta wasn't even in this post (unless Swirh missed him hehe) and you are flaming the shit outta him...Let's take a wild guess: you get off doing this and prob are jackin off with one hand, keyboard in the other, and a damn coathanger around your neck hung around the closet doorknob...Swirh would not be surprised...
A juvenile will often say/perform things in order to show his/her underlying affection for the object of attention. (Like a little boy teasing because he actually likes the girl) Watch out Gotta--Phrog may have some homoerotic tendancies and may secretly be longing for some "special" attention.
At any rate...Flog needs to get a new hobby instead of taking potshots at a excellent teacher and someone with many people learn from...Damn punks... Learn some respect...Maybe you can use some of your very apparent intellect to power up the "judgement" portion of your brain. The best teachers on this site often give excellent answers with an explanation to back up the answer. You obviously cannot "think outside the box" and realize intelligence when you encounter it...
Swirh does not like smartass punks that try to sling shit on someone that did not do anything to deserve it. Just rubs him the wrong way...Obviously Flog did not grow up around people like Swirh did...otherwise his ass would have been a large mass of tenderized hamburger from the daily beatings...Peace all mammals..
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#10
 2003-07-14, 04:30
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Masahed 
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Re: Pulled some lighter fluid through, does it matter?
Hate to play devils advocate here & I hope gotta knows he has my esteem & respect, you too Red.
However, frog did offer what seemed like a sincere apology to gotta & it was flatly rejected. No doubt this lead to an escalation of this shit.
frog- stop instigating.
gotta- let it go.
the rest of us- let them sort it between themselves.
That's my two cents anyway (to coin a US phrase). Peace.
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#11
 2003-07-14, 04:58
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Re: Pulled some lighter fluid through, does it matter?
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#12
 2003-07-14, 05:05
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Re: Pulled some lighter fluid through, does it matter?
Then your two-cents were well spent.
Acknowldging ones ill-chosen behavior is an honorable act.
To me till gotta accepts the apology he should not be encouraged to disregard.
Afterall, nobody is special here.
We all participate as equals.
And apologies are never given twice!
so gotta accept the apology or we all will suffer from frogs' frustrations.
There's my two-pennies people.
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