im using cold pot permanganate and have mixed 2 solutions its gone from purple to a light ornge/red color do i need to ad

hcl. acid . i dont think i need isoprop alc as i used very little p p. how long shal i leave in fridge

THIS IS NOT THE METHOD IM FOLLOWING BUT ITS SIMILAR

i posted this elsewhere. i use it and it works. i fuck up amphetamines so i make cat.



Sure, a book. You need pottassium permanganate. Pseudoephedrine. Lye. hcl. Distilled water. NP solvent(colemans, ether, toulene,etc.

You will need 1g pottassium permanganate per 2 1/2g of pseudoephedrine. Mix in a jar the pottassium with the water. About 15ml water per gram pottassium. Add your pseudo and shake it up. Stick this in the fridge for 8-12 hours.

Add enough lye dissolved in a small amount of water for the pH to be 9-10. Test it. Add the lye slowly while stirring with a plastic spoon. when the pH is 9-10, pour in your NP solvent(i use ether). Use as much ether as water/cat. Shake the fucker hard for at least 4 minutes. Then put it down and let it seperate. When its seperated, suck off the top layer(ether) with an eyedropper or syringe or something and put it in a clean jar. Pour some more ether into the pottassium/lye jar and shake the fucker again. Let it seperate again. Suck off the ether and add it to the other jar with the ether.

Now you have a jar with ether in it. In the ether is your cat freebase. Pour some water into the ether and again, shake that bitch. Let it seperate. Suck the water out, or the ether off, so you have the ether alone. Throw away the water.

To finish, put half as much water in with the ether. Drop in hcl ONE drop at a time, shaking and checking pH between drops. Stop adding hcl when the pH is 5-6. Definitely under 7. Shake it real good. When this has been done, remove the water layer(bottom) and evaporate it. The remaining crystals are methcathinone HCL.

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IS THE HCL. ACID STILL NEEDED IF YOU DONT USE LYE

Check the PH. add only enough DILUTED hcl to bring the PH down to 6 or five. do this only after it has been chillin' for about 10 hours. make sure to filter it VERY well to get all of the pottassium out. You did say that youre not doing an a/b, right? how long has it been in the fridge for so far?

I mean yes, the hcl is still needed if you dont use lye. Be very careful to NOT use too much hcl. Although an a/b IS the way to go.

[This message has been edited by poopeen (edited 07-10-2003).]

i screwed that one up last nite took it out of fridge to early it turned into browngoo

i have some psu left so im s tarting again

can i do a/b by watching it fiz no ph tester

also do u know if sodium carbonat can replace the lye

hey i jus don't know man you can't substitute anything for lye besides pottasium hydroxide.... and im familiar with the method your talkin about but i can't seem to find the pottasium permagande r watever where can i get some i went to a pharmacy they told me its a chemical basically a precurson by itself...man try lordmightys easy way to make meth if you need the addy email me and ill give it to you it makes a class meth that is similar to glass and u can change a few things and turn it into either mdma or pcp =) my email is suttleila@netzero.com and tell me where i can get that pottasium perm thanx man =)

quote:Originally posted by i just dont know:

i screwed that one up last nite took it out of fridge to early it turned into browngoo

i have some psu left so im s tarting again

can i do a/b by watching it fiz no ph tester

also do u know if sodium carbonate can replace the lye

A/B is not watching it fizz. a/b means acid base. that is when you add a base(lye) the drug mix, turning your drug(pseudo/cat/meth or whatever) into the freebase form. the freebase is not soluble in water. you add some NP(non-polar) solvent, because the freebase IS soluble in it. then you shake it up. The freebase goes into the NP solvent, leaving the water soluble impurities behind.

You then suck up the NP solvent layer(top layer) and put it into a jar. Add water with a wee bit of HCL acid in it. When you shake that up, the acid causes the freebase to change into hidrocloride. The hidrocloride is NOT soluble in the NP solvent, but in water, so it leaves the NP solvent and goes into the water. The water is then sucked up and evaporated. Evaporated by heating it a wee bit, leaving you with nice clean crystals.

You can do that to the goo that you got. I at first tried without an a/b and got goo also. Trust me, it is worth waiting to get the stuff for an A/B rather than going without. Really. Im not sure about sodium carbonate. I would just wait till i could get lye(no i wouldnt). Do the a/b. Its worth it. May i ask how much you are trying to make? Just curious.

quote:Originally posted by suttleila:

man try lordmightys easy way to make meth if you need the addy email me and ill give it to you it makes a class meth that is similar to glass and u can change a few things and turn it into either mdma or pcp =) my email is suttleila@netzero.com and tell me where i can get that pottasium perm thanx man =)

That is bullshit!!! DO NOT TRY THE LORDMOGHTY RECIPE!!!!! YOUL BLOW YOURSELF THE FUCK UP!!!!! IT WILL NOT WORK!!!EAT SHIT AND DIE LORDMIGHTY!!!!!!

im gonna give this a rest til i get al the stuf wish i was bac at scool. i only work with 1 or 2 boxes of sudafed at a time

would this tech work with a large amount

so the amounts of lye/hcl can just be guesed

[This message has been edited by i just dont know (edited 07-17-2003).]