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Old 2003-07-08, 06:21
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Default how do i turn ammounia sulfate into nh4

how do i turn ammounia sulfate fertilizer in otherwords 20-00 into ammounia nitrate fertilizer which is 33-00 or 34-00 plz help me cause i was told that sulfate is toxic and will kill.... i appreciate any advice on the subject matter =)
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Old 2003-07-08, 14:14
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well looky here.... lordallmighty is back. I didnt think you would ever show your face around here again. lol. that was pretty interesting before when you wanted ppl to believe your fucked up synths so you created another name (sutt) and had little arguments with yourself but mostly used that name to agree with yourself and try to make it look like your synth could possibly work. that was cute. you better watch yourself punk cause i dont play that bullshit.
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Old 2003-07-09, 00:38
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Default Re: how do i turn ammounia sulfate into nh4

Monograph Number: 559

Title: Ammonium Sulfate

CAS Registry Number: 7783-20-2

CAS Name: Sulfuric acid diammonium salt

Additional Names: mascagnite

Molecular Formula: H8N2O4S

Molecular Weight: 132.14.

Percent Composition: H 6.10%, N 21.20%, O 48.43%, S 24.27%

Line Formula: (NH4)2SO4

Literature References: The "pure" grade of commerce contains at least 99% (NH4)2SO4. Prepn: Gmelin's, Ammonium (8th ed.) 23, 261-280 (1936). Manuf: Faith, Keyes & Clark's Industrial Chemicals, F. A. Lowenheim, M. K. Moran, Eds. (Wiley-Interscience, New York, 4th ed., 1975) pp 103-108. Review: Call, "Ammonium Sulfate" in Mellor's Vol. VIII, Supplement I, Nitrogen (part 1) 473-505 (1964). Solubility studies: A. C. D. Rivett, J. Chem. Soc. 121, 379 (1922); R. M. Caven, T. C. Mitchell, ibid. 125, 1428 (1924).

Properties: Odorless, orthorhombic crystals or white granules. d 1.77. Dec above 280°. Soly in water (g (NH4)2SO4 per 100 g of satd soln): 41.22 (0°); 43.47 (25°); 50.42 (100°) (Rivett). Soly in water (g/100 g H2O): 70.6 (0°); 76.7 (25°); 103.8 (100°) (Caven, Mitchell). Insol in alcohol, acetone. pH of 0.1 molar aq soln 5.5.

Density: d 1.77

Use: Manuf ammonia alum; in the manuf of H2SO4 to free it from nitrogen oxides; analytical uses; freezing mixtures, flameproofing fabrics and paper; manuf viscose silk; tanning, galvanizing iron; in fractionation of proteins. The commercial grade is used as fertilizer.

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Monograph Number: 538

Title: Ammonium Nitrate

CAS Registry Number: 6484-52-2

Molecular Formula: H4N2O3

Molecular Weight: 80.04.

Percent Composition: H 5.04%, N 35.00%, O 59.97%

Line Formula: NH4NO3

Literature References: Manuf: Faith, Keyes & Clark's Industrial Chemicals, F. A. Lowenheim, M. K. Moran, Eds. (Wiley-Interscience, New York, 4th ed., 1975) pp 97-102. Comprehensive description of manuf processes and physical data: B. T. Federoff et al., Encyclopedia of Explosives and Related Items, vol. I (Picatinny Arsenal, Dover, N.J., 1960) pp A311-A379. Review: Thatcher, "Ammonium Nitrate" in Mellor's vol. VIII, supplement I, Nitrogen (part 1) 506-562 (1964).

Properties: Odorless, transparent, hygroscopic, deliquesc crystals or white granules. Five solid phases exist at normal pressure. Orthorhombic at room temp. d 1.72. Dec at about 210°, mostly into H2O and N2O. One gram dissolves in 0.5 ml water, 0.1 ml boil. water, about 20 ml alc, about 8 ml methanol, pH of 0.1M soln in water: 5.43. Keep well closed.

Density: d 1.72

NOTE: Disastrous explosions ascribed to ammonium nitrate occurred in 1947 at Texas City and at Brest.

Use: Making nitrous oxide (laughing gas); in freezing mixtures, safety explosives, matches; pyrotechnics; in fertilizers.

Therap-Cat-Vet: Has been used as an expectorant, urinary acidifier.

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Old 2003-07-09, 05:06
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dude you can buy a. nitrate at most . feed and seed stores. also if yall did not know . here is a tip for you those cold packs in first aid kits you can buy them a wally world you just brake them and thay get cold. thay are a. nitrate with a water capsule. but some i know use a. sulphate
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Old 2003-07-09, 06:22
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1st off acidmelt i am not lordmight i am friends with him however and i am aware of his snthesis because i helped him perfect it =) and pikk i am aware that nh4 can be bought and most hardware stores r seed shops...when i use to live in Ms i could go and get 34-00 for 10 dollars a 50lb bag but now i live in pa where they only sell ammounia sulfate fertilizer and pure nitrogen 44-00 fert in otherwords i want to change the sulfate into nitrate or at least make annie out of it... i know that nh4 with sodium hydroxide and water plus dry ice makes nh3 i am trying to basically get the highest yield and best product soo if you could plz tell me how i could add ammounia molecule or something to the 44-00 cause that would be my best source =) thanx
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Old 2003-07-09, 13:23
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lol, dude you forget Im a moderator here. I can see everyones IP address, so dont try pulling any shit saying your not lordallmighty because I have proof that you are.
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Old 2003-07-10, 03:25
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dude you can make annie out of sulfate.

as for the 44-00 i will see what i can find

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Old 2003-07-10, 22:57
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we don't have the same ip and we are different people acidmelt...man your dumb as fuk lol my name is josh his is jason u stupid mofo....we are roomates and our ip's aren't the same if so prove it cause we both goto the same college iatd in pittsburgh and we are on a t3 soo how are our ips the same right now im on a 56k at my townhouse tho =) your makin yourself look dumb
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Old 2003-07-10, 23:46
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I said "fuck you" elsewhere but ill say it here too. FUCK YOU! Ahh. I feel better now, see ya.
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Old 2003-07-11, 17:41
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lol, no problem then, I have it right here in front of me. you really want me to prove it in front of everyone on the board or not? cause i have no problems posting both your IPs (even thought they are the same) to prove this once and for all.
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Old 2003-07-11, 18:17
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now that I think of it, everyone here knows this all ready, but if you still say its not I will email you the IP that you are posting from. this topic is now closed.
 
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