I bought about 1/2 pd. of the Ma Haung plant but how do I get it into liquid or powder form. I tried boiling then filtering it but it smells and tastes like tea. I used to use the vicks inhaler method to make meth but...could I possibly sub inhalers for Ma Haung liquid in the 1st step to remove unwanted oils and smells???? help

Just buy/acquire/shoplift some pseudo, it's a lot easier.

You need to do A LOT of research before you start buying stuff. Post some theoretical procedures here and I'm sure SwiGotta or somebody would be happy to help. Personally, I've learned a ton by lurking around chemhead.org and lab tips on and off for the past year. Only recently and after careful preparation did Swik finally get some clean product...

Patience and persistence are by far the most important ingredients

Vicks has the wrong stuff in it. It won't make meth. The plant material. Maybe grind it up in a blender add alcohol heat it up drain it off evap add water base into np extract freebase blah, blah, blah.

100 grams of ephedra only has about 3 grams of alkaloids in it. It would be easier and cheaper to extract pseudoephedrine from cold meds. Now let's see here. If one had a half Lb of ephedrqa herb. One might be abvle to get about 6 grams of ephedrines out of it. 6 24pks of Actifed, 12 24paks of seudafed, or 6 8oz bottles of PE or CF syrup could get one >6 gms of pseudo'.

Unless one could get ephedra herb for very, very cheap, it would not be worth A/B'n the ephedra extract for the alkaloids.

[This message has been edited by DrY.R.Head (edited 07-03-2003).]

Yep. Didn't think about the yield. Those are mixed alkaloids too. Pills work good. Don't steal them though. We have enough problems already.

Wirehead--

How about the scoop on red syrups. Can it just be based into the np the way it is?

Please dont steal your pills you just make it harder and more expensive for the rest of us.i can see in the future a box of 96 30`s goin for 15 dollars a box available behind the pharmacy counter only.

Pseudo always worked great for SWIL. Extracting from pills will give one some basic, practical experience.

Learning to clean the psuedo aquired from pills will teach one patience and dedication, but most importantly excellence. A certain pride is felt after all the hours of work cleaning, pays in pristine needles of pseudo.

The quality of one's pseudo is a direct reflection of the quality of the final product they will attain from it.

Lukky D

very nicely said. I also would agree with using the cold meds. and just like what everyone else said... dont steal them.

quote:Originally posted by DrY.R.Head:

100 grams of ephedra only has about 3 grams of alkaloids in it. It would be easier and cheaper to extract pseudoephedrine from cold meds. Now let's see here. If one had a half Lb of ephedrqa herb. One might be abvle to get about 6 grams of ephedrines out of it. 6 24pks of Actifed, 12 24paks of seudafed, or 6 8oz bottles of PE or CF syrup could get one >6 gms of pseudo'.

Unless one could get ephedra herb for very, very cheap, it would not be worth A/B'n the ephedra extract for the alkaloids.

[This message has been edited by DrY.R.Head (edited 07-03-2003).]

yes but it can go up to 10% yes it is mixed alkaloids but all i know is a little psudo i have some 8%so that about 100grms per 3lbs let me know if u want some to try glwomer@yaoo.com

for a good ephedrine hci all u need to do is first base it

w/lye then distill no copper it then base what is left then

do a pull with colemen or other solvent then bubble u will get anywere from 3% to 10% ask befor u buy your ma hung

try www.ephedra.demon.nl (http://www.ephedra.demon.nl) i seem to remember it had extraction precedures for ephedra

Man you guys are sayin' don't steal the pilld but--- SERIOSLY--- If I buy anything then I'm only setting myself up for a down fall. If I buy them then I'm putting myself in TH MAN'S eye. If I steal them then I'm staying out of the way. Know What I'm sayin'? I se yor point.... but.... gotta not get caught!!!!!!....... wHO agree's???????

not i--the money to be made in this industry is staggering---either employ a couple of straight looking people to travel and buy for you (1 pk at a time)--or just spend the time to do it yourself---stealing is illegal remember

Let us can be used DMT Process "http://www.spiritplants.com/articles/DMT.htm " for extract ephedrine alkaloids ?