can somebody give me a link to instructions on how to extract red phosphorous? Something written in laymans terms would be preferred. Thanks.

lab tips, young grasshoppah...

and don´t ask for laymen´s terms...

it will pay (in the long and short run) to educate yourself as much as possible.

What do we look like, your personal assistant? Look it up yourself first, then if you still haven't found anything, then come back and ask again.

http://www.google.com

BTW, if you expect everyone to just stop what they're doing and go out and find you a link to what you're looking for, your sadly mistaken. Most people here get pissed when you ask for a link. You'll probably get some flames later, be warned.

And finally, this question would have a better chance of being answered over at Lab Tips.

[This message has been edited by panthrax (edited 07-04-2003).]

I know it's good to be educated, and I'm not just trying to do this while learning the least amount possible. But I can't really just dive in to advanced chemistry 101 without having things explained to me a little better, know what I mean?

quote:Originally posted by Dustbuster:

I know it's good to be educated, and I'm not just trying to do this while learning the least amount possible. But I can't really just dive in to advanced chemistry 101 without having things explained to me a little better, know what I mean?

Dude, when you're trying to extract red phosphorous, you are diving into Chemistry 101. I assume you are trying to manufacture Methamphetamine, correct? Well, it isn't going to be like that volcano model you made back in 4th grade where you mixed the baking soda with vineger. It is going to be very complex. There is no "easy way" of doing it.

quote:But I can't really just dive in to advanced chemistry 101 without having things explained to me a little better, know what I mean? i´d wait ´til you´ve had a couple of chem classes...

or read (and read and read and read and...) and/or apprentice (if possible...)...

panthrax gave a taste of what lab tips is possible of dishing out...

Panthrax needs to fucking relax. You chemistry snobs are really starting to piss me off. If you don't want to answer my question, than don't; but don't post a fucking reply, either. I'm sorry if my question offended your divine intelect, you fucking pole smoker.

^^^^ Lol

Seriously, though,dumb rednecks and bikers are manufacturing meth all over the place. These people don't know a damn thing about chemistry, they just know how to make meth. It is possible to learn HOW to do something, without having to learn WHY it works.

You people should be more eager to share the secrets behind it, and try to help as many people like me as you can.

But, that's just my opinion.

just think of it like this: even if they are flaming you, you're getting a bump out of it so that maybe somebody will help you. it's not likely with such a dumbass, overly-asked question but it could happen.

Lab Tips.

Wow, they sure gave you a hard time there dust...but lemme tell you, they aren't too much diffrent over here in lab tips. I'll be a kind soul and give you a tip. Go to the top of this page and do a search. Type in "Rhodium", there you will find what you seek. If not do a search but type in "Red phosphorus", or "matchbooks". Ok?

If it's so easy any redneck or biker can do it, then why are you here asking how to do it? Shouldn't you just be able to figure it out on your own?

yes you are right bikers and redneck do do it . but it is uslly half ass meth . witch is why us chembee,s help folks bee all that thay can bee. hahah

quote:Originally posted by Dustbuster:

Seriously, though,dumb rednecks and bikers are manufacturing meth all over the place. These people don't know a damn thing about chemistry, they just know how to make meth. It is possible to learn HOW to do something, without having to learn WHY it works.

You people should be more eager to share the secrets behind it, and try to help as many people like me as you can.

But, that's just my opinion.

then go ask the dumb rednecks and bikers. that shit they make is fuckin junk for the most part. dont come here actin like we owe you shit cuz we dont. not knowin why it works is why there crap sucks. sure theres some meth there ... enuff to get arrested or a tweaked out numb fingertips erratic buzz that gos on for 3 or 4 days but that is not meth my friend. least not the version that it could be if the dumb fucks would eduacate themeselves... you included. and btw if its all over the place just go buy some.

quote:Originally posted by Wicked_Rain:

then go ask the dumb rednecks and bikers. that shit they make is fuckin junk for the most part. dont come here actin like we owe you shit cuz we dont. not knowin why it works is why there crap sucks. sure theres some meth there ... enuff to get arrested or a tweaked out numb fingertips erratic buzz that gos on for 3 or 4 days but that is not meth my friend. least not the version that it could be if the dumb fucks would eduacate themeselves... you included. and btw if its all over the place just go buy some.

Eat a dick up

Theres 15 posts for this topic, but no answer!? Ive seen much stupider questions answered, I also would like an answer to this. I always have to scrape 20 boxes of matches (1000 books). Very time consuming. As if thats not bad enough, it then goes all gummy. When filtering it I always get the feeling that im losing much meth in the lumps of gum. Well, im gonna go do a search.

[This message has been edited by poopeen (edited 07-07-2003).]

Poopeen, the RP that SWIP is using is NOT clean enough. It should be powdered, just like everything else.

Try some HCL soaks, and a whole lot more acetone decanting. Soak and decant. Soak and Decant. Make sure to shake it up and smash up the gummy balls of RP before decanting.

quote:Originally posted by poopeen:

Theres 15 posts for this topic, but no answer!? Ive seen much stupider questions answered, I also would like an answer to this. I always have to scrape 20 boxes of matches (1000 books). Very time consuming. As if thats not bad enough, it then goes all gummy. When filtering it I always get the feeling that im losing much meth in the lumps of gum. Well, im gonna go do a search.

[This message has been edited by poopeen (edited 07-07-2003).]



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theres also 15 other threads with this same question already fuckin answered and if you will notice none of them were asked with the attitude this person has. SWIM knows the answer to his question and he hasnt spent 10 minutes in a chemistry class. now to address your question. by scraping, does that mean you are scraping each and every strike pad? if so then you are doing it the hard way. heres what SWIM`s friend in the big city does.

take your 1000 matchbooks and remove the matches by opening the book and ripping out the matches and throwing them into a large box or bag or whatever. that will leave you with just the complete cover in your hand. you will get fast and efficiant at this with practise. be carefull during this stage, you dont want several hundred ripped out matches catching fire. dont have more than one book in your hand at a time. SWIM`s friend grabs ONE book flips it open holds it in left hand rips matches out, throws em in container next to him. he has seen people rip out matches drop em in there lap etc. and have 4 or 5 empty covers in left hand (which still contains the striker remember) and then next thing you know a book being ripped out accedently catches one of the strikers in left hand and WOOSH. if they are stacked in your lap you can imagine how bad it is. so one at a time only and dont stack em in your lap. when you are done you will have 1000 strike covers stacked on there sides minus the matches in the lil cardboard boxes the match books originly came in. 1000 usually fits in 2 of the boxes. next take your good sharp scissors med. size. (fiskars seem to be best in quality)now take ONE at a time and cut the short side off. SWIM`s friend grabs one cover in left hand holding in a way that theres 2 inchs or so of cover then the strike pad then a short inch or so of cover (the end where the staple was holding in matches) towards his right hand. cut off the short end right exactly on the line you dont want none of the paint/ink from the cover design with your strike pad. next cut it above the strike pad again exactly on the line. when you cut the strike pad off let it fall into a container by itself (SWIM`s friend uses one of the cardboard boxes that originly held 50 books) sure when you cut them you can cut 3 or 4 at a time but i will take the time to explain why you shoudnt. if you cut more than one at a time the others will move slightly underneath the top one and you will end up with part of the RP cut off on the bottom and part of the paint/ink left on the top of the pads the more you try and cut at once the more pronounced this effect will become towards the last one in the stack. try a few and you will see or better yet do it as SWIM is tellin you since he took the time to type all this shit out in about as laymens terms as he can lay it. like i said above with practise you will become very fast at this SWIM`s friend can do 1000 books in about 3 hours. now at this point you should have 1000 strike pads in front of you. SWIM`s friend in the big city now takes them and dumps them in a colander (one of those things you drain spaghetti in) bounce them around in there letting all the little pieces of paper cuttings and the little cardboard pellet looking things from where the staple went thru to hold the matchs in originly. you will see when they quit falling out of colander. now its time for the acetone soak:

PART 2:

if you are only doing a 1000 books take a quart jar the kind that the mouth is the same diameter as the jar. (skippys peanut butter jars work great)...(the necked down mouths work but its a little harder to get out your strike pads when they are done being soaked)put the pads in the jar fill with acetone to about 3 inchs above the pads. (( many say use dry tone (anhydrous) but SWIM`s friened thinks its a waste of dry tone since at the end the RP will be washed in DH2O (distilled water)anyways)) put the lid on shake the hell out of them after they have soaked an hour or so. let it settle for 30 min or so. now look at em you will see a layer of red powder goop on bottom of jar your pile of strike pads with blotchy patchs of RP left on them, and the tone will be maroon in color. take a clear piece of aquarium tubing put one end in the jar to a depth about 1/4 inch above the powder layer. siphon it off into a waste container dont bother filtering it cuz the stuff that is suspended in it isnt RP. its glue and shit. maybe a lil RP but not worth hassling with. refill with fresh tone and repeat. twice usually does it 3 times for sure.on the last time (when you see no more RP on pads)dont siphon off tone yet. SWIM`s friend uses stainless steel serving tongs to grab a small heap of pads swish them gently around in tone (making sure no clumps of RP are stuck in them) then remove them. repeat this untill all the strike pads you can see are removed. add a little bit more fresh tone and shake the shit up good let it set for a short. now you should have before you a one quart jar with a 1/4 inch or so of reddish/brownish goop/powder on the bottom and 2 to 4 inchs of medium to dark maroon tone. you will notice that no matter how long it sets the tone will not lighten up and still look as if it has some RP suspended in it. if it does its miniscule and not worth fuckin with. siphon the tone off into waste can again. pour a cup or so of warm DH2O into jar shake like hell let settle a few min. siphon it off and repeat four or five times. after that SWIM`s friend in the big city scoops it out with a plastic spoon into a small glass bowl and sets it on top of his monitor in the back where the lil holes are that vent the heat of the monitor. its usually dry in a couple hours. SWIM`s friend usually yeilds 7 to 10 grams (per 1000 books) of super clean RP this way. as its drying you should grab the bowl every once in awhile and gently mash up the large lumps as they are easier to mash up when its damp than when its bone dry. when hes done its all usually the size of pinheads and smaller. this may seem like a long difficult way to do it but trust me its not. the more you do it the faster you will get. typing all this seems more of a pain in the ass to SWIM than doin the matches lol... if you are gonna do more than a 1000 books do it in more jars or get a gallon jar no big deal. now SWIM hopes you two are happy and this was written in simple enough step by step laymans terms for you cuz its simple as SWIM can make it. SWIM would also suggest copying and savin this on your comp. so next time you see it asked you can copy it to the thread cuz SWIM wont do this again.good luck

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Thanx Wicked,

The only reason I was giving attitude was because I was frustrated. I asked a simple question,and people freak out. If they didn't want to answer it they didn't have to,but they don't need to go off on me either. Honestly, I'm sorry if I offended you people with my question, and no, I don't spend a great deal of time researching topics before I ask questions, mostly because I'm at work, and I don't really have hours to spend researching the topic.

An aside: I don't plan on going home and trying to do this in my kitchen. I know it's hard, I know it takes a lot of chem knowledge;I ask my questions more out of curiosity than anything. Again, I'm sorry if I have offended anybody.

quote:Originally posted by Dustbuster:

Thanx Wicked,

The only reason I was giving attitude was because I was frustrated. I asked a simple question,and people freak out. If they didn't want to answer it they didn't have to,but they don't need to go off on me either. Honestly, I'm sorry if I offended you people with my question, and no, I don't spend a great deal of time researching topics before I ask questions, mostly because I'm at work, and I don't really have hours to spend researching the topic.

An aside: I don't plan on going home and trying to do this in my kitchen. I know it's hard, I know it takes a lot of chem knowledge;I ask my questions more out of curiosity than anything. Again, I'm sorry if I have offended anybody.

its all good man. researching the past threads is usually easier cuz every question one could ask has usually been asked dozens of times b4, and you dont have to wait for an answer.

wicked, you should have SWIW post that on totse's speedy drugs page. or rhodium, or other good site, so it can be found easily.

SWIM dont know how to go about doin that vegas and he dont care if he gets recognition, after all its not his method just the way that was passed down to him from a master of the game. if you know how to get this posted in the fashion you were speaking of feel free to do so. just copy and paste it and claim it as your own or however works for you i dont mind.

All you guys need to quit our bitching here and forego the egos and just cut to the chase man......

For one thing, phosphoric acid is a viable and suitable substitute as is orthophosphoric acid as well.

Both legal in the U.S.A. and cheap as fuck.

Those who know......know this is more and more a preferred way to go---------->!

Using a 1:1:1 ratio and a much faster rate of reducing your pseudo to meth what more can a man ask for?!

But this is just one aspect to the slolution here.

You do your own thing gentlemen.

But work smarter not hardr right?!

Si comprende' amigos?!

quote:Originally posted by Jamiroquai:

All you guys need to quit our bitching here and forego the egos and just cut to the chase man......

For one thing, phosphoric acid is a viable and suitable substitute as is orthophosphoric acid as well.

Both legal in the U.S.A. and cheap as fuck.

Those who know......know this is more and more a preferred way to go---------->!

Using a 1:1:1 ratio and a much faster rate of reducing your pseudo to meth what more can a man ask for?!

But this is just one aspect to the slolution here.

You do your own thing gentlemen.

But work smarter not hardr right?!

Si comprende' amigos?!

wrong thread or am i missing something? lol